Jesus. That Amy girl is a friend of Florence so I’m not surprised she’s sticking up for her to be honest. Did laugh at ‘long throat’ thoughTwo ladies get to stepping on Twitter and the slumflower is not pleased. To note: She’s only accepting PayPal and fawning praise/support at the moment.
100% agree with this except for the hypergamy part - it’s fine to want to marry better etc though there’s no doubt that CE needs to be careful about how she addresses it on social media .... I mean saying she doesn’t care about men committing suicide (there was more to it of course I did read her statement at that time whilst I was a fan of hers) though some stuff I agreed with (in regards to the statement) I have to say (and I know this will come across as racist on paper given she’s a black woman and I’m associating these feelings with a black woman) but it’s just too aggressive for my liking, from the way shes dealt with all of this to these chats about male suicide and hypergamy are not for the world to know about and rather a chat with your girls in my honest opinion, and she needs to distinguish that line because her followers and strangers on the internet are NOT her friends & she has a brand to upkeep.I’ve just read this whole thread trying to understand what the hell is happening.
The whole thing has massively depressed me, to be honest. This is probably going to be controversial but I think fourth wave “feminism” is largely a joke, a bastardization of what intersectionality was supposed to reflect, and I honestly think that almost everything both Chidera and Florence seem to stand for plays directly into the hands of a capitalist patriarchy.
I’m actually shocked Chidera can happily claim she’s a feminist with her lessons in seeking out rich men. Mind boggling.
Overall, I can see how hugely unfair and hurtful it must have been for Chidera to be outsold by Florence. There’s no doubt that our society’s collective, often unconscious racism made Florence more palatable to young girls buying these baby lib fem books. However, I struggle to see where and why Florence is responsible for that herself. Don’t get me wrong, I can’t stand Florence, but until Chidera publicly releases the exact details of what she considers plagiarism in Florence’s book, then I think this is all a lot of hot air. She totally has a right to be angry and frustrated at our racist world, but is it right to scapegoat Florence Given for that specifically? I don’t think so.
I do actually feel for Florence, because my own personal reaction would be to go the legal route, too. I think most people would. And Chidera is right in saying that there is institutionalised racism within the legal system, but what’s the alternative? There is also institutional sexism, and ageism, and classism within our legal system... it’s not a perfect system but no perfect system exists, so are we never supposed to use it?
Anyway, somewhat hilariously, my grandmother was telling me (and every other female) that women don’t owe anyone pretty before these girls were born. I guess I better go Paypal Chidera asap.
Just a question as I cannot see it anywhere: has Chidera actually stated what type of plagiarism she feels Florence is guilty of? I am assuming direct plagiarism, which is the easiest to prove.
I am shocked Aja has liked that tweet from Stephanie, isnt she the woman who got fired for anti-semitic comments?Aja has liked this tweet from Stephanie Yeboah this evening. Although I don’t know for sure this is possibly about Chidera. No clue who the other woman is ( or if it’s referring to Chidera?).
I also found these tweets as well from someone else.
You’ll feature on her angry stories if your not carefulGonna get aired still x
If Stephanie’s tweet about bullying going unchecked is about Chidera, then... check it? Has anybody with that many followers (aside from Amy) actually “checked” it? Or just made vague subtweets / stories about it that don’t mention Chidera by name?Aja has liked this tweet from Stephanie Yeboah this evening. Although I don’t know for sure this is possibly about Chidera. No clue who the other woman is ( or if it’s referring to Chidera?).
I also found these tweets as well from someone else.
I find this statement to be classist. It’s almost saying that they working classes can’t be educated or wouldn’t be able to construct academic arguments. We have trade unions, lifelong learning and in some parts of the UK, a labour government committed to ensuring education for working class kids. There are enormous barriers for working class people in education, but there are amazing opportunities too.Aja has liked this tweet from Stephanie Yeboah this evening. Although I don’t know for sure this is possibly about Chidera. No clue who the other woman is ( or if it’s referring to Chidera?).
I also found these tweets as well from someone else.
I would also like if she’s saying things like this to me she should back it up with studies or it’s just a redundant statement. I know she’ll say she shouldn’t have to do the work for me, but if I make a statement about something I always back it up. Then people can go and do more reading/research if they want to, but I’ve proved I know what I’m talking about.yes totally agree that its an issue, a very big issue.
maybe i phrased it badly, i meant it cant be the biggest known cause because its impossible to quantify such a thing.
Exactly what I’m saying ... it’s TOO much. Such things are NOT for the public to see wtf is wrong with herI am so disgusted by this. Her sharing the idea that Florence would ‘intentionally hospitalise herself’ just to paint Chidera in a bad light. She’s fucking vile for sharing that notion on her platform and the person who sent her that message is an absolute moron. Even if you can’t stand Florence, that’s a horrible thing to suggest.
(Just to clarify I’m not commenting on the Clubhouse thing here - just the fact she would share this idiotic sentiment about mental health to her hundreds of thousands of followers)
that whole comment by Chidera in response just shows she has a painfully poor grasp of mental health and how conditions like depression anxiety etc manifest themselves.I am so disgusted by this. Her sharing the idea that Florence would ‘intentionally hospitalise herself’ just to paint Chidera in a bad light. She’s fucking vile for sharing that notion on her platform and the person who sent her that message is an absolute moron. Even if you can’t stand Florence, that’s a horrible thing to suggest.
(Just to clarify I’m not commenting on the Clubhouse thing here - just the fact she would share this idiotic sentiment about mental health to her hundreds of thousands of followers)
Idk if this is what is going on here, but I remember ages ago someone saying on twitter that "niceness" is a construct of white supremacy so I guess people see no reason to be nice to each other any more.I actually cannot believe that comment suggesting that if Florences mental health took a dive that it would be a deliberate act of manipulation and an 'act of violence'. What the fuck is wrong with people. What the fuck is going on here. Why the fuck can Chidera not see she should have shut this commenter down.
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