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Blurp

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I get what you mean, but you need to look at it from Andrews pov.

- he has lost his fancy titles
- he has lost his privileged life of jetting round the world acting important
- everyone thinks hes a perv and a fool
- he has lost all power and influence
- he isnt even a prince anymore and lost any deference. He is basically a commoner.
- he is now stuck in some out of the way country house that he will see as far below him

This, for Andrew, is as bad as it gets (short of jail). Kicking him out the country in exile somewhere (like the Duke of Windsor was) would actually give him more what he wants. He could probably find a rich middle east friend and set up a mini court abroad.

Also question the best diet comment, have you seen the state of him? With no life now I can see him going the way of Henry 8th and eating himself into an early grave
Don't forget that this is a man who totally loved his titles and used them at every opportunity. He's reported to have said to his RN commanding officer that he was "HRH The Prince Andrew but you can call me Andrew" to which the grim reply was "and you can call me Sir". There have been several stories about how he wanted everyone to stand up and say "Good morning, sir/YRH" when he came into breakfast on weekend house parties; no doubt several people would have had titles of their own and now he is well below them, a mere mister and commoner, who they could insist call them "your lordship" or whatever.

This will really be hurting him.
 
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youRjokingHunz

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I’m enjoying watching this odious arrogant man finally having to answer for his actions! I can’t imagine he would be intelligent enough to give a No comment interview .. stupid Pratt will think he can bluff and blunder pass this highly intelligent officers !!! I HAVE NO RECOLLECTION OF EVER PASSING ON INFORMATION TO PUTIN.. sorry INWAS IN POZZA EXPRESS A THEN..

Stupid cunt.. a life of pleasure abruptly ended
 
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GingerJones50

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More on F and Epstein
New pressure on the former Prince Andrew this morning, as UK police now say they are examining flight logs at a UK airport used by Jeffrey Epstein's private jet.

Newly released Epstein emails have placed the former Duchess of York back into the spotlight. These are the alleged messages and business troubles that have reignited scrutiny around her finances and judgment.

Over the past few days, documents released by the US Department of Justice as part of the Epstein investigation have brought renewed attention to reported email exchanges between Sarah Ferguson and Jeffrey Epstein, with coverage led in part by Fox News, which highlighted specific excerpts and placed them back into public view.

The focus here is not on new criminal allegations against her, because none have been reported in these releases, but on the tone of the emails, the language used, and what they reveal about her financial position at the time.

At the center of it all sits a 2010 email. According to the reporting, the former duchess wrote to Epstein asking for a job, and the phrasing is what has caused such a stir. She reportedly told him, “But why? I don't understand. Don't you just get me to be your house assistant?”

And his ex-wife, Sarah Ferguson, is also now facing new questions. She is reportedly shutting down six of her companies after the latest Epstein emails revealed her own close ties.

“I am the most capable and desperately need the money. Please, Jeffrey, think about it.”

Those words, particularly “desperately need the money,” have traveled quickly.

By 2010, Epstein had already pleaded guilty in Florida and served time in the Palm Beach County Jail. That means this correspondence, as reported, came after that conviction and sentence rather than before. That is an important point to make, as it raises questions about her judgment.

Financial strain had followed the former duchess for years. Following her 1996 divorce from the former Duke of York, she did not walk away with the kind of settlement the public often assumes accompanies a royal separation. Over the years that followed, her media-linked ventures, commercial projects, and debts frequently made headlines.

By 2025, the fallout from Epstein-related revelations had already cost her patronages with several charities and professional roles she once held.

The newly highlighted documents also point back to 2009. During the period when Epstein was serving his jail sentence, Ferguson allegedly contacted him for advice about bankruptcy. Bankruptcy is not a word people use lightly, especially in her position.

One document shows she wrote to him after his 2009 release from prison for soliciting a minor, referring to him as “the brother I had always wished for.” She has yet to comment on the matter.

Reports at the time indicated she was weighing financial bailouts from two billionaires and even considering selling her own jewelry to stay afloat. That combination paints a clear picture: the money situation was serious.

March 2010 brings another email into focus. After Epstein asked about a trip to New York, she allegedly replied, “Not sure yet. Just waiting for Eugenie to come back from a shagging weekend.”

Princess Eugenie was 19 at the time, and the tone of that message — casual and crude — has unsettled many royal watchers.

A further 2009 exchange, also referenced in the reporting, involved a planned lunch. In that email, she reportedly wrote, “What address shall we come to? It will be myself, Beatrice, and Eugenie.” The inclusion of both daughters’ names in correspondence with Epstein has understandably drawn attention and discomfort.

