I mean I find this incredibly disturbing and inappropriate but I’m probably an insulting elitist so what do I know
2024 US Election
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Come on, he's only practising for when he goes to jail.
Honestly, it’s exhausting - and ironic - to see you repeatedly slate other people for “not understanding” what other people’s lived experiences are etc - when you know nothing about those posters 🫣
I'm often reminded of episodes of Veep following this election.
I recall one episode where there was an autocue problem at an address to congress and Selina had to wing the speech until it started up again.
I still think he is going to win. He has his MAGA cult, he's destroyed the GOP (the republican party is dead, conservatism is dead, it's all Trumpism), and has a lot of people who will not say it but will vote for him.
I hate both parties so much. I don't know who I am voting for. I don't even want to but it is a right women fought for so I could have it. Our local elections are a mess too, far-left Democrats who have no chance in a red area + psycho MAGAs. No centrists, no moderates. I think most Americans are probably, honestly - right there in the middle center left, center right, there's no compromise, it's treated as an American football game of your favorite team vs that other team.
I hate both parties so much. I don't know who I am voting for. I don't even want to but it is a right women fought for so I could have it. Our local elections are a mess too, far-left Democrats who have no chance in a red area + psycho MAGAs. No centrists, no moderates. I think most Americans are probably, honestly - right there in the middle center left, center right, there's no compromise, it's treated as an American football game of your favorite team vs that other team.
This exactly. It's happening the world over.
I think social media is making it so much worse, people live in bubbles where algorithms serve up content so get a distorted view and have no idea what is real anymore.
I think the polls won't have massively underestimated the trump vote this year so it will be close, but I think he's got it.
It doesn't matter. There's nothing that could be revealed about Trump that would put off many of his supporters - which of course reflects very badly on them.
The vast majority of people who care about racism, homophobia and transphobia and ableism in the US are ordinary Americans with the same daily struggles that you allude to. With the exception of W. Bush in 2001 the Repubicans haven't won the popular vote in decades Trump has lost by record amounts both times, that would suggest that the majority of Americans do not agree that Trump cares about their daily struggles...unless you're suggesting that every Democrat voter is some out of touch coastal elite.
Then of course we have the racial and ethnic minorites living in the US that are the victims of prejudice, the LGBT+ community and disabled people, the vast majority of which come from low income working class backgrounds. The prejudice they face is very much an every day issue for them but you very casually dismiss them all. Wanna tell some poor black kid in the South the racism he faces daily is not a big deal and anyone who cares about it is an out of touch elitish. How about telling a young girl who made a mistake and wants an abortion but can't get one that sexism isn't a problem.
The right does identity politics too. Their whole schtick about is constant pandering to straight, white, Christian males and their imagined problems. Not that they are above trotting out surrogates like Candace Owens, Milo Yiannopoulos to 'prove' they are not bigoted and be lecture us on how it's the left that are the real racists and homophobes. Trump has no shortage of celebrity surrogates either from Hulk Hogan, Kid Rock and Scott Baio and he has the biggest tech bro in Elon Musk using his vast resources to spread disinformation for him. I don't know how much more MSM you can get than Fox News who is the biggest and most well funded news channel in America (and also provably the most dishonest) not to mention the glut of 'alternative' media outlets that receive huge funding from shady characters Mercer's, the Koch Brothers (the still living ones anyway), Peter Thiel and of course the Russian Government.
I'm not exactly a fan of the Clintons or the Obamas but it's strange that you denounce them for not turning the US into a Utopia, Clinton presided one of the greatest economies in history and reduced the amount of Americans that had to use welfare to lowest levels in history. Obama rebuilt the economy after the crash and gave healthcare to millions who couldn't previously afford it. Those are fairly significant things which helped millions of every day Americans...what did Trump do? His one significant accomplishment is that gave tax breaks to millionaires. How did that help ordinary Americans? Trump is part of the elite who only serves the elite. He did nothing for ordinary Americans except pander to their prejudices.
Clinton's great economy was due to being in power at a good time, rather than his stewardship. He's no Lee Kuan Yew. It was the beginning of the digital era and the country had very good demographics, the economy would have done well regardless.
There's lots to be critical of Obamacare. It's one contributing factor to pushing up premiums and tens of millions still can't afford it. There's less choice of insurers now with about half of people only having one "choice", if you can only get Medicaid then it's about 40% of places that refuse it. Was all done with the best intentions, but it's a pretty impossible going against that industry.
I know it's very popular to say trump did nothing good and get's lots of agreement, but under his administration there were some pretty bad and pretty good things. It's not binary.
I genuinely can’t understand how anyone could vote for him, no point listing the reasons cause his hard core crew will still do it. He could r*pe someone on tv, wear a clan hood and they’d still do it.
For Americas sake (Ireland and Europes), I hope she pulls it off. The democrats made a mess of things not promoting her of having a proper candidate selection earlier, but we are where we are.
I think (and hope) she’ll do it, I think the fact so many women are out voting early it’ll be enough.
For Americas sake (Ireland and Europes), I hope she pulls it off. The democrats made a mess of things not promoting her of having a proper candidate selection earlier, but we are where we are.
