jenny2603

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OK. I heard this second hand so may or may not be true but holy fuck it is substantially true in so far as it's the sort of thing she would do.

Anyway ages ago she was dating a guy and after seeing Fifty First Dates started faking having memory loss. Once getting up in the night screaming and demanding to know why he was in her house. She then had to explain her condition to him (like you wouldn't already have coping mechanisms in place which would deffo include warning people). He endured a few weeks of her suddenly claiming not to know who he was mid conversation and delivering some utterly dreadful "confused"acting before quietly dumping her. Oddly enough being dumped seemed to cure it and she's not been troubled since. Allegedly.
 
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Devorah

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Do you think she believes her own lies? Does she really believe she has all these degrees, or that she has autism, is Jewish etc? Or is she consciously lying?
No I don't think she believes it, it's almost like she can't help it though. I know that's an infuriating excuse but it's what I've had to kind of make peace with as I really can't explain it any other way

It sounds like you know her @Devorah in real life, or how would you know this all to be true?

Out me if you like guys, she's my sister and I've been dealing with this BS for 31 years

People who have a succession of partners coming in and out of their kids' lives irk me. It's okay to be single for six months!

Yup that's been one of the biggest issues for me. If she didn't have kids I wouldnt take such an interest but they have suffered
 
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HarderFaster

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God, this is the juiciest thread.

I would pay Patreon-style dollar for the same amount of input from those in-the-know on the Jack Monroe thread.
 
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The only one I didn’t know was her maiden name, the Leclerc is nonsense, so funny she’s double barrelled with the new husband’s name

ETA didn’t know ALL her maiden names 🤣
So I’ve been stalking about here all morning. Her most recent husband is an ex of mine. It seems they got together while I was still with him. He has also adopted the LeClerc name and they are both Laing-LeClerc now.
For a while I have wondered if he knows of her duality as I cared very much about him but he is a big boy. After we spilt and I discovered their relationship I was transported back to a late night conversation I had with him when we both discovered we each knew her from in and about the Glasgow ‘scene’. On his on volition he broke down why she ‘is the worst’ promenading as the working class leftie all the while owning two homes, one being the writing retreat. He went on to disparage the judaism as a way of claiming a new identity. Guess how surprised I was to find out they were engaged?!
 
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Veronicaaa

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A rather amusing excuse for getting out of a job in the past (just remembered this one 😂) was she said she had got her hand trapped in a meat grinder (as you do 😂) and lost her hand.
The 'Caroline has Hands' sequel we never knew we needed, and probably don't deserve 😂
 
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ihadamoonring

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I think we probably shouldn't be trying to identify accounts on here that might have to deal with some of these Vonnys in real life on a regular basis, if they don't want to out themselves we should leave it at that

Mind you I've got a fiver on this being another Vonny just in case
Agreed. Not everyone that’s in her life wants to be public with these sorts of things. As family I’m going to ask that we please refrain from speaking about the children. I’ve already stated the children and well looked after and it’s really inappropriate to be speaking about them on a gossip page. Also please don’t try and out people that want to remain anonymous. I’m happy enough for people to know I’m her sister but not everyone in her life wants to be outed. Let’s just keep this for amusement on the nonsense she does and how ridiculous her personas are. Nobody needs to know the entire ins and outs of our personal lives.
 
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Veronicaaa

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i am being honest when i say that i have literally never heard of this person before seeing her mentioned in the jack threads but now i am very intrigued...but i still don't understand how she's famous?!
Scotland's a small place really, and she's been making a tit of herself on its cultural landscape for a good few years now.

ETA - FOUND IT! (For context, Vonny shared this text her sister sent her on twitter, I think she thought she was going to elicit sympathy about how nasty her sister was?? In reality, everyone was like HIGH FIVE VONNY'S SISTER!!)

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tippingpoint

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You know what’s breaking my heart because I’m a big softie? The thought that someone might have taken months or years to build up enough courage to go to a fetish night / sex club, donned their wee cowboy hat and vest then saw themselves dragged publicly 😭😭😭
 
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passthecanapes

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She's wafted in and out of the liberal Jewish community in Edinburgh for the past few years, so my first encounter with her was actually not via the media or anything but rather as the new goth-looking girl I saw at one of the events. Her face did ring a bell though, and when I was looking at a copy of The National a week later and saw her face on the strapline I realized who she was. I did wonder a bit at the time why she was there, but I figured she was maybe Jewish but didn't shout about it or getting married to someone and converting... while this sounds like a sexist assumption, the majority of converts to Judaism in liberal communities are women getting married. It's just a fact. Men are less common due to the fact that a certain famous Jewish operation is expected.

