Sally-Ann

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Am I right that they only got this because the claims were so strong? Then they were never tested to see if there was any truth to their claims that Sally Anne was stalking and harassing. Any evidence of 5 police warnings?

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Hi, I’ve been made aware of this and just want to keep my name clear 🙂

Jess (& Jaimi even though I only ever responded to a message she sent me first 🙄) pushed WYP to apply for an SPO against me. I was advised at the initial stage WYP can apply without providing evidence, just from the ‘victims’ statements and to be fair my twitter use was a lot because of how they’d affected my mental health, This was fine - my solicitor advised we will contest the application in court, I appeared in court to literally state my name, whilst my solicitor contested the SPO application and stated we would need a full day in court for me to present my evidence to contest allegations against me and for an SPO. The court accepted this and scheduled a full day in court for 6 months time, this was to give both legal teams time to complete a legal bundle of evidence and swap evidence before the new court date.
I was advised and agreed that in the mean time I should accept an INTERIM SPO, which is standard in these cases. It was a very easy, limited SPO - had to say I wouldn’t make any contact with Jess/Jaimi, give police names of all my social media platforms and not post online and meet with an officer a couple of times to ‘check in’
It was all agreed that actually all this would work in my favour as it would prove I’m not doing what I’m being accused of and that I’m ‘complying’.
nothing really changed - my solicitor gathered evidence, the police officer had to check in with was LOVELY. It actually gave me some well needed breathing space.
WYP were given dates by the court to provide their evidence to each allegation made on the Original SPO application - they failed to meet two deadlines so my solicitor took them back to court, in which they cancelled the application for an SPO. They provided no evidence at all to back up Jess/Jaimi claims.
Ironically when they must have received this news, they both went on an online rampage about me, and ended up jeopardising their whole case even more. I have since had a formal apology from the police.
i did at the time agree to sign an undertaking by the police to say I’d never contact Jess/jaimi, again this worked highly in my favour as I wasn’t contacting them anyway, and proved I wasn’t what they were saying I was.
Nothing has affected me at all the undertaking expired a while back with no issues at all.
I have nothing at all against me.

to put it bluntly, Jess lied to the police to get me silenced. There were many lies we could easily prove, including this scorcher, that I actually showed to the police and their face dropped.
she told them she cancelled an event as she was ‘too scared to go’ … look who’s photod at the event
 

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Boogs

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I think this is a perfect quote for her next thread title.

A triumph of shallow knowledge and ambition over ability.

After I read it last night I was thinking how can we get as many people to read this as possible. Wake up this morning to see it pinned at the top of the page ❤
 
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A few have asked for these to be re-posted:



Any thoughts would be welcome in this thread.

If you've never read this thread before, you can quickly get up to speed by clicking the "most liked posts" button on each thread.
 
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It surprises me any 1 star reviews remain online as I remember with her recent publications any negative reviews were reported and removed.

That book wasn’t her first foray into the world of self publishing. She self published this book back in 2011 when she was only 20 under her married name.
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This is my favourite review of one of her books as someone seemingly didn’t realise it would show who the Goodreads account holder was 😂

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This comment sounds legit: https://kerrydaynes.substack.com/p/click-lie-repeat-inside-the-claims/comment/264722550

I'm a previous employee.

During my short time at victim focus I raised several concerns:

I gently challenged her about the way her and her partner spoke about Sally Ann and laughed about harming her. I questioned the language she was using to describe Sally Ann- misogynistic and cruel.

I raised a gentle concern in conversation about her personal social media content and how it would reflect poorly on her company Victim Focus.

I was concerned about her "professional" move away from trauma-informed work to the world of "anti-medicine". She was giving staff and followers overly confident- and in my view dangerous and unqualified advice that "medication" (she is vague) is bad. Of course there are valid concerns around misdiagnosis, medical misogyny and over prescribing- but her advice was broad, clumsy and beyond her professional qualifications. The result? Her followers- and some staff- some very vulnerable- coming off their medication in a sudden and unmanaged way. It is my personal belief that we will never know how many women will have slipped into a mental health crisis by following her advice. We will never know the harm they will have experienced and the far reaching impacts of her snake oil advice.

