Say nothing. You clearly don’t have an interest in the course, only problem is if there is some form of clawback arrangement in place they could then take the cost from your final salary. They can’t do that if there is no agreement though. Is the course of benefit to you elsewhere?Can I get advice on something here...I am interviewing for jobs at the moment mainly because of my manager!
Anyway a few months ago she suggested a short course which is a little expensive at approx 1500 euro. She occasionally tries to appear supportive and this was one of those times. I knew i was planning to leave so i said i would look into it and waited as long as I could but she mentioned it again earlier this week so I felt I had to sign up for it. But I have since gotten a fair few interviews set up and I feel so guilty...my notice is really long so even and if I hand in my notice in the next week or so it would be at the very end of my notice period.
If one of the jobs works out I was going to say I would pay for it myself just as a goodwill gesture. What do ye think?
Technically, if a company sponsors a course or a degree, you have to remain in the company for a specific amount of time otherwise you have to refund a portion or the full fee to the company on your way out. It’s policy in most companies so whether you offer it as a gesture or not, the company is entitled to ask for their money back anywaysCan I get advice on something here...I am interviewing for jobs at the moment mainly because of my manager!
Anyway a few months ago she suggested a short course which is a little expensive at approx 1500 euro. She occasionally tries to appear supportive and this was one of those times. I knew i was planning to leave so i said i would look into it and waited as long as I could but she mentioned it again earlier this week so I felt I had to sign up for it. But I have since gotten a fair few interviews set up and I feel so guilty...my notice is really long so even and if I hand in my notice in the next week or so it would be at the very end of my notice period.
If one of the jobs works out I was going to say I would pay for it myself just as a goodwill gesture. What do ye think?
I would back out of the course - don't give a reason; just withdraw.Can I get advice on something here...I am interviewing for jobs at the moment mainly because of my manager!
Anyway a few months ago she suggested a short course which is a little expensive at approx 1500 euro. She occasionally tries to appear supportive and this was one of those times. I knew i was planning to leave so i said i would look into it and waited as long as I could but she mentioned it again earlier this week so I felt I had to sign up for it. But I have since gotten a fair few interviews set up and I feel so guilty...my notice is really long so even and if I hand in my notice in the next week or so it would be at the very end of my notice period.
If one of the jobs works out I was going to say I would pay for it myself just as a goodwill gesture. What do ye think?
There is no such policy in my company as I had asked HR a few months ago as a team member is interested in doing a professional qualification. They said the policy is still being drafted and it hasnt been circulated Mine is a very short course - 2 days.Technically, if a company sponsors a course or a degree, you have to remain in the company for a specific amount of time otherwise you have to refund a portion or the full fee to the company on your way out. It’s policy in most companies so whether you offer it as a gesture or not, the company is entitled to ask for their money back anyways
Is a course on managing people. I currently have a team of 4 but in the roles I am applying for some have direct reports and others dont. It would be a good course to do but I dont mind if I do it or not.Say nothing. You clearly don’t have an interest in the course, only problem is if there is some form of clawback arrangement in place they could then take the cost from your final salary. They can’t do that if there is no agreement though. Is the course of benefit to you elsewhere?
I was nodding in agreement whilst reading your post. I'm finding the exact same thing in my job (to which I'm fairly new also). I'm an avid note-taker (and pretty good at capturing detail verbatim as it's relayed), and it's becoming extremely obvious that they tell me something different every time! Don't get me started on idiots who say, "Yeah, well it's fairly fluid" in response - it's not; they're just sloppy and take shortcuts (well, some do and hope they won't get caught, and the ones who do it properly don't want to share the knowledge).Everything!
I’ve only been there a short while and I had such high hopes for this job, but it’s turned out to be the weirdest, most draining atmosphere I’ve ever worked in. Stifling.
Then there’s work allocation. Some get away with taking almost all day to do one job; others get more and more dumped on them. Every day it’s decided to do things a different way, and the more accommodating you are, the more is expected of you.
Add to this a team leader who is a complete control freak and it’s starting to push me over the edge!
I did have a mini meltdown last week - in a very controlled way - because I seem to get so much dumped on me, and I ended up making a silly mistake. Mistake was my fault, but the imbalance of work isn’t being noticed.
I felt really bad for trying to defend myself afterwards so now I’m just morphing into the rest of the stepford workers
Honestly, I feel your pain! I could have actually screamed the other day when someone told me how to do something - the exact opposite way from what they’d previously told me!I was nodding in agreement whilst reading your post. I'm finding the exact same thing in my job (to which I'm fairly new also). I'm an avid note-taker (and pretty good at capturing detail verbatim as it's relayed), and it's becoming extremely obvious that they tell me something different every time! Don't get me started on idiots who say, "Yeah, well it's fairly fluid" in response - it's not; they're just sloppy and take shortcuts (well, some do and hope they won't get caught, and the ones who do it properly don't want to share the knowledge).
I went in early today, hoping to tackle a few things and leave earlier at the end of the day as there are massive storms here at the moment and I was worried I might not make it home; of course something was dumped on me at the 11th hour because someone else - who did leave early - had forgotten about it.
This is not the case in the UK.Technically, if a company sponsors a course or a degree, you have to remain in the company for a specific amount of time otherwise you have to refund a portion or the full fee to the company on your way out. It’s policy in most companies so whether you offer it as a gesture or not, the company is entitled to ask for their money back anyways
I'd say it's up to each companies own policyThis is not the case in the UK.
Ours do claw back for courses from £1500 onwards, it’s quite usual in large UK companies with high turnover…This is not the case in the UK.
Today's rant...
People who only seem to read their emails a couple of times a week, so start forwarding multiple emails in one go with "for your info" or "please can you deal with this?"
If you'd sent them on the day you received them, I'd be able to space the work out, but as you seem to choose to forward shed loads of emails every Friday, some with "please can this be provided by the end of the week" it doesn't leave me much time to deal with it. Though last time I "missed" a deadline I just said to the originator that it had only been forwarded to me on the Friday and named the person. I'm caring less about dropping people in it these days.
Yeah it's a schoolboy error not to order emails by subject and just read the latest one when there's a big chain!Kind of similarly to this. When there's about 8 people in copy on a query/dispute email, you fix the issue, email to say it is sorted and then someone who's not up to date on their emails sends one asking you to look in to itTbh people doing that is annoying enough in itself
Rotten environment, but let them look all they like!I’m currently working with a set of ‘mean girls’ who are lazy bitches too. I’m constantly having to pick up their work load to keep things on track while they won’t even acknowledge I’m there. Today I had to leave bang on my finish time and the look I got when they realised I wouldn’t stay late to help them finish their job
There has to be a policy that stipulates this, though. There's no law that says that they can just do it.Ours do claw back for courses from £1500 onwards, it’s quite usual in large UK companies with high turnover…
My office takes people on as trainees and puts them through college or uni depending on the job, and it’s in the contract that you have to stay for at least 2 years after you qualify or you have to pay the fees back.There has to be a policy that stipulates this, though. There's no law that says that they can just do it.
It’s likely in the employer’s contract, and HR policy. However, if not had a training agreement for the course then perhaps harder to enforce, and usually the cost of repayment tails off after 1-2 years following completion.There has to be a policy that stipulates this, though. There's no law that says that they can just do it.
Yes, it's in the contract. If the OP doesn't have it in her contract, she has no obligation to anybody. My employer doesn't require this.My office takes people on as trainees and puts them through college or uni depending on the job, and it’s in the contract that you have to stay for at least 2 years after you qualify or you have to pay the fees back.
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