It was 1.46pm UK time when the north tower was hit and 2.03pm when the south tower was hit. I was in 1st year of high school (so 12 years old) and in 5th period geography which was the first class of the afternoon. Our teacher had wheeled the tv through for us to watch something and the class ended up sitting watching the news coverage in shock.
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The foyer area where the Manchester Arena bomb went off was flagged as a potential terrorist target quite a while before it happened though clearly nothing was done about it. Its actually part of the train station and not part of the arena itself. There used to be a McDonald’s there and people would congregate before and after shows. I’ve been though it many times although not since it happened and I don’t think I ever once saw any security there. It was a sitting target basically,
Fahrenheit 9/11 is now available for free
The comments on that post are horrendous.These are all such sad stories
Spoke to my parents about it earlier and my dad said he heard about it at work but the news was that it was a small plane and then became apparent it wasn’t. He said they just could not get on to the internet at all the whole day and then everyone just went home early.
Mum was with us at our friends house after school and just remembers watching both the towers collapse; we looked up the timings and it was about 3/3.30 UK time.
I hate the whataboutism.
I was 9, didn’t really understand what was going on and didn’t hear until after school. I remember my mum turned off the radio because it was making me upset and hiding the newspapers. I didn’t really research it until about 10 maybe 9 years ago. I just put 9/11 into Google and started to read about it and read the stories of the people trapped and listened to the phone calls. I’m glad I waited until I was older to look into it because I was able to understand it much more than if I was younger.
I also read this article every so often around the time of the anniversary. It’s a great article and gives you an insight in how one man managed to save over 2,000 people. He was originally from Cornwall and was very proud of his heritage. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/...cial&utm_source=twitter&utm_social-type=owned
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Yeh there is very little security in the UK, I mean look at the chaos at the World Cup match, people were just able to storm in. I love live music and have been terrified since both bataclan and Manchester, I still go but it is always in the back of my mind
Re security and checks
It's worth saying that it's staggering what facial recognition and other AI tech is doing these days. So many terrorist events of the past would now be flagged up and hopefully delt with
It's worth saying that it's staggering what facial recognition and other AI tech is doing these days. So many terrorist events of the past would now be flagged up and hopefully delt with
I went to a gig in Manchester the week after the bomb and I have never seen anything like it. But yes, it is extremely variable. I have been late into to see bands due to queuing because of security through to just a quick flash of my handbag.
That’s reassuring!
I used to fly a lot between Germany and the UK (mostly London and Manchester) and while I do found the security in the UK to be great and thorough, I couldn’t keep count how many times I accidentally forgot liquids or stuff like scissors in my bag and no one in Germany cared. Made me feel quite uneasy for a while … but maybe they “can” be a bit more relaxed nowadays? I also don’t really fit the persona they are probably looking out for but still…
I remember I was eating dinner (it stayed with me that much I remember what I was eating and it’s 20 years ago), mum had watched both towers be hit, she was out the room when the first tower fell but I saw it happen and it’s something I’ll never forget watching it live
Visited the Museum in 2018 and it really touched me
listening to Brian sweeney voicemail to his wife Jules got me sobbing hard
The survivor tree is also very moving
Visited the Museum in 2018 and it really touched me
listening to Brian sweeney voicemail to his wife Jules got me sobbing hard
The survivor tree is also very moving
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I work in the event industry - and to reassure you there is so much planning and risk assessments to keep people safe.
Unfortunately you can never prevent every eventuality though.
Unfortunately you can never prevent every eventuality though.
I visited the memorial and museum in 2019. I have visited New York many times, my first visit was in 1999, the towers were there. Great architecture and something to look at but really nothing more than office buildings Prior to 9/11. How that changed . I found it eerie even being there, like I was intruding and shouldn’t be there . The site is a grave for many people and so personal to their families, it’s haunting. Not a place for selfies and tourism IMO. Although I understand it’s a very significant place of history. The museum had us in tears, the firefighter truck and helmet, the phone calls from loved ones, the pictures of missing people and desperate messages for information, the pieces of metal from the towers, the personal belongings. I found it really heart wrenching and the TV coverage of the anniversary every year makes me emotional.
