The blush application is terrible. I’ve never seen a professional makeup artist put it ALL over the cheeks.
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I hope I can express what I mean properly when I say this, but… I totally get this opinion and I agree that people are distracted by many frivolous things in the news cycle. On the other hand, I do think when famous figures are caught out in toxic behaviour, it can be instructive to unpack it, because some of the dynamics at play are the same ones that exist in many, many regular relationships and contribute to women experiencing financial and other abuse, homelessness, etc. I’m not saying Clementine’s approach is right or that the Jonah Hill story is necessarily due the media storm around it, but I don’t think it should be totally discounted.
I see your point but would add that celebrities are human, and they don’t deserve to be cancelled over a small slice of their life without context for the greater good.
Yeah, for sure. I’m not arguing for anyone to be cancelled, just saying that I don’t think these sorts of issues are necessarily irrelevant. I personally do feel that the Jonah Hill texts speak for themselves in that they represent problematic behaviour and ideas, but other than having seen the texts, I know nothing about him, so I haven’t formed an overall judgement about him as a person.
I think this photoshoot was a huge miss for most of the ladies involved. I’m just not into the 80s glamour shoot vibes.
I haven’t seen her old face in a long time. She’s naturally very pretty. Men are assholes 🫠
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ETA: not that anyone’s worth is measured on appearance, just that the article referenced men attacking her for her looks. What hope do any of us have
She absolutely nailed it.Her arguments for why it was crap were pretty compelling: taking the moment that she had earned and making it about him, putting her in a position where it would have been hard to say no, inserting himself into other people’s special day. I don’t agree with a lot of what she says (I’m a dreaded terf) but I think she nailed it with this take.
I’d dump my guy if he ever had the audacity.
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Have you seen April wearing this tit?!
I see you’ve been reading house in habits Insta stories
Read them about a week ago but also did my own thinking
I’m in my 40’s with my own life experiences and relationships mistakes behind me.However I’ve been living under a rock as I wasn’t aware of Clem bullying other women writers or stealing their work. Those stories about her “stalker” were quickly taken down.
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I agree but people these days do these things for attention to go viral, likes, shares and online articles. Unsure why he had to hijack the graduation and not think of any other way to propose
.I know it's irrelevant what I think of another womans appearance but I always thought Clementine was attractive as well. I never understood why so many men made fun of her.I think this photoshoot was a huge miss for most of the ladies involved. I’m just not into the 80s glamour shoot vibes.
I haven’t seen her old face in a long time. She’s naturally very pretty. Men are assholes 🫠
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ETA: not that anyone’s worth is measured on appearance, just that the article referenced men attacking her for her looks. What hope do any of us have
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The photoshoot is over done and complexions have been touched up so much to make them look flawless and perfect which doesn't feel right to me.
I lean more to this side than any other when these momentary shitstorms erupt in the media. They're generally sensationalised, generally capitalising on #MeToo, generally more about the publications appearing woke than meaningful discourse or education. And actually just perpetuating this dumb notion that celebrities are more important than the rest of us. Jonah Hill is Jewish; for all we know he's deeply conservative and genuinely has those sorts of "boundaries" in relationships. That doesn't make them right, according to my moral code, but my moral code isn't universal, and the dude is American.
Regardless, it's all presented without context, with a clear agenda, and at the end of the day I don't really understand who cares? Why is the media putting him on trial? For brownie points? With who exactly? I just looked up some articles (I'd had none served, I give that little of a tit about this tabloid "news" the algorithm doesn't even bother) and she went public to "help with her healing"? Sorry, what? How does inviting this huge amount of attention help you heal? Isn't that what friends, time, and therapy are for? Going public can really only be an act of malice against him, right? Is that the part that helps her heal? Hurting him?
V confused. V confused why people concern themselves with the nonsensical private interactions of rich people sitting somewhere on the spectrum of fame rather than ... literally anything of actual worth.
You had me until here. I can’t respect TERFs as members of the human race. Gross.
Nailed it. A whole lot of garbage that yeah, i would expect to receive such screenshots from a close friend, and perhaps I’d entertain them but more generally I’d say block them babe and move on. Trotting them out for a papshow was so very meh and yet also, unsurprising in this day and age. Anywho,
I understand Clem makes a living out of commenting on trending topics, but this entirely bored me and I skipped over every single story / post she made about it.