There are no new allegations of criminal wrongdoing against the former duchess in these documents. What they show, based on what has been reported, is continued association with Epstein after his conviction and an apparent reliance on him for advice and, in at least one instance, financial assistance.

That assistance surfaced publicly in 2010, when Epstein paid £15,000 directly to one of her creditors. She later described accepting that help as a “gigantic error of judgment,” a phrase she used when addressing the matter publicly.

In a 2011 interview with Oprah Winfrey, she spoke openly about her financial position and admitted, “I was in the gutter at that moment,” which remains one of the clearest descriptions she has given of her circumstances.

Recent developments add another layer. BBC News and CNN reported that six companies connected to the former duchess are expected to close. Those companies are S. Phoenix Events, Fergus Farm, Luna Investments, Solomon Limited, Philanthropeneur Limited, and Planet Partners Productions Limited, with her listed as director for each one.

Her charitable foundation, Sarah’s Trust, also announced its closure for the foreseeable future following the latest filings and public scrutiny tied to the Epstein material.

Six closures at once stand out. Businesses can be wound down for many reasons, from lack of activity to restructuring. Yet the fact that all six are expected to close has been widely noted in the same news cycle as these emails.

Royal family dynamics have also shifted further in the wake of recent developments. Prince Andrew, who announced in October 2025 that he would give up his titles, including Duke of York, amid continued scrutiny over his connection to Epstein, still legally holds those titles because removing them requires parliamentary action. However, Buckingham Palace removed his name from official public roles, and he no longer uses those honors publicly. His status within the family has been sharply reduced.

Meanwhile, both Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie have kept low public profiles recently, though there have been notable appearances. Princess Eugenie was spotted in Qatar earlier this month attending a major art event, Art Basel Qatar, marking a rare public outing amid ongoing controversy around her parents.

Reports from multiple outlets indicate that the sisters remain close to both their mother and father but are also experiencing significant strain in their relationships with Andrew in particular, with sources describing their bond as “very strained” in recent weeks. That tension reflects a broader challenge facing the siblings as they balance family loyalty with their own careers and public roles.

Over decades, stories of loans, debts, and ambitious commercial ventures have followed the former duchess. That pattern forms the backdrop to the present situation.

Back in 2010, in a separate episode, she was filmed by an undercover journalist offering access to the former Duke of York for £500,000. She later apologized for that incident as well, again calling it a serious error of judgment.

In more recent years, the tone around her had temporarily softened. Following breast cancer treatment in 2023, she received sympathy and public goodwill, speaking about resilience and health while appearing alongside members of the royal family in a way that suggested a period of relative stability.

The resurfacing of these emails interrupts that steadier narrative. Although they do not introduce a new criminal scandal, they provide additional detail about past associations and financial distress. Emails carry a different weight because they reflect unfiltered language rather than carefully prepared statements.

For many viewers who have followed the royal family since the 1980s, this chapter feels like a continuation of an established storyline — one that combines moments of poor judgment with surprising financial vulnerability.

At present, there has been no new public statement from the former duchess specifically addressing these latest document releases. In previous years, she expressed regret for her association with Epstein and acknowledged that accepting his help had been a mistake.
A lot of that is waffle. But I think the bit about Fergie offering to be his house assistant after he was convicted is genuinely important. Apparently Ghislaine was really jealous when she saw that.

We’ve seen the pictures of Epstein’s apartment and how sexualised, particularly the sexualisation of very young adults and children the whole place was. She was essentially offering to replace Maxwell and become Epstein’s madam.

I think Epstein turned her down because she would have drawn too much attention, couldn’t keep her mouth shut and possibly had a pill addiction (VG said he would throw his girls into Siberia and stop paying for their stuff if they got addictions and only take them back if they kicked it on their own - didn’t send them to rehab or anything).

The only reason she isn’t in Ghislaine’s shoes is because he turned her down. She was totally prepared to do everything Ghislaine did, she just didn’t get the chance.
 
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Eirawen

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'When Andrew ‘was a young man his behaviour was so atrocious that a footman punched him in the face’. The Queen is said to have ‘refused his subsequent offer to resign on the grounds that her son had obviously deserved it’. 😂 😂 😂

Additionally, the report noted that while the Queen ‘indulged him’, Andrew would often get on the wrong side of his mother. Growing up he is said to have frequently climbed the roof of Buckingham Palace to tinker with the TV aerial so ‘she couldn't watch the racing’.'
The footman deserved a medal
 
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karma4klattie

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What the very fuck.....


Shit, that's bad.

Really bad.

Unforgiveable.

And was Fergie in on it?

I reckon she'd do anything for money.
 