I remember where I was on 9/11. I was working in an office in a telephone based job. The owners were a husband and wife team, not nice people. As news filtered through, her words were ‘ it doesn’t effect us, we don’t need to waste time discussing it’. What an out and out ****
I remember where I was on 9/11. I was working in an office in a telephone based job. The owners were a husband and wife team, not nice people. As news filtered through, her words were ‘ it doesn’t effect us, we don’t need to waste time discussing it’. What an out and out ****
Officials have said the toll was reduced by around 70% because it was before many got into the office. Most people in Manhattan offices around then got in from 8:30 to 9:30 and rarely do people have meetings before 9am especially with external visitors. If people in Manhattan worked as you claim with their 8.2 hour days they'd be leaving the office just after 4pm. It's more like 6pm
I was 19 and doing a temp job just before going off to uni. I’d been out and about in my car but didn’t have the radio on as I’d recently been given a 6 CD changer that was in the boot so I felt like the nuts listening to Samantha Mumba 
I headed back to the office and was stopped at the security barrier which was odd as they normally waved staff straight through. I was starting to get annoyed at being sat there while they made phone calls as I thought my boss was going to kick off about having been gone so long.
The security guard eventually came over and said I could go through but told me we were at amber level of warning. I didn’t have a clue until I got into the actual office to find a lot of shocked faces gathered round a TV.
In 2019 I went to NYC for the first time and we went to pay our respects at the memorial as my family knew someone killed that day. I was horrified to see people going live on Instagram and posing and pouting for their followers whilst leaning against the pools and doing duckface. It was so inappropriate. As was this daft witch and her boyfriend taking smoochy selfies with the pools as a back drop. My friend and I had to leave as I was going to get into a row with them if we stayed. We went across the street to O’Hara’s pub and got talking to them about it as it was the 6th September so approaching the anniversary.
The pub is covered in badges and patches from first responders all over the world and they have scrapbooks of cuttings and photos to do with 9/11. The barman was also telling us that they close for a couple of days near the anniversary and will only let family members of the victims in.
On September 11th we were at Niagara Falls on the Canadian side. The coach driver saw the American flags all flying half mast and said “oh god the flags are all lowered I hope everything is okay over there”. Cue the entire coach shouting that it was 9/11. What a douche!
I headed back to the office and was stopped at the security barrier which was odd as they normally waved staff straight through. I was starting to get annoyed at being sat there while they made phone calls as I thought my boss was going to kick off about having been gone so long.
The security guard eventually came over and said I could go through but told me we were at amber level of warning. I didn’t have a clue until I got into the actual office to find a lot of shocked faces gathered round a TV.
In 2019 I went to NYC for the first time and we went to pay our respects at the memorial as my family knew someone killed that day. I was horrified to see people going live on Instagram and posing and pouting for their followers whilst leaning against the pools and doing duckface. It was so inappropriate. As was this daft witch and her boyfriend taking smoochy selfies with the pools as a back drop. My friend and I had to leave as I was going to get into a row with them if we stayed. We went across the street to O’Hara’s pub and got talking to them about it as it was the 6th September so approaching the anniversary.
The pub is covered in badges and patches from first responders all over the world and they have scrapbooks of cuttings and photos to do with 9/11. The barman was also telling us that they close for a couple of days near the anniversary and will only let family members of the victims in.
On September 11th we were at Niagara Falls on the Canadian side. The coach driver saw the American flags all flying half mast and said “oh god the flags are all lowered I hope everything is okay over there”. Cue the entire coach shouting that it was 9/11. What a douche!
I was working at the time and sitting an exam when it happened so, by the we got out in the evening, I had my usual 90 min commute before I got home. When I walked in and saw it on tv, I couldn’t believe it and I still don’t believe it in the sense of what we’ve been told vs what my brain was telling me.
