I know we all want someone nice for Carrie but I’ll say it: Joel is pretty much a perfect match for her. The attention seeking, the snappiness towards commenters, the oversharing….I don’t care if he’s only started doing this since he’s been with Carrie but it seems to come natural to him, so I’d say they are perfect for each other.
I looked at his very public Facebook page and oversharing is pretty standard for him! 1,000s and 1,000s of public photos and posts
I don't believe Joel is necessarily creepy, controlling, etc. and is rather just pretty annoying. I just don't think this level of emotional intensity is sustainable or healthy. Carrie was in a many year long relationship with Oliver and should be grieving the end of that and spending time with herself and putting her life back together. She's not doing any of those things.
My longest relationship was almost three years and after it ended I spent a full year grieving and going on one off dates and feeling lost and putting myself back together and briefly dating someone and ending that and changing jobs etc. And I still entered my current relationship with a fair few hang ups and things to still work through.
Her relationship with Joel is built on desperation to get back to being a member of a loved up, long term couple. I guarantee she slid into several people's DMs, he's just the one that stuck. Someone said in the last thread that rumor has it Panto was Carrie's backup plan if nothing else worked out for the fall/winter and isn't that really what Joel is too? A bid against emotional unemployment.
She is running away from whatever feelings she still has about Oliver and about their imagined future together.
I would say after things end with Joel all those repressed feelings will hit and she'll be grieving two relationships at once but let's be honest, she's probably going to marry Joel to avoid having to feel anything. Joel is not the love of her life, he is a stop gap against pain and I can't see their relationship being successful in the long term which is a pity because I think if she'd started dating him under different circumstances they'd be quite well suited for each other.
This is absolutely spot on
I disagree. He films her to the point where she feels uncomfortable and asks him to stop. He asked her to film multiple videos of them kissing, and she said she wasn't sure why he was doing it
It wouldn't surprise me if Joel filmed those kissing videos to have a wank to when he's back home. I bet he secretly filmed them having sex
I think we are taking her words far too literally here, she said she did not know which reel he was making not that she did not know why he was filming full stop. So she was quite aware he was 1. filming and 2. making a reel with the clips, my ex-partner would take posed photos and not tell me why until I saw the silly edited photo after (although unlike Joel he did not plaster them all over the net for 1,000s to see
). I do not think this is that abnormal or sinister, if Carrie truly did not feel comfortable or felt blindsided/upset then she would not have reposted or shared it all.
There is a viral trend on TikTok where girlfriends ask their partners to share the "candid" photographs they have taken usually without the girlfriends knowledge, they are often quite unflattering but it makes for an amusing video. It felt similar to that.
I am clearly in the minority here but I truly do not believe these are all markers for an abusive person. And I speak from a sadly very lived experience of various types of abuse in a relationship.
He is doing himself no favours by responding to comments, I will never understand why so many Influencers or Celebrities do this? Can they not see how utterly embarrassing it is?