I think (and hope) she’ll do it, I think the fact so many women are out voting early it’ll be enough.
The main takeaway I have heard from moderate Americans is that they had more money in their pockets under Trump and a lot of voters remember that, not sure if the data backs it up but if true, never underestimate that.
What I can't get my head around is how long the build up is to the US elections. Like over a year? In the UK, ours gets announced, often suddenly, we might have 2 months of canvassing, we vote, and then it's done. In America it's like you spend half of the term in office campaigning for the next one? I know America is much larger than the UK, I know you have lots of states but WHY is the election process so long and drawn out? In about a year and a half you'll start having all the buzz about the next one starting. It never seems to end, and I wonder if that's why American politics becomes far more polarised and personal for people (calling people evil and garbage etc), because it seems it's constantly being talked about? At least in UK there's a general feeling that the politicians are tit and we get on with our lives. Very very few turn up to hustings, we don't have stadiums full of rallies, we don't have Beyonce turning up to endorse, we don't have other has-been singers singing with very bad voice. The most that might happen is a celebrity might send a few tweets to endorse or attack a candidate. But in America, it seems the Dems and Republican thing is a cult thing - both sides being awful.
Trump is too old, looks like a cheesy poof crisp, and has done nefarious things, and Kamala is dumb as a box of rocks with the most awful nervous laugh and doesn't seem to know anything about anything. UK politicians aren't great either but compared, I feel like we get a better deal. And once the process is over we get on with our lives.
In the UK is is very easy and common to opt out of the politics completely if a person wishes to, whereas in America, from what I see online it seems it's inescapable.
Trump is too old, looks like a cheesy poof crisp, and has done nefarious things, and Kamala is dumb as a box of rocks with the most awful nervous laugh and doesn't seem to know anything about anything. UK politicians aren't great either but compared, I feel like we get a better deal. And once the process is over we get on with our lives.
In the UK is is very easy and common to opt out of the politics completely if a person wishes to, whereas in America, from what I see online it seems it's inescapable.
That's not an american issue. Inflation has hit many countries around the world. It was a global economic issue. But the US government and the central bank did a good job to halt the inflation spiral. Past periods of inflation have been much more dammaging. For instance the stagflation (inflation + economic recession) of the 70s have more consequential effects. I think we should not judge government for global events but how they react to it. For instance I don't blame Trump administration for the covid pandemic - that was unavoidable. What matters is the answer to it.
China - the main economic rival of the US - is doing not great even though they have been relatively spared from the covid mayhem. Youth unemployment is high (even though the government is doing its best to hide it), they have a disproportionate real estate park - which means it has not much value - which is a catastrophe for a country where most investments are tied to real estate and internal consumption is sluggish as people are struggling so China can only counts on exports. China is not affected by global issues but by internal issues stemming from bad policies.
The EU - another economic rival - is also not in a great shape. Average inflation has been higher than in the US. It has just avoided economic recession but growth is minimal. Its powerhouse - Germany - is in a sad state. Investments for infrastructure have been lacking since 2008 which hinders economic development. I often travel to Germany and I am shocked at how backwards is Germany on many aspects.
The US are doing fairly good when looking at the global picture. Could it be better? Sure. But within the global context it's not that bad. In our globalized world economic issues cannot be taken in isolation - solely focusing on internal policies.
My issue with Trump are not about the economy but how his presidency has changed the political landscape. Being civilized and respectimg your political opponent have been thrown out of the window. Trump has been constantly attacking his political opponents. Not on their ideas - as it should be in a functional democracy - but by using insults and an inflammatory rhetoric. Democracy is all about compromises and finding a common ground between people having different ideas on how things should be done. Under the leadership of Gingrinch Newt the Republicans have taken the approach that bipartisanship should be avoided at all costs. It has led to more and more divisive politics. Trump is the embodiement of that ideology and is a threat in a country as diverse as the US.
Kamala is educated though, she’s not dumb imo. Now I’m Irish but looking at Boris he was a bumbling idiot! An embarrassment on the political stage.
I think America is so divided now, it’s black or white, republicans or democrats etc. all this feeds into the elections. Thing is depending on who has majority in the house the president can end up with no power to do anything.
I think America is so divided now, it’s black or white, republicans or democrats etc. all this feeds into the elections. Thing is depending on who has majority in the house the president can end up with no power to do anything.
Anyone can be 'educated' but still incapable of answering a simple question about the policies they have supposedly been working on. Neither candidate seems to be able to answer questions properly. It's a massive mess. There is no 'light on' in either of their brains, imo.
Goes to show she's clueless when the teleprompter fails. She rarely can deliver a good speech even with all her experience.
Trump rambles on about nonsense.
Neither are suitable.
Who’s looking after America whilst Kamala is out on campaign and Biden is biting babies?
Would you not ask this question every time a sitting president runs for reelection?
To be fair it looks like she’s repeating a lot because the crowd is loud
This obsession with “good” speeches in the US generally feels so weird to me though, especially coming from the Trump side
Because it’s been ‘showbiz’ for a long time
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