As a result of raising concerns I was sacked, underpaid and reported to the police for stalking. There was no evidence and no action taken against me.

This was incredibly distressing and silencing. I am a victim-survivor of domestic abuse, sexual abuse and stalking by an ex partner. I would hazard a guess that because of the nature of her projects- that the majority of her staff and followers are- So to find myself victim of a vexatious and entirely fabricated claim that I was stalking and harassing her was incredibly distressing and triggering. In this regard, her pattern of accusing victim-survivors of being perpetrators feels intentional.

When working for Victim Focus I had access to her personal and professional social media accounts. My experiences of the messages she received do not align with her narrative of harassment.

During my time at Victim Focus I saw no targeted abuse via direct messages or on in her comments sections. I saw unpleasant comments on social media threads- but nothing crossing that line. I of course understand, especially as a woman, Taylor is subject to online misogyny. This is unacceptable and a damaging aspect of the online world. However, I saw no evidence of targeted abuse or credible threats. Accuracy matters.

She encourages staff and followers to disclose abuse (whether this is domestic, sexual or childhood abuse). In my view, she uses this to accelerate and foster trust and a sense of bonding with individual women. She then exploits this- either over working and underpaying staff, or encouraging followers to repeat her fictional claims about group stalking. The impact of this manipulation on her victims and those being targetted should not be underestimated.

Worryingly, the police have been poor in understanding the wider pattern- Taylor using vexatious complaints of stalking to silence whistleblowers. She has been awarded lucrative training contracts by (two?) police forces. I therefore suspect that an investigation into her would reflect badly on the police and those who commissioned her. This is speculation- but at the very least her work for various police forces has the optics of lending credibility to her claims of being stalked.

Thank you for writing this blog. Do not underestimate the depth, extent and consequences of her abusive behaviour -specifically her ill-informed guidance/ content around suicide and encouraging medicated people to stop taking their treatments.

It sends my body cold simply thinking about this.

I hope Sally Ann is reading this. When I started working at Victim Focus I initially believed what my employer, Taylor told me- that Sally Ann was an obsessive and didn't feature in her book. When it soon became apparent that this was not the case, I challenged Taylor.

I have subsequently apologised directly to Sally Ann and told her she has my unwavering support. I have huge admiration for her patience and strength. If she is reading this I would like her to know that she is hugely admired by so many- not just for how she has dealt with being victimised by Taylor- but for the compassionate and resilient woman that she is.

Thank you again for writing this.
 
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Sally-Ann

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I was very fortunate, The court, police & solicitor all treated me very well.
I only had to say my name in court and the 3 magistrates that where there let me leave early as realised it was stressful then smiled and thanked me. They then spoke to my parents and support worker who were also there and thanked them for coming to support me. My parents replied ‘we wouldn’t be anywhere else.’
We often joke how it’s very strange for parents to be ‘proud’ of their daughter going to court 😅😂

I had the best support and from people who didn’t even know me but had seen stuff online who wrote statements about how they saw for themselves how J&J treating me. I feel extremely overwhelmed with love and support and I still can’t believe now how much people helped me.

I also had a well known TV channel write a statement in support of me due to an accusation that I’d lost Jess a job with them.

ironically we were all actually abit gutted we didn’t have that full day in court to present everything evidence wise, as so much would have come out.
In terms of the crime stuff, I was never arrested, agreed to all interviews. I was very open and honest. My solicitor told me she is often working to avoid court for clients - but actually mine would have been a case that would have worked really well in my favour for court as lots of things Jess/J lied about and did to me would be laid out. But it’s all still there and waiting for when the time is right.

i was drained to be honest so glad deep down that wasn’t the case. I’d already been healed so much by the pours of love and support - that genuinely shocked me and made me realise the good in so many people and proffesionals again.
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So much love for the piece, not least the thorough, professional care (you don’t know them, Jess) shown at the very end
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Kerry, know, if we could, your substack likes would be rising higher, were it possible, than the dodgy doc’s self regard 👏
 
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Jessterday

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Came across this thread from elsewhere and decided to join the site.

