Clementine Ford

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Antonella's article is pretty bad - it's obvious she doesn't like Clementine so the review is going to be bad regardless. It unclear if she has even read the book. She holds very misogynistic views and is clearly transphobic AND she's written a book about "the feminine" 🤮 I don't love everything about Clementine but I think I like Antonella even less.

She just seems so childish too, the way she talks about why she accepted her partners proposal, and the way she tried to play everyone and say the article wasn't being published just to see the reaction. Like grow up - if you believe in what you've written and stand by it, why the need for all the extra publicity?


I'm unsure what the relevance to her father has though. We aren't responsible for our parents choices and we often grow up having wildly different perspectives on life to our parents. The one nation bit is a cheap shot imo. Clem has also talked about her father and how she calls him out and that she disagrees with a lot of his ideals. The fact that she can't influence her own father/family is a perfect example of how patriarchy and racism can thrive in our world.

My aunty is wildly religious and her son (my cousin) had to use IVF and it caused all kinds of friction in their family. He is not responsible for her very misguided ideals about conception and science vs religion.

Clem was sued for defamation by Carl Soda I think - she was cleared of everything. Clementine is smart in how she does things, I think she is smart enough to work just within the law even if she employs some horrible tactics. I will be interested to see how this latest defamation case goes
Defamation cases are notoriously difficult to win though, generally I mean.
 
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Nice ageism from Clem. I guess “mullet Barbie” stung her.

I’ve read one of Gambotto’s books a long time ago - a collection of her journalism. I wouldn’t call her a conservative exactly, more a contrarian, but she is very, very acid-tongued and a much better writer than Clementine.
 

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I'm unsure what the relevance to her father has though. We aren't responsible for our parents choices and we often grow up having wildly different perspectives on life to our parents. The one nation bit is a cheap shot imo. Clem has also talked about her father and how she calls him out and that she disagrees with a lot of his ideals. The fact that she can't influence her own father/family is a perfect example of how patriarchy and racism can thrive in our world.
Oh I actually agree with you - you can't choose your family and Clem's made her thoughts on her father very clear. I was more admiring the neatly wrapped package of an insult that Gambotta Burke came up with.
 
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I’m with clem on this one. Antonella whoever is a lunatic, as proven by that article.
 
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"A representative from the Australian Men’s Rights Agency told me: “With our existing discrimination laws I would have thought there is an argument to challenge ... Ford’s behaviour, but the difficulty is in finding a solicitor brave enough to take on the feminists.”

f*cking LOL
 
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I had never heard of Antonella prior to this, but she comes across as quite cuckoo. Her articles aren’t very well written and seem to really miss the point? I think a well written critique of Clementine would have its place, but these articles certainly aren’t that.
 
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That Clammy page has made one good point. Clem and Lauren don’t want peace, they want attention. If there was peace what would they do all day? They wouldn’t be able to be rant into their phones and fight with strangers and feel like they are part of a struggle that doesn’t effect them. While they’re receiving mean dms they can pretend to be oppressed and not like two extremely privileged white women living in a safe country. Sorry Lauren’s not “white” she started claiming her indigenous heritage post the 2020 BLM movement after she was accused of being racist agains Moaris.
This is a really foul post and deserves to be challenged. Questioning someone’s racial background is something racists do.
I don’t like how Clem has behaved recently but largely she’s correct when it comes to her politics, she’s abrasive and inappropriate and has way over fixated on this issue, but she’s also not wrong.

if it comes down to team clem vs team Antonella and clammy lady I’m with Clem not the nutcase right wingers.
 
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Lauren has posted anti-Semitic theories often since October 7th. She seems to think saying “Zionist” instead of “Jew” is some Get Out Jail Free card but it isn’t. When she’s insinuating that Frank Lowy controls the Australian government because “Zionist”, she’s peddling anti-Semitic theories about Jews controlling the world. It is nonsense.

Clementine - for all that she’s a self-aggrandising, attention-seeking clown who hates any woman who disagrees with her - has been a lot more careful. I give her credit for that but it’s gross that she doxxes women and deliberately riles up her audience who go on to harass and abuse women online. If you’re sending images of dead babies to Jewish women in Australia because you and Clem hate their political views, you’re not a good person. It doesn’t mean you care more about Palestinians, it means you’ve lost your damn mind.

The other one in that article - Constance Hall - isn’t even worth bothering with. She’s just a mess.

God, to have the confidence of a white lady influencer opining on the most complex geopolitical issue of our times. If only.
 
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Lauren has posted anti-Semitic theories often since October 7th. She seems to think saying “Zionist” instead of “Jew” is some Get Out Jail Free card but it isn’t. When she’s insinuating that Frank Lowy controls the Australian government because “Zionist”, she’s peddling anti-Semitic theories about Jews controlling the world. It is nonsense.
I don't want to derail the thread but I have thought the same thing about Lauren's constant reference to Zionists, she's not doing it nearly as neatly as Clem who prior to the Mama Mia shitstorm was at least not trying to name prominent Jewish Australians. I have many Jewish friends with family in Israel who don't support this war - the fact that they (and I!) don't believe they should be planning to leave Israel would make them Zionists in many peoples eyes, and apparently it's OK to openly hate people under this label now. It's terrifying.
 
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The timing of Clementines story about Jerry Seinfield is interesting considering he is Jewish.
I think that this behaviour from her is a compulsion. she is addicted to the backlash and it ensures she stays relevant and in the media. I think Clementine Ford could do with some intense therapy and she should really just go offline for a decent amount of time . we are going to look back at this period one day and think of the awful things happening to Palestinians and the many thousands of lives lost and our reflections will be marked by the memory of Clementines desperate attention seeking.
 
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Oh lord, the series funding announcement. Yes obviously fictional and meant to be humorous, but violence against perpetrating men is ze answer right …
 
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the tenacious woman comment is pathetic , no one is trying to keep you *down* Clementine, it's just that most sensible people can see through your motives ya moron.
 
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Poor Lauren whinging about being stuck in her house waiting for a package but at the same time wanting everyone else to focus on nothing else but the situation in Gaza because no one cares as much as she does.
 
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I don't want to derail the thread but I have thought the same thing about Lauren's constant reference to Zionists, she's not doing it nearly as neatly as Clem who prior to the Mama Mia shitstorm was at least not trying to name prominent Jewish Australians. I have many Jewish friends with family in Israel who don't support this war - the fact that they (and I!) don't believe they should be planning to leave Israel would make them Zionists in many peoples eyes, and apparently it's OK to openly hate people under this label now. It's terrifying.
Agree with all of this.
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Of course they are, Clem’s the real victim in all of this don’t you know!

I cringed so hard when Lauren shared the story of someone tagging her alongside all of the Gazan journalists. Lauren sharing posts from the comfort of her big weird house or posting antisemitic rants with her hair and make up done to perfection being tagged along with people actually living the horrors in Gaza makes me sick. I’m still wondering how many Afghans her husband killed while she makes herself the Australian face of fighting for Palenstine and against islamaphobia 🙄
I’ve been curious about the last part, too!
 
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