I don’t agree with “conspiracy theories” being used as general insult, often used by the media; if you believe something could be subject to a conspiracy then theories are a natural consequence and open-mindedness is essential. I’m not some uneducated crank, I have a Masters degree, an inquisitive mind and have learnt over my 50++ years that my gut feeling is usually right. I’m retired now and for the last two days I have cried more than ever over this event.
MSM documentaries don’t cover enough. This video is well hidden (she starts about 4 mins in). I don’t know what happened to part two, it used to exist. Even if you believe none of it, it is still remarkable.
www.drjudywood.com
I don’t agree with “conspiracy theories” being used as general insult, often used by the media; if you believe something could be subject to a conspiracy then theories are a natural consequence and open-mindedness is essential. I’m not some uneducated crank, I have a Masters degree, an inquisitive mind and have learnt over my 50++ years that my gut feeling is usually right. I’m retired now and for the last two days I have cried more than ever over this event.
MSM documentaries don’t cover enough. This video is well hidden (she starts about 4 mins in). I don’t know what happened to part two, it used to exist. Even if you believe none of it, it is still remarkable.
Presentations – Dr Judy Wood
www.drjudywood.com
Just sat and read this article. Not gonna lie, sobbing right now. Heroism at it's finest, but his poor widow
I've just watched this, that sound was awful. I was too young at the time to take it all on so watching them all now as never really understood it all
I’m sorry lovely, didn’t mean to make you cry! Thank you for reading it, I don’t know why but I just find his story really interesting and the fact that he knew this would be a problem and worked hard to make sure people were as safe as possible. He was a remarkable man.Just sat and read this article. Not gonna lie, sobbing right now. Heroism at it's finest, but his poor widow
They were in the documentary on channel 4 recently called 'Children of 9/11: Our Story' it was very interesting. Their mums have all been through so much but have managed to raise some really well adjusted kids.These are all such sad stories
Spoke to my parents about it earlier and my dad said he heard about it at work but the news was that it was a small plane and then became apparent it wasn’t. He said they just could not get on to the internet at all the whole day and then everyone just went home early.
Mum was with us at our friends house after school and just remembers watching both the towers collapse; we looked up the timings and it was about 3/3.30 UK time.
I was working at the time and sitting an exam when it happened so, by the we got out in the evening, I had my usual 90 min commute before I got home. When I walked in and saw it on tv, I couldn’t believe it and I still don’t believe it in the sense of what we’ve been told vs what my brain was telling me.
I don’t agree with “conspiracy theories” being used as general insult, often used by the media; if you believe something could be subject to a conspiracy then theories are a natural consequence and open-mindedness is essential. I’m not some uneducated crank, I have a Masters degree, an inquisitive mind and have learnt over my 50++ years that my gut feeling is usually right. I’m retired now and for the last two days I have cried more than ever over this event.
MSM documentaries don’t cover enough. This video is well hidden (she starts about 4 mins in). I don’t know what happened to part two, it used to exist. Even if you believe none of it, it is still remarkable.
Presentations – Dr Judy Wood
Like you I am 50+ have a masters degree in and a 20 year career in crime investigation but that is where our similarities end. I don’t trust gut feeling but rely on evidence, and I think most conspiracy theorists are in fact cranks. In fact at the heart of every conspiracy theory is a paranoid mind which is convinced that their lives are being run by unseen forces, which simply rejects such simple things as freedom of choice or culpability,”It wasn’t me mate it was the illuminati”. In fact I would so far as to say that if the world is being by a shadowy organisation who have managed to avoid detection for centuries then that organisation has a remarkable level of competence and SHOULD be running the world. So how come we have the clowns we have now?
Open minds are essential for enquiry but there is a difference between an open mind and a gaping mind that accepts any old rit. The twin towers collapsed because a group of terrorists flew planes into them, and I know this because I watched it happen live in all it’s horror. And no it isn’t what “they” want me to think. It is what happened. To claim otherwise is just to completely divorce yourself from reality.
I was 3.5 so don't really remember it, but I can remember my mum watching it on the news and trying to ring my uncle who lived just outside New York