I used to work at VF. Jess is totally a grandiose narcissist, who purposely employs women on benefits in order to extract unpaid labour out of them. I left the org and moved into a different field of work entirely in order to get away from her. Blocked her everywhere. She still has flying monkeys keep an eye on my social media. She's a bad human being.
 
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HotesTilaire

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Do they really think that because they post every detail of their family life, home, location etc that they somehow “deserve” ours?

Do they really think that because people (not just tattlers) report them for sharing information about themselves publicly like recording/talking on their phone whilst driving, or neglecting their children’s needs, or undeclared ads, which can affect their income (because it’s wrong, not because it was Reported) which affects their earnings, they can go to our employers and get us sacked?

I don’t know the reasons why SB wasn’t named on the company records, but isn’t it a total case in point as to why he wouldn’t want to be? They didn’t uncover his identity then pursue him through the proper channels (I.e. serve him to appear in court) they went after his family, elderly parents, child relatives, some woman in North London, deprived him of access to funds for months and years, doxxing Yel, making internet threats against his website users (tattlers) doxxing them, inboxing people legal threats, offering “immunity” then doxxing, slating SB and his business all over mainstream media reducing the business income…he hasn‘t even broken a law.

Hey influencers - YOUR sort of behaviour is why WE don't publicise who we are. Really, who are the trolls In this scenario?
 
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Sally-Ann

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Of course this was all rewritten and exaggerated by Jess & Jaimi to suit their narratives, same old story 🙄
difference is I come with receipts
 
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Am I understanding this correctly- she is saying that two “tattle users” have been convicted of stalking in the crown court, but because the victims said “Please don’t release their names”, the courts have gone “Oh, all right then, we’ll keep it secret until you’re ready, no worries”. This doesn’t happen!

For someone who claimed to have been running various courts throughout her illustrious career, she sure does seem to be a stranger to the concept of ”open justice”. Justice has to be seen to be done. This is foundational. The outcome of whoever has been convicted of stalking in a court is a matter of public record. It can be reported on by whoever, wherever. It can’t be kept secret.

Unless, of course…it only happened in the Jess’ Fisher Price Realistic Play Court, where Chief Justice Teddy and Justice Tiny Tears rule with an iron fist and mean, nasty tattlers get sent to jail for a long long time, under the bed with the dust bunnies.

Come the fuck on.
 
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AccidentalAcademic

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Says it all that the daily mail and the sands PR haven't said anything about a police man convicted with a suspended sentence for stalking on tattle. They would be all over it and there would be a public record.

It's never just a normal person with her unverified claims. Always police, NHS doctor, etc
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Dr Huda retweeted a post by a man with bipolar disorder who was very upset by Jessica's blithe theories that mental illness doesn't exist. This man once jumped off the roof of his house when he was experiencing psychosis and he knows he's lucky to be alive, so he understandably reacts badly to the condescending suggestion that mental illness doesn't exist, medication doesn't really work and patients like him are only imagining the benefits, and that they just don't realise they're having normal human emotions in response to trauma that they don't understand. He wrote an angry response to one of Jessica's trademark pontifications that ended with the words, "Fuck you in the arse with a barbed pole."

If Jessica had one one-tenth of the trauma-informed psychological knowledge that she claims to have, she'd understand exactly why a person in his shoes might find it - dare I say it - traumatic for a self-described expert to be so dismissive of an illness that lies outside her professional and personal experience, but that he has to live with every day. An illness that has nearly killed him several times. I also think most reasonable people would interpret what he wrote as a vicious insult rather than as actively planning or soliciting violence.

