Curse the person who introduced 360 appraisals?
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Curse the person who introduced 360 appraisals?
Are the comments anonymous like my 360s are because if you make the comment but try to keep it general so you’re not obviously identifiable.
Could you put something like needs to work on constructive feedback with key points or ensure praise is given where applicable as this helps team morale.
Could you put something like needs to work on constructive feedback with key points or ensure praise is given where applicable as this helps team morale.
No, they’re not anonymous unfortunately.
We have the anonymous option, but it seems she didn’t select that one. She can therefore identify who gave her feedback.
I was thinking about saying that she needs to tailor the delivery style of constructive feedback to the audience (polite words to say she needs to check her tone).
However, someone advised me against it because I’m two levels below her and it’s ‘not my fight to fight’. Except I was the direct recipient of that horrid tone. I should be able to express it in a polite manner.
If the point is to just give her nice feedback because I’m too ‘junior’ then I might as well not give any.
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It's nice to sound appreciative of the myriad highly specialised and higher level tasks that have been taken on, but when the entire appraisal system has been roundly ignored by management because they can't be fucked with doing it for the minions (but God help the higher management if they don't get their progression each year) so that none of the minions even get normal progression, never mind have an opportunity to make a case for regrading - and without a decision being made, there's nothing to submit an appeal against - well, those nice words are of precisely duck all use to the minions, aren't they?
Oh that’s a bummer. I guess you could still put that if keep the essence of what you want but in a constructive way.
I like the tit sandwich approach, positive wrapping a negative followed by a positive
I like the tit sandwich approach, positive wrapping a negative followed by a positive
Personally I wouldn’t bother. I hate 360 degree appraisals, we have them for senior managers and it just turns into a massive circle-wa*k because nobody dares to be honest. I‘ve played the game a couple of times when asked but I have also politely declined. Sometimes not providing feedback can speak volumes …
You’re right.
If I give her just positive feedback despite her behavior, I won’t be true to myself and it won’t reflect the reality of the situation.
Maybe not giving feedback will send a message. I don’t plan on staying in her team in any case.
She said it herself ‘no one ever challenged her leadership style’ which sounds to me that either people were afraid to give constructive feedback or just wanted to remain politically correct. If she thinks her leadership style is so great, then I’ve nothing to say because she won’t take it well or onboard.
It takes a certain kind of inflated ego to say that. We all have areas of improvement not matter how good we are at something.
We got a new manager of the dental practice I work at around 4 months ago. You really need someone who is on their game for this position. Oh no, not this lady. She arrives at 10.30 every day (blames traffic, why not leave earlier if this happens daily?) Puts the kettle on, uses the toilet, logs in, makes her coffee and gets a slice of cake, comes into the admin room and tells everyone about her new diet, an affair her sister had 20 years ago, how fantastic her daughter is at gymnastics, then disappears into her office. Sits on her phone, takes selfies (she thinks no one sees but we all can) then it’s lunch time. Usually a microwaved jacket potato and beans. Takes an hour to eat it whilst gossiping. Then after lunch she will have a bit of a panic about how little work has been done (making out no one else has done any work) she will then do about an hours work. By then it’s 2pm and she has to get halfway across Milton Keynes to collect her daughter for 3pm.
The practice manager we had before, was no better. He would always schedule personal appointments during work hours. Every time it snowed, heavy rained, was too hot etc he’d say he wasn’t able to get into work (despite him being the one staff member living closest to the surgery - a 15 minute walk) I remember once it snowed heavily and he drove his new car in (it was his pride and joy) but was worried about skidding in the car park in the ice. Rather than park on the streets surrounding the surgery, he drove his car home and didn’t come back in.
Oh and another lady who spends all her time refilling the stationary cupboard or clearing out the fridge. Great, if your employed to do that, but she wasn’t. She ignores her actual job role to do these things. The phone will be ringing and ringing and it’s left to one other person to answer. It’s got to the stage now that we are all so sick of telling her that we just let her get on with it.
The practice manager we had before, was no better. He would always schedule personal appointments during work hours. Every time it snowed, heavy rained, was too hot etc he’d say he wasn’t able to get into work (despite him being the one staff member living closest to the surgery - a 15 minute walk) I remember once it snowed heavily and he drove his new car in (it was his pride and joy) but was worried about skidding in the car park in the ice. Rather than park on the streets surrounding the surgery, he drove his car home and didn’t come back in.
Oh and another lady who spends all her time refilling the stationary cupboard or clearing out the fridge. Great, if your employed to do that, but she wasn’t. She ignores her actual job role to do these things. The phone will be ringing and ringing and it’s left to one other person to answer. It’s got to the stage now that we are all so sick of telling her that we just let her get on with it.
I’d give the feedback. She needs to know she’s an arse. Go for it
Ive got an interview lined up this week and they've asked me to bring an object that I think represents me 
Apparently it's so that they can get to know me as a person.
Apparently it's so that they can get to know me as a person.
Aaaaand this is why I will never get anywhere in the corporate world. I cannot stand things like that, I’d be thinking of ways to be as politely subversive as possible … ‘Oh this? It’s my lucky mushroom, it represents me as I thrive on bull-poo and do best when I’m kept in the dark …’Ive got an interview lined up this week and they've asked me to bring an object that I think represents me
Apparently it's so that they can get to know me as a person.
I’d take in something like a white shirt. Good all rounder, adaptable, easy to get on with and always delivers.Ive got an interview lined up this week and they've asked me to bring an object that I think represents me
Apparently it's so that they can get to know me as a person.
What a load of pretentious twaddle!Ive got an interview lined up this week and they've asked me to bring an object that I think represents me
Apparently it's so that they can get to know me as a person.
But this is a really good answer!
Good luck with it, anyway
Thank youWhat a load of pretentious twaddle!
But this is a really good answer!
Good luck with it, anyway
I really wanted the job until I got the interview task and this has really put me off.@TheGlossy I worked in a team with maybe 6 other people and our manager feedback was all so scathing that they got asked to resign. So if you think that other people might also write her negative feedback then it’s worth it. Of course you can still write it diplomatically and professionally.
Sometimes it isn't your fight and you have to look after your own interests first and foremost. My concern for you also would be that you might be handing her a weapon to use against you.
I would be inclined to say nothing. Sometimes silence speaks volumes.
I am not sure if she could then ask you why you didn't give feedback - as she sounds extremely unprofessional, it's a possibility she would ask - so be prepared with a bland answer.
And get the hell out of there as soon as you can.
A good update, the piece of work is up for an industry award and the credit is all mine!
Well done you!
Thank you.
I agree. If I give her negative feedback she’ll use it against me. However, knowing her, no feedback will equally be used against me as a sign of me being ‘disengaged’ and she will 100% ask why I didn’t give her any feedback.
She’s the type of person who stated that someone remaining occasionally silent on a call means they’re ‘disengaged’, so imagine what she’ll say about the lack of feedback on her. However, I’d rather give no feedback than to give a politically correct one to boost her ego without addressing the areas of improvement.
In any case, she sees a problem in everything I do (down to making a fuss about where I sit in the office). I’ll just remain silent and hope to find a better team soon.
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