Boybands Forever

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UnresolvedYin

TwooTwooTwitTwitTwoo said:
My head's wrecked 😆. It's literally my duality of music interest played out. Do you want to be cool, or do you like this stuff your mum likes. Yep both 😆.
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Good music is good music! Crazy Horses still goes the hell off! And they cared about Climate Change 40 years before it became fashionable.
 
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maytoseptember

maytoseptember

AllSeeingEye123 said:
He was always an old man before his time. Case in point writing a song like Million Love Songs as a teenager.

When they came back from their split songs like Patience, The Flood, and Rule The World were as good if not better than their first stint classics like Back For Good.

So what do they do? Change their sound and now I can't remember their last chart success or good song.
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I actually prefer the second iteration of Take That to the first. Patience was amazing. The Circus and Progress are great albums (and tours, not that I saw them).

That was their peak. It’s impossible for any band to maintain that quality for 20-30 years. New stuff always sounds tit compared with the big hits 🥲
 
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kachoochoo

kachoochoo

I honestly feel like there's a phd that could be written on the highs and lows (literally) of robbie williams

from hanging out in his dad's pub to writing the greatest song that has ever featured in a cat food ad (isn't his tour next year sponsored by felix?), via the drugs and booze and the breakdowns and the terrible thing that was rudebox

from what I've seen tonight, it seems he is actually properly put together eventually
 
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AllSeeingEye123

kachoochoo said:
I honestly feel like there's a phd that could be written on the highs and lows (literally) of robbie williams

from hanging out in his dad's pub to writing the greatest song that has ever featured in a cat food ad (isn't his tour next year sponsored by felix?), via the drugs and booze and the breakdowns and the terrible thing that was rudebox

from what I've seen tonight, it seems he is actually properly put together eventually
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I refuse to listen to anyone who doesn't have It's Great To Be a Cat up there with Angels when talking about the creme de la creme of his back catalogue.

I love that instead of introducing himself with I'm Robbie Williams and I am a singer, he said he's Robert Peter Williams and an entertainer.

That made it known his views in the documentary were coming from the real him and not the famous fella off the TV. Also he's always said he's not the greatest singer in the world and never hidden from it, so saying entertainer fits.
 
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kachoochoo

kachoochoo

AllSeeingEye123 said:
I refuse to listen to anyone who doesn't have It's Great To Be a Cat up there with Angels when talking about the creme de la creme of his back catalogue.

I love that instead of introducing himself with I'm Robbie Williams and I am a singer, he said he's Robert Peter Williams and an entertainer.

That made it known his views in the documentary were coming from the real him and not the famous fella off the TV. Also he's always said he's not the greatest singer in the world and never hidden from it, so saying entertainer fits.
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I still can't listen to angels 20 years after it was my grandma's funeral song

but, yeah, he's an amazingly complex personality who puts his whole self into what he does and I really do think he's learned from everything he's gone through

he's just ultimately fascinating
 
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coconochanel

coconochanel

I always thought Westlife were better as foursome. Robbie Williams book Feel is worth a read, one of the best books I've read.
 
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hogwartsgraduate

Only watched episode 1 yesterday, today will be catch-up. Loved last night though 🤗

Yeah I remember Robbie on 'Reel Stories' a few years back and live very close to Stoke so have a soft spot but he's always battling bless him. I will have to try his book out.
 
BonBon27

BonBon27

Danielle Westbrook was so pretty back in the day, it’s so sad how she’s ruined herself and how much she must have suffered. Fair play to her for still putting herself out there as I’m sure she gets a lot of abuse for it.

Robbie came across well, even tho I still do think he’s a bit of a twit 🤣 Also like E17, they’re such down to earth blokes.

I always had a soft spot for Lee from 911 and people used to take the piss out of me for it, but he’s looking very good these days!! A lot better than some others for sure!

I think E17 not getting paid and Simon Cowell basically saying you can’t have everything, just put up with the crap if you want to be famous and successful, sums up the industry. Not many people involved gave/give a tit about the lads’ wellbeing, they just want the power and money. No wonder so many of them are messed up with drugs and mental health issues.
 
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TwooTwooTwitTwitTwoo

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Someone has just shared a post that Robbie has made today, an open letter to Nigel. It's deeply moving.

Sorry, I don't know how to copy it here. It's on the celebrity gossip thread.
 
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LaBlonde

LaBlonde

UnresolvedYin said:
here it is
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this is very beautifully written and so sad. the if we’re ever in the same room together just ignore me, it’s for the best, gosh :( robbie is incredibly self-aware isn’t he? i don’t know a huge amount about him personally but he seems to have a very deep understanding of how his mind/emotions work (gonna guess he’s been in therapy for quite some time based on how he speaks about himself).

the 16 when he joined the band and 21 when he left part got me. they seemed so grown up to me as a tween fan but they were just so young. it’s so much, too much, to put on a kid. living your formative years in a completely unreal world.
 
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EllieG83

EllieG83

NGL I shed a tear on the third part where it showed Robbie getting back with Take that, was always a Mark Owen girl but there was just something magical about the five of them together! Glad Robbie seems happier in his life now too.
 
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Gossngiggles

Thank you all for posting about this. Watched the first part of the documentary last night and put the Boybands at the BBC show on today, my teen was mortified when Freak Me came on 😂 he’s heard before but probably never got the lyrics until now.
 
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hogwartsgraduate

Watched all 3 episodes now. It could have had a couple more imo also but like a previous poster it's hard to get them all to agree now they have moved on. Very raw and emotional times for them all, I don't think 1 of them said it was fantastic :(
 
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Cupid_Stunt

Cupid_Stunt

hogwartsgraduate said:
Watched all 3 episodes now. It could have had a couple more imo also but like a previous poster it's hard to get them all to agree now they have moved on. Very raw and emotional times for them all, I don't think 1 of them said it was fantastic :(
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I’ll put this in a spoiler in case nobody’s seen the 3rd episode yet: apart from Duncan feeling he had to the hide the fact that he was gay, I don’t think the boys from Blue said anything overly negative about their time in the band at their original peak in the early 00s
 
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Bagpuss20

Bagpuss20

LaBlonde said:
this is very beautifully written and so sad. the if we’re ever in the same room together just ignore me, it’s for the best, gosh :( robbie is incredibly self-aware isn’t he? i don’t know a huge amount about him personally but he seems to have a very deep understanding of how his mind/emotions work (gonna guess he’s been in therapy for quite some time based on how he speaks about himself).

the 16 when he joined the band and 21 when he left part got me. they seemed so grown up to me as a tween fan but they were just so young. it’s so much, too much, to put on a kid. living your formative years in a completely unreal world.
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I'm not a huge Robbie fan but that really got me. You can tell that he has done a lot of work on himself to get to a place where he cam write something like that with such self awareness.
I was an early teen as Take That emerged- I remember the day they split and the phoneline being set up.
Look at 1D. Why all these years later is it still seen acceptable to pluck young lads from obscurity, intensively work them, uproot them to a life theyve never known before and ecpect them to just cope and manage when it all ends?
Its as if nothing is learnt from the bands that have gone before but the amount of people making money off them remains
 
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