Dr Huda thought better of retweeting this almost immediately, because of the graphic insult. He also reached out to the OP and encouraged him to delete the tweet altogether and apologise to Jess. The OP removed the tweet, but at first he declined to apologise. His exact words were, "I should not have said what I did, but I'll apologise only when she apologises for denying my reality & perpetuating stigma." Later on he changed his mind and did apologise.

Notice how Jessica leaves this context out of every retelling. Either she doesn't see how it's relevant, which is a pretty damning indictment of her understanding of trauma and mental distress, or she's fully aware that she doesn't come out of it looking great and she wants to airbrush out the pesky details that suggest she's anything other than a courageous speaker of truth to power. In this case, the pesky details are a human being with a serious illness that has caused him huge amounts of trauma, but he's been turned into grist for the grifting mill.

Dr Huda only had a warning placed on his public GMC record for two years because the GMC presumably did consider the context, including the fact that Dr Huda had immediately deleted his retweet once he realised the full import of it and actively encouraged the OP to apologise without having to be asked by anyone. Both he and the original poster displayed a level of honesty and accountability that's alien to Jess.
 
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Sally-Ann

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I’m genuinely in a place where it doesn’t bother me anymore. I know many people say that, but I’ve had a lot of help, a lot of reflection and support. My actions weren’t perfect and were led by trauma responses that I’m not proud of. But my actions have been emphasised and exploited. I was in a very dark place trying to fight for myself and being constantly triggered by a power struggle which I didn’t deal with in the best way. However I always maintain that I made no threats, no personal info comments and only told the truth and documented online my feelings I was so overwhelmed by other people contacting me saying they’d experienced the same, I got extremely overwhelmed. I will openly and always say I didn’t always handle things in the best way, but now after seeking support I have the tools to manage this so much better and also to not give my power away. I’ve also had amazing support from a stalking charity who put to the police I had been groomed, and they’ve supported me through that realisation too and my reactions when she exploited my story.

She can’t ever never get what she truly wants or feels she’s needs from me.
I think further exploitation of the situation a books whatever now shows so much more about her than anything else. She thinks it will hurt me, but honestly it will prove my position even more,
She’s exposed herself now in many ways and she’s just wanting someone now as a scapegoat or to blame, that seems to be me 🤷‍♀️

So many people now can see through her perceived image and presence.
I know I sound like her when I say this, but I genuinely have so many messages, my solicitor got so many statements from actual psychologists, stalking charity CEO’s, researchers, academics etc. who saw what was going on and raised safeguarding concerns about me and wrote in support of me.
There’s also been amazing groups of women/men who have spent so much time time supporting me and sticking up for me. I was absolutely shocked that people who didn’t even know me took time out to support me and to stick up for ethics.

Writing on here now is genuinely the most time I’ve spent on this in ages. What happened hasn’t affected my ability to volunteer, work or keep doing activist work.
My energy has gone into recognising my trauma response and my triggers to injustice and power imbalances.

I take SO much away from this situation, I take so much love and courage that i was supported so much. It’s still extremely heartwarming. I don’t need ‘justice’ anymore because I’m getting it by seeing her just continuously exposing herself now even more. Shes in a small part of the internet shouting and lying, she chooses to use that energy, leave them too it,

Time is amazing and it can heal and also expose.
It will happen again to someone else, and it will keep happening over and over unfortunately.

I don’t want to spend anymore time on this, but again thank you so much for all the support ❤
 
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In my job I'm basically a professional bullshit detector. I have to balance evidence and reach a decision on what has most likely happened in a situation and why. And there are certain kinds of people I talk to every day. Some will tell you their story, and talk about the series of events impacted them, and how they feel about it. And it's often very upsetting stuff. And then you look at the evidence, and it's often so much worse than they've told you.