A huge cop out for clem to say she only work done to stop men from going after her about her looks, a true feminist would realise that men will ALWAYS say something about the way we look because they can not help themselves! It’s their go to when it comes to attacking women who stand up to them! Just admit you wanted the work done clem. I think those shots of her in that campaign are horrible, it’s giving vibes from those glamour shots people you’d see in the malls selling the photo packages where the hair and makeup is so ridiculously overdone.
She has talked a lot about her looks in the years that I have followed her. And acknowledged that a lot of the things she's done is to try and minimise the ways that men can attack her. She's also spoken about how she gets the work done for her because she's learned to love herself and its not for men but for her.
She is open about the work she has done, which is far cry from most influencers so I have to give her credit for that.
I don't love the photoshoot at all. And her looks have changed considerably in the last few years there is no denying that. But she has had so many horrible things said about her looks, I can understand her becoming self conscious about it.
She is open about the work she has done, which is far cry from most influencers so I have to give her credit for that.
I do think that statement is a bit problematic - we are all well aware that men are gross and act very entitled to opinions on women's looks, among other things.. Calling it out at least addresses their crappy behaviour and says that its not ok. Men should try a lot harder to be better humans in general.
I don't love the photoshoot at all. And her looks have changed considerably in the last few years there is no denying that. But she has had so many horrible things said about her looks, I can understand her becoming self conscious about it.
Sorry I worded my response in a rush! Men absolutely need to STFU when it comes to women’s look and to do better and be better and just stop commenting on our looks period! But it won’t ever happen, they know it’s one of the few ways they can cut us deep!
IMHO Clem has always had a pretty face. It’s a shame that men’s toxic comments have affected her deeply enough for her to have a lot of work done. At least she’s open about it and it’s not a crazy amount of work of course and I would get Botox to smooth out some lines and get skin treatments if I could afford to keep going. Except her lips are starting to look really weird and overdone. I honestly find it so strange when people with naturally big lips go on to add filler to them like she has done.
I’ve been waiting for a Clem thread - long post ahead sorry! I’m super torn about her - I enjoy her arguments but totally agree that she ignores nuance. I find her frustratingly condescending, as if us poor little women (whom she hasn’t deemed worthy of her feminist crown) need her to guide us. She talks down to her audience, with an approach that ignores our own autonomy, circumstances and ability to assess our own situations. It ironically reminds me of the approach that conspiracy nut jobs take, that smug “well you wouldn’t understand, you are simply blind to x and y” - as if those of us that dare to disagree with her lack critical thinking skills. I think it would be exhausting being her friend with her holier than thou approach - the whole time you’d be nervous that she might publish a public call-out or throw you under the bus.
My partner and I are educated from top universities. Shockingly, he is receptive (and has initiated discussions about) to discussions regarding the mental load, weaponised incompetence and domestic inequality - concepts that she did not invent, but seems to think she is the spokesperson for. Marriage is something we have discussed and are excited for (and no, de facto does not provide identical privileges). We complement each other, respect and love each other in a way that is different (but not less than) than that provided in a platonic friendship. Yes, I am sure my partner is a rare find but he is the nuance, the grey and genuinely improves my life - something she seems to think doesn’t exist or, more frustratingly, that he (and my beliefs about him) are a mirage, and I’m too stupid to realise that. That I need her, in her top feminist of feminism glory to show silly little me the truth - or rather her version of the truth. Honestly, sometimes I find her exhausting.
My partner and I are educated from top universities. Shockingly, he is receptive (and has initiated discussions about) to discussions regarding the mental load, weaponised incompetence and domestic inequality - concepts that she did not invent, but seems to think she is the spokesperson for. Marriage is something we have discussed and are excited for (and no, de facto does not provide identical privileges). We complement each other, respect and love each other in a way that is different (but not less than) than that provided in a platonic friendship. Yes, I am sure my partner is a rare find but he is the nuance, the grey and genuinely improves my life - something she seems to think doesn’t exist or, more frustratingly, that he (and my beliefs about him) are a mirage, and I’m too stupid to realise that. That I need her, in her top feminist of feminism glory to show silly little me the truth - or rather her version of the truth. Honestly, sometimes I find her exhausting.
Yaaawn.
Great post. What is weaponised incompetence?
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