Brianna Ghey Murder Trial #4

[WadieHaddadsChocolates]

i know it's super quick footage but the car dash cam footage of S and E walking home side by side after the attack i think is quite telling. I think it goes against his defence of saying he thought she was joking and he was just going along with her fantasy to please her. also goes against S saying E started the stabbing then said he didn't want to do it anymore. if he really thought she was bluffing and then she stabbed her mate in a frenzied attack, I'd be running home and running away from her. not going home with her side by side conversing!
I was also going over some of eddie's texts last night and he's a lot more of a willing participant than I remembered, there's a part where he SUGGESTS killing somebody else (a boy he thought was getting too close to a girl he liked) and even suggested ways of killing him. I think he kind of fooled me on the stand a little bit and I fell for the lost sheep act when his actions are actually really sinister and very similar to that of S's.

Face it, they're both awful worthless cunts, and an autism diagnosis should never be a criminal defence or argument that the person is not indeed, a moral defective who actively went out of their way to plan, participate in and commit what they clearly knew to be the worst crimes possible and chose to keep company with a similarly inclined female lunatic.

There always seems to be this weird societal binary thinking that goes on it cases of any type of couples who murder - apparently in high profile cases like this, the Bulgar murder and the Moors Murders that one by definition must have been the really bad one 'leading' the other, poor dear innocent 'nice' one who would have done no harm if only they hadn't met the other bleep, which leads to stupid sympathy campaigns for the one deemed to be the poor dear led-on one, who often turns out, as in the Bulgar case, to be rotten to the core. The lad in this case who is clearly a malfunctioning, morally defective and useless cowardly little troll (very brave when murdering a peer in a park, suddenly selectively mute and a giant fat blob of perfect uselessness in court), is currently benefitting from this dubious binary thinking because Jenkinson is such a perfectly special in yer face aggro idiot.

Fact is only a morally repugnant person CAN be led into this kind of crime if they are even led on at all which I truly doubt. Perhaps they are energized and emboldened by finding a friend who is equally as inherently misfit and criminally inclined in their thinking, but that's all. What I think is the case in folie a deux is that it's simply a meeting of already rotten, violent, unfit for society minds, in this case of two pre-existing highly anti-social social misfits of the worst kind. People who base their identity on stupid tit they found online, get socially rejected for good reason (normal kids smell their inherent unpleasant nuttery and avoid), don't receive proper punishments for the tit they got up to previous to the crime which teaches them that they can and should continue. Perhaps if Scarlett Jenkinson had been run out of society pronto and committed to a secure institution for an indeterminate period when she first tried to poison Brianna, instead of simply moving schools, well, Brianna would likely still be alive and you'd never have heard of Jenkinson. There was a chance to stop this by identifying the rotten apple and treating it as such, but of course we pretend predators are victims if they show their nutbag colours when they're underage, and then proceed to cry about spilled blood all over the park floor later.

 

[anonxoxocat]

just been doing some general sleuthing & it seems to me that scarlett & eddie were actually a lot closer than i thought. scarlett is the one of the only people outside of family & generic accounts (instagtam, sony etc) that eddie followed on instagram, and he follows her on two of her accounts. she liked nearly every single one of his posts, and he has photos of her dog up. these posts are from 2019. scarlett tagged eddie alone in almost all of her selfies from 2019-2020. if they were that close then, i can only imagine that they were basically best friends at the point of the murders?

i think it’s very telling that eddie threw scarlett under the bus straight away, whereas she is still trying to defend him and cover for him now.

both sick & disgusting individuals

 

[simonsays1111]

These were the comments made by Eddies’ school peers. The conversation started as they weren’t happy with how the media stated how Eddie was intelligent and doing well in school when he was in fact in bottom sets for most subjects

 

[Ravenstown]

Also GC (or R for reality) here but respectfully refer to Brianna as she would have wished. I don’t think her father deserves any backlash.

 

[Brooke Davis]

These were the comments made by Eddies’ school peers. The conversation started as they weren’t happy with how the media stated how Eddie was intelligent and doing well in school when he was in fact in bottom sets for most subjects

Is this on the daily mail tik tok?

 

[Loveitme]

I do think the education system has a lot to answer for. The fact that Scarlett clearly raised red flags yet was simply carted off to another school for them to deal with her?! I’m sure Brianna would not have befriended Scarlett if she knew her history and what she was like at Culcheth High School. Poor Brianna was really failed.

It was the same broken system when I was at school and solves nothing, just passes on the problem whilst the problem child corrupts more children each time.

I don’t know what the solution should be, and I’m not suggesting it should’ve been this way in Scarlett’s case as I’m aware that no one could have foreseen her actions, but I feel like these children with behavioural problems should be separated from the mainstream (with intention of rejoining) and there should be schools who are equipped to deal with these children so that the rest can get a decent education.

I feel strongly about it because I went from a nice, little, albeit quite sheltered primary school, to a secondary school with all kinds of misbehaved, law breaking, feral children and it was traumatic. It triggered a whole host of mental health issues and I still feel the trauma years on. I turned into those children whose behaviour I was witnessing daily. Seeing how they got rewarded for the few times they behaved, seeing how no one messed with them because of their reputation etc. I thought it was the way I’d stop being bullied and become popular because it was seen to be ‘cool’.