And then there's another kind of person who sets off the alarm in my brain, and they will tell a similar story, but rather than the story being offered as information, it's more like, "this extraordinary thing happened to me, and therefore I am uniquely correct/persecuted/special/clever/insightful". And then you look at the evidence, and the story is rarely the one they have told, and sometimes it's actually the opposite, in that they are either not being entirely truthful, or they are the author of their own misfortune.

Look at every single story Jess tells, about herself or others. They're never presented as information. She doesn't share a single narrative, no matter how dramatic or mundane, where she isn't the victim, the hero, the survivor, the expert, the truth-teller, the authority, the only person who sees what's really going on.

I'm a feminist, and think that extending empathy and the benefit of the doubt to people is generally a good thing, so when women tell stories about their lives, I usually believe them.

But once you see this strategy of sharing an ostensibly traumatic story as a self-aggrandising tool, you can't unsee it. There has never been a single second where she talks about a scenario with any nuance. It is always a hot take or high drama event that proves that she is uniquely special in some way. And it's used specifically as a way to create false intimacy with her often quite vulnerable audience who are navigating their own trauma and desperately looking for answers and community. It's manipulative disclosure, sort of "because I told you this, you now owe me trust/exemption from scrutiny, and also, look how special I am!"

Really makes you think.
 
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I know nothing really about this person, except that she's trying to take Tattle down (sure hun) and I have never commented on this thread but I just read Kerry Daynes' Substack post, linked at the top of the site today, and realise that I have been quoted (about her big hair) 😂 I just had to share that!

If you're reading, I do love you really Kerry. Us North West gingers need to stick together! 🧡
 
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Sally-Ann

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Hi everyone,
I’ve know about this for a long time but only had a proper in depth look through the last few days,
ive been struggling to see photos of her etc. so I’ve avoided looking.

But I have been kept updated with any supportive messages that’s been posted here.
I just wanted to say for myself I am SO thankful. Knowing people have seen this for what it is and stood by me, believed me, it truly means a lot! I’ve felt validated because somtimes I have questioned myself & felt really paranoid.
I just really wanted everyone who is supporting me know I am genuinely so thankful & that support has helped me see there are many decent professionals/people who would never dream of doing what she’s done.

I’m also standing with and feel love towards those who have said they’ve been affected by her too.

There’s some other avenues I can explore to try be heard. But at the same time the fact people are now talking about it, seen my evidence & shared their own stories is incredible. Please keep talking about this within your networks - because ultimately too it’s not just about me, I am so terrified other survivors/victims stories can be easily exploited. I’m terrified they will be retraumatised like I have. Consent, clear consent, informed consent is incredibly important, more so to abuse survivors. I also fear the gaslighting, bullying etc. survivors may face like I have. I am fortunate I’ve had support to recognise that behaviour from JT, but they’ll be many who won’t and that’s incredibly dangerous. It truly makes me sick to my stomach the hypocrisy, the denial, the fraud. It scares me that the ones who look up to her are looking up to an abuser. All she and VF project, talk about and preach, when they do the opposite. It’s dark and it’s incredibly concerning.

I’ve come across people who’ve said they’re ashamed they were ‘sucked in’. Please don’t be, it’s not your fault. Abusers know how to manipulate. People have also said they’re ashamed because they’ve hurt me for initially supporting her. Please know I don’t see it like that. I trusted her, I was sucked in, that’s why I shared my story in the first place. What matters now is you do everything in your power to help survivors stay away from her and VF.

I was so terrified when I got the response from the BPS, I was terrified it meant no one believed me, that it made me look like a liar. I have no idea why the BPS didn’t do anything - only that she will have had a full legal team, they’ll be loop holes everywhere. It made me so glad I’d posted it all online, cos I’d have been completely silenced otherwise.

Again, I am truly thankful and humbled. Who would have thought little old me would cause such a thing but also be backed by people who don’t even know me?! It’s really what’s kept me going and kept me alive to put it bluntly.
Take care x[/B]
 
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