She did put in the occasional appearance at events I went to. I don't attend too often, but at a few times I was there and she was there, and then the whole Jewish thing appeared on social media.

I remember her saying that she’d had the honour of performing a role in a play for a particular event in the Jewish calendar. I can’t remember who the woman she played was although apparently her son yelled “yeah she’s a feminist” during the performance.
She played Vashti, the first wife of King Ahaseureus in a Purimshpiel, which is a play commemorating the Jewish festival of Purim. I'm not going to go into the where and why of it all (hence the wiki links) but in the traditional story Vashti is banished for refusing to display herself for the King and his court's pleasure, and for this in Judaism is considered something of a feminist icon. She did indeed play Vashti in said play according to an email newsletter I got, but I didn't attend the purimshpiel. The "yeah Vashti is a feminist" could have happened, or couldn't have.

Based on what you’ve said it sounds like this story must be completely fabricated because you couldn’t possibly get to the stage of performing with a congregation without the official conversion process?
It depends on the community. The Orthodox community is much more tightly knit and doesn't have many (if any) members that aren't Jewish, but Vonny did befriend some people in the liberal community and thus was allowed to take part in the purimshpiel. Purimshpiels have a tradition of being a very silly and satirical play, so really it doesn't matter whether anyone is Jewish or not. What is restricted is doing things during the service such as carrying the Torah or being called up to do the prayers before the Torah is read (called an aliyah). I've seen her when I've gone to some services on and off over the past few years, but never ever being called up. These things are called mitzvot and considered an honour in a Jewish community.

There are a fair few people I knew of converting in the liberal community, however of course none of them would ever be called. That's what I said about the "practising Judaism for herself" bit. She does have some Jewish communal involvement, but is not Jewish. Someone in the process of converting can appear to be Jewish (i.e. reading Hebrew) but until they go through the final conversion rites isn't considered Jewish ritually by the community. And like I've said before, usually when a convert becomes officially Jewish it's celebrated by the community as a whole, but I can't recall any mention of it.

Like I've said: if she wants to practise Judaism as her religion quietly that's fine. But grandstanding "as a Jew" on social media? Not cool. Until she takes a dunk in the mikveh, as kosher as a pork sausage.
 
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Devorah

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Just wanted to say thanks for joining here and speaking out. Despite what people may think not every thread on here is a hate filled spite fest. X
That's appreciated thank you! I've been reading for a while and thinking of posting but doing so when emotionally driven wasn't the best idea.

I'm finding myself defending her even though I'm probably one of the people she has screwed over most in life. Although we are estranged I obviously don't wish her any harm, just that she gets help and it can be hard reading all these things even though they are true and I agree. It's A tough read when people don't know her or what she's put us through but hopefully it helps people understand things...ish 😂

So much love to you @Devorah. What a thing to go through. Giving you all my support that there is a just outcome to all this! It It says a lot about you to still see your sister as someone vulnerable. xx
Thank you! My Twitter outing of her BS is your name haha, that whole meme it was turned into ended me 😂
 
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Veronicaaa

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What would be the rule here for posting a rumour that you've no reason to doubt but don't have any receipts for? I was told something very funny a while back that would be relevant but I've no way of verifying it.
Think the rule is that you're not allowed to tease us like this and will be banned if you don't spill the tea.

 
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tippingpoint

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As someone with tiny eyes I’m affronted such a disingenuous person was gifted so much lid space. Enjoy your perfectly displayed wings ya fucking...liar woman.
 
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Devorah

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Oh there's even worse than that, trust me, but I won't get in to them all.

She tried to get me charged for saying she wasn't Jewish on Twitter and it was actually going to be court until they realised I was her sister and telling the truth. She had implied I was a random lady giving her racial abuse online, so the police weren't best pleased about that with her wasting their time.
I'm sure there's other police incidents but none that I can think of right now.

A rather amusing excuse for getting out of a job in the past (just remembered this one 😂) was she said she had got her hand trapped in a meat grinder (as you do 😂) and lost her hand. Most would fake a cold or something. I found out as I got a job at the same place and they asked me how she was after her horrific accident.

Holy fucking shit!
Have her lies ever got her in real trouble - with the police for example?
 
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Veronicaaa

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This is insane, and she really hasn't done none of these things? Holy fuck..
Yeah and there was also a time when she seemed to consider herself an author despite never having written any books.