My personality completely changed. Drugs, alcohol, crime, sex were things I ended up involved in from 13 and I wouldn’t have been if specific children had been removed from that environment. It doesn’t help anyone to keep them in the same place. It’s horrible to say but it’s true: they corrupt the rest of the pupils who simply want to learn and get through their schooling unscathed. There has to be a better way to manage the persistent troublemakers. It’s a broken system.

this is spot on and a complete mirror of my own experience of school.My daughter is in year 5 currently and I worry about her moving to secondary for the reasons you've stated.

 

[whatisthisigworld]

I definitely support tighter controls on what we’re exposed to through social media. The influence on social media is scary and it also begs the question of whether there would be so many trans if it wasn’t so easily accessible on line. I’d hate to be growing up in this social media age.

 

[stardust21]

I’ve been following these along but not commenting. Honestly all of this just shows how hard it is to parent now that we essentially have two worlds - one real one real of our own making. I dread to think how it will look in ten years time with the rise of VR.

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Re the “dead naming” - I get the impression that the family dynamic of Brianna’s parents mean that the Dad of both her and her sister haven’t been involved for some time. I’m not going to speculate either way about the whys of this because sometimes these things get messy for a wide range of reasons, but I imagine that he didn’t get to see much of his daughter but did get to see a lot of his “son” so I understand that’s why they’re the photos he’s posted. It would be pretty inauthentic to post a load of pictures he wasn’t there for.

 

[veevee04]

I do think the education system has a lot to answer for. The fact that Scarlett clearly raised red flags yet was simply carted off to another school for them to deal with her?! I’m sure Brianna would not have befriended Scarlett if she knew her history and what she was like at Culcheth High School. Poor Brianna was really failed.

It was the same broken system when I was at school and solves nothing, just passes on the problem whilst the problem child corrupts more children each time.

I don’t know what the solution should be, and I’m not suggesting it should’ve been this way in Scarlett’s case as I’m aware that no one could have foreseen her actions, but I feel like these children with behavioural problems should be separated from the mainstream (with intention of rejoining) and there should be schools who are equipped to deal with these children so that the rest can get a decent education.

I feel strongly about it because I went from a nice, little, albeit quite sheltered primary school, to a secondary school with all kinds of misbehaved, law breaking, feral children and it was traumatic. It triggered a whole host of mental health issues and I still feel the trauma years on. I turned into those children whose behaviour I was witnessing daily. Seeing how they got rewarded for the few times they behaved, seeing how no one messed with them because of their reputation etc. I thought it was the way I’d stop being bullied and become popular because it was seen to be ‘cool’.

My personality completely changed. Drugs, alcohol, crime, sex were things I ended up involved in from 13 and I wouldn’t have been if specific children had been removed from that environment. It doesn’t help anyone to keep them in the same place. It’s horrible to say but it’s true: they corrupt the rest of the pupils who simply want to learn and get through their schooling unscathed. There has to be a better way to manage the persistent troublemakers. It’s a broken system.

I moved my daughters school because of this. She's autistic but is profoundly affected by feral behaviour. The school would say she's fine at school just mute at home she would be crying, ruminating over kids behaviour. The school does nothing because the parents complain if little Johnny is disciplined. Thank god her school now is so much better , she's no longer mute in lesson times. She's not bloody mute she likes rules order routine. It's why I'm so angry Eddie is using the autism card because so many like rules !!!!
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Face it, they're both awful worthless cunts, and an autism diagnosis should never be a criminal defence or argument that the person is not indeed, a moral defective who actively went out of their way to plan, participate in and commit what they clearly knew to be the worst crimes possible and chose to keep company with a similarly inclined female lunatic.

There always seems to be this weird societal binary thinking that goes on it cases of any type of couples who murder - apparently in high profile cases like this, the Bulgar murder and the Moors Murders that one by definition must have been the really bad one 'leading' the other, poor dear innocent 'nice' one who would have done no harm if only they hadn't met the other bleep, which leads to stupid sympathy campaigns for the one deemed to be the poor dear led-on one, who often turns out, as in the Bulgar case, to be rotten to the core. The lad in this case who is clearly a malfunctioning, morally defective and useless cowardly little troll (very brave when murdering a peer in a park, suddenly selectively mute and a giant fat blob of perfect uselessness in court), is currently benefitting from this dubious binary thinking because Jenkinson is such a perfectly special in yer face aggro idiot.

Fact is only a morally repugnant person CAN be led into this kind of crime if they are even led on at all which I truly doubt. Perhaps they are energized and emboldened by finding a friend who is equally as inherently misfit and criminally inclined in their thinking, but that's all. What I think is the case in folie a deux is that it's simply a meeting of already rotten, violent, unfit for society minds, in this case of two pre-existing highly anti-social social misfits of the worst kind. People who base their identity on stupid tit they found online, get socially rejected for good reason (normal kids smell their inherent unpleasant nuttery and avoid), don't receive proper punishments for the tit they got up to previous to the crime which teaches them that they can and should continue. Perhaps if Scarlett Jenkinson had been run out of society pronto and committed to a secure institution for an indeterminate period when she first tried to poison Brianna, instead of simply moving schools, well, Brianna would likely still be alive and you'd never have heard of Jenkinson. There was a chance to stop this by identifying the rotten apple and treating it as such, but of course we pretend predators are victims if they show their nutbag colours when they're underage, and then proceed to cry about spilled blood all over the park floor later.