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supers0nic

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I genuinely just believe he was arrested to make it look like they are doing something but I find it so unlikely that we will see any real progression in convicting him and if he is convicted the liklihood of him being placed in a prison cell is slim. He will never be treated like a regular prisoner, if convicted it would most likely be a suspended sentence.
 
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Mark81

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I suspect this is exactly what Charles and William want. Especially if he is charged. It kind of takes the Andrew problem off their hands.

Andrew is the first royal arrested since Charles 1st, 350 years ago
 
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Asterix

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Well it's not like anyone wouldn't recognise him if he tried. I would think it might be difficult for him to leave unnoticed.
Private jet to wherever. No one can stop him. It would be inadvisable but that's the story of his life.

'Would have' not 'would of' you daft, patronising, smug, sanctimonious, unbearably up yourself old tart
It's a special level of thick to have an education as expensive as she did and still not know that.
 
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Yel

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I genuinely just believe he was arrested to make it look like they are doing something but I find it so unlikely that we will see any real progression in convicting him and if he is convicted the liklihood of him being placed in a prison cell is slim. He will never be treated like a regular prisoner, if convicted it would most likely be a suspended sentence.
I think the opposite. There's no one other than Bea or Eug really looking out for him, and one of those two almost popped Ed Sheeran's eyeball after a bit too much vino. And the other was largely responsible for organising that legendary BBC interview.

Charles own statement reads as if he's talking about some random person not connected at all with him. It's in everyones interest to make an example of him.
 
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Mysteryy

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Am I the only person who thinks Royal Lodge looks like bit of a run down dump? I noticed now drab it was from the aerial footage the other day.
I think for AMW, it was the sheer size of Royal Lodge that appealed to him and the fact that it required staff. Probably helped him maintain his delusions of granduer, thinking that he's a lot more special than he actually is.
 
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maytoseptember

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What was she doing for Epstein to bankroll her for 15 years?! I'm sure he wasn't doing it from the goodness of his heart 😔 Suddenly the rumours about her trafficking girls doesn't seem so far fetched anymore 😔
The thing is, it wasn’t just Fergie who was going up to him with the begging bowl out, it was countless others. Mandelson’s husband got several payouts didn’t he?

I can’t even begin to process the reciprocal agreements that went on, quite aside from the trafficking and abuse of women and children.
 
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I think the late queen knew much of what we’re finding out now before she died.

Royalty cannot fart without someone writing it down. Andrew’s security detail must have known plenty.

If the rich are so untouchable the authorities should be going after, what must be teams of people, who facilitated their despicable activities.

The pilots, the caterers, housekeeping, security guards, drivers. Billionaires don’t do their own dirty work. Nope.
 
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kingseven

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I’m watching BBC and they are reporting six police cars attended with one going up to the front entrance and five covering the back entrance which is a police tactic to prevent an escape.

Three cars left thirty minutes later, with one not being one of the six police cars, which was believed to be Andrew and his security detail. Police have confirmed they are currently searching a property in Windsor and one in Sandringham.
 
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monga

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I remember all of that. John Major became really close friends with Taoiseach Albert Reynolds which was the basis of Northern Irish peace, Blair came in at the end, hijacked it and pretended it was all his doing.

Likewise, Mo Mowlam went into NI as Secretary of State for NI and worked wonders, especially engaging with Republicans. She died of cancer and Mandy parachuted in and tried to claim all the credit.

It just astounds me he was brought back into government sp many times after failing so badly.
None of them could fill Mo’s boots , never heard a bad word against her and what an inspirational woman that still held office whilst going through such a horrific time, she’s still held in very high regard in the failed state…Mandelson on the other hand did FA .
 
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Okivia2020

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Apparently he could get life in prison 😱 I’m using sky news here so don’t quote me if I’m wrong
 
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Mollywobbles

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Yes - the photograph was proven / confirmed as real some years ago.
Do I believe the photo is real?
- yes. Why would anyone make the effort to fake it when there are so many other photos.
- I have photos of people we met on holiday, best friends for two weeks, now we can’t even remember their names or where they were taken. So if AMW says he can’t remember it being taken, that’s possible.

Did AMW meet Virginia Guffre?
- I believe he did
- But he “met” so many other young women he probably can’t remember her and never thought of her as a person, just a sex worker.
- he might never have known her real name, she might have had a work name like Honey, Sweetie, etc to protect Epstein’s collection of young girls. She wasn’t even a real person.
- how appalling that she and others were never considered as anything but toys, amusements,

Do I believe anything Ghislaine Maxwell says?
- some bits might be true, some might be lies to protect herself and any famous names who could help her.


I wonder how many of these young girls thought the men they serviced loved them, that they might have a lovely life, maybe marriage, and be another Ghislaine with a charmed life.
 
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