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ETA I guess my point is, how is she not ashamed of herself?! It’s why I love seeing the occasional comments from her sisters, getting her telt!
Here's a wee extra from one of Vonny's sister's throwaway accounts which occasionally pop up.

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Devorah

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I have no idea! I've never met him but had shitty messages from him in the past coming to her defence when I had outed her BS on Twitter.

They married after knowing each other less than a year so I'm sure she hid some of the crazy but he really must just be turning a blind eye or perhaps he's just as bad. I always wondered what her partners thought but maybe she hides posts from them?

A friend of mine actually grew up with him and he was known to be liar and fantasist then so maybe he's just as bad

What does her husband make of this? I’m fascinated by their relationship. He is on Instagram, he must see her posting this stuff. He must know it’s bollocks - does he worry about that? Does he try to get her the help she needs? Or does he just turn a blind eye to it all?
Can confirm that none of it is. Literally none.

I wonder if any tiny thing in her life is in at all grounded in fact. Anything.

She isn’t even a parody.
I have no idea! I've never met him but had shitty messages from him in the past coming to her defence when I had outed her BS on Twitter.

They married after knowing each other less than a year so I'm sure she hid some of the crazy but he really must just be turning a blind eye or perhaps he's just as bad. I always wondered what her partners thought but maybe she hides posts from them?

A friend of mine actually grew up with him and he was known to be liar and fantasist then so maybe he's just as bad



Can confirm that none of it is. Literally none.
I have no idea! I've never met him but had shitty messages from him in the past coming to her defence when I had outed her BS on Twitter.

They married after knowing each other less than a year so I'm sure she hid some of the crazy but he really must just be turning a blind eye or perhaps he's just as bad. I always wondered what her partners thought but maybe she hides posts from them?

A friend of mine actually grew up with him and he was known to be liar and fantasist then so maybe he's just as bad



Can confirm that none of it is. Literally none.
She lies to every partner of course, about why's she's estranged from the family etc, usually saying it's because they don't accept her aspergers or Judaism conversion.

Though her first bf (who she lied to pretending she was a dr, going as far as to buy scrubs and pretending to go to hospital everyday ((also claiming she was 26 when was in actual fact 17)) was told that her mum left her on a door step when she was a baby and she was brought up by grandparents. Imagine his dismay when they went to visit the grandparents and her mum showed up too 🙈 it all got worse from there really
 
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Here's a thing... Vonny posts photos of her husband, and her children, recently a colleague, and, of course, thousands of photos of herself.

But no friends. Never a mention of any. No photos of nights out with them pre-Covid. The Eurovision and poker night photo ops are her, hubbie, and children.

Does she have any close friends? Is someone whose life is a lie capable of having any successful friendships?
The reality is, she's good company. Vonny in real life is nothing like online Vonny. She's certainly not the pale-faced flawless made-up goddess she wants to project—she's entirely normal, she's not flawless, she gurns when she talks, she's awkward, she's self deprecating. And I mean that all in a good way. She's bright, she's funny, she's alright, and it's baffling that's not enough for her. So anyway you see her about socially, meet for group drinks a couple of times, shared interests, you know. Then the dramas begin. Then the tales that make no sense. Then the backtracking and the lies. You joke amongst your other pals about what she's said or done now, but you feel bad about it because that's a really shitty way to be friends with someone. So you distance yourself because it's not fair, delete her from social media, and then the slow realisation dawns that she's mentally ill and maybe you should have said or done something, but you're not really equipped to deal with it. But Scotland is small, and time and time again over the next decade she turns up wearing a new skin, and on every occasion you get less sympathetic and more pissed off with the lies. You anticipate some sort of comeuppance, but it never comes. It's to my shame that I'm even here, but that's how it is, and I'm sure it's a very common social trajectory.
 
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Veronicaaa

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OK. I heard this second hand so may or may not be true but holy fuck it is substantially true in so far as it's the sort of thing she would do.

Anyway ages ago she was dating a guy and after seeing Fifty First Dates started faking having memory loss. Once getting up in the night screaming and demanding to know why he was in her house. She then had to explain her condition to him (like you wouldn't already have coping mechanisms in place which would deffo include warning people). He endured a few weeks of her suddenly claiming not to know who he was mid conversation and delivering some utterly dreadful "confused"acting before quietly dumping her. Oddly enough being dumped seemed to cure it and she's not been troubled since. Allegedly.
I've actually heard this story before and I can't even remember who told me, so pretty sure that 2 separate sources make it OFFICIALLY VERIFIED!.
 
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