Thanks for this. Really pisses me off it's not black and white. Every autistic person is an individual you get cuntish ones and nice ones just like allistic people.
He doesn't have a learning disability , he knows that murder is wrong. Even lots of people with learning disability especially mild still know right from wrong. There's also still a lot of sexism within autism , if Eddie was an autistic girl he wouldn't be getting loads of sympathy. Girls are expected to get on with it.

 

[blueyfan3684]

It’s no surprise that we have a whole generation of children with all kinds of mental health problems. What other generations have had access to absolute everything at the touch of a fingertip?! Violence, porn, addictive gaming, older predators grooming etc. Terrifying. It’s even easier to be self destructive as a teenager.

 

[whatisthisigworld]

It’s no surprise that we have a whole generation of children with all kinds of mental health problems. What other generations have had access to absolute everything at the touch of a fingertip?! Violence, porn, addictive gaming, older predators grooming etc. Terrifying. It’s even easier to be self destructive as a teenager.

I hate it and even with all the precautions parents take there is always ways. I had to take restrictions off my child’s internet as they needed certain websites for homework that were blocked through the filter! Also schools now communicate through Instagram so I had to allow the app. I’m still doing all I can to protect them but feel overwhelmed by it all.

 

[blueyfan3684]

I hate it and even with all the precautions parents take there is always ways. I had to take restrictions off my child’s internet as they needed certain websites for homework that were blocked through the filter! Also schools now communicate through Instagram so I had to allow the app. I’m still doing all I can to protect them but feel overwhelmed by it all.

I can’t believe schools communicate through Instagram?!
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As an adult I can see the dangers of social media and will not be letting my child access until later teens if I can help it. Yet I was one of those teenagers who found a way to do what I wanted no matter what so it’s so hard. They will just do what they want.

 

[InTheDollsHouse]

The difficulty with keeping teens away from the internet, and restricting what apps they have, is that they then became targets for bullying because they don’t have or do what ‘everyone else’ can.

It’s an impossible situation.

 

[DipsyDoodle]

The difficulty with keeping teens away from the internet, and restricting what apps they have, is that they then became targets for bullying because they don’t have or do what ‘everyone else’ can.

It’s an impossible situation.

It can also make them sneaky, my daughter used to do things at her dad's that she knew she wouldn't get away with at home, because he didn't monitor what she was up to (nothing sinister, but just stuff like I wouldn't let her have her phone in her room overnight, he didn't give a tit so she'd be up till all hours chatting/texting her mates etc).

 

[InTheDollsHouse]

It can also make them sneaky, my daughter used to do things at her dad's that she knew she wouldn't get away with at home, because he didn't monitor what she was up to (nothing sinister, but just stuff like I wouldn't let her have her phone in her room overnight, he didn't give a tit so she'd be up till all hours chatting/texting her mates etc).

Yep. I realised my son was using his school Chromebook at night to watch YouTube!

 

[HotesTilaire]

I wonder what S’s drug use was like, if kids say she was always stoned at school and eating edibles in lessons. She might have been self-medicating

 

[whatisthisigworld]

I can’t believe schools communicate through Instagram?!
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As an adult I can see the dangers of social media and will not be letting my child access until later teens if I can help it. Yet I was one of those teenagers who found a way to do what I wanted no matter what so it’s so hard. They will just do what they want.

I was really surprised by it, they’re all private accounts and of course my child’s is private and I monitor who they follow and who follows. It’s actually a very effective form of communication and a platform to show achievements etc but it means that a social media platform is now available to my child and all that comes with it! It’s a tough one as they’re going to access it eventually but it’s impossible to completely monitor.

 

[InTheDollsHouse]

I was really surprised by it, they’re all private accounts and of course my child’s is private and I monitor who they follow and who follows. It’s actually a very effective form of communication and a platform to show achievements etc but it means that a social media platform is now available to my child and all that comes with it! It’s a tough one as they’re going to access it eventually but it’s impossible to completely monitor.

Plus homework is set online and on apps.
YouTube is a source of videos for homework.

You cannot be a secondary school student without the internet.

 

[whatisthisigworld]

Plus homework is set online and on apps.
YouTube is a source of videos for homework.

You cannot be a secondary school student without the internet.

You can’t even access some of the videos on bbc bitesize with restrictions on 🫠 It’s an impossible task to police everything. Especially when their technology knowledge is better than the parents meaning me

 

[blueyfan3684]

I wonder what S’s drug use was like, if kids say she was always stoned at school and eating edibles in lessons. She might have been self-medicating

Where was she getting them from anyway? Usually it’s parents who don’t give a tit or friends but her mum especially seems very nice and respectable. Maybe her older brothers had links?