Doc

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God there's s some arseholes commenting on DM articles. The one about the Jack Jones twitter vid has a comment saying MM was an ambitious 20 year old and knew PS was married so we shouldn't feel sorry for him. What do people not get about the fact that it's PS in the wrong and he's bloody groomed MM. I'm raging. I'm really struggling with the fact that so many people are not able to see what's staring them in the face.
The core fan base of PS is middle aged women who aren’t very bright and get all their information from Facebook. They share stories of lost dogs in Wisconsin amongst their friends in Grantham. They view Ant and Dec as their sons and have daydreams of Bradley Walsh flirting with them over a “cheeky” glass of Prosecco in Marbella.

They hate their husbands and have religiously been at Slimming World since 1998, successfully gaining 12lbs during that time.
 
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explodeyourgoss

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Just started watching the Amol interview... Opening question from Amol: "how are you?".... Big dramatic pause, pretend swallowing of tears, pause, "I understand how Caroline Flack felt..." On and on he goes, fairly incomprehensible stuff, bad acting... Then Amol asks "Do you feel up to doing the interview?" and he says "Yeh".

So ok "yeh" I feel genuinely broken and suicidal but I'll still give an informal "yeh" to doing a public interview as if this is the easiest thing in the world. Come off it! It's the equivalent of a liar who smiles slightly after telling a lie: the satisfaction of getting away with it. Here, Schofield says "yeh" casually because he is saying "I'm a professional interviewer, I know what I'm doing, I'm a legend at this. I'm going to convince you I'm innocent. Let's go..."

Odious. Utterly, utterly odious.

Terrible acting of the worst kind.

This is, in my opinion, someone who is deeply narcissistic. It is someone who, not having their way, they threaten violence against themselves. They want to manipulate and gaslight you, the kind of people who say "you leave me and I'll kill myself..."

He's talking about following thousands of people on Twitter, as if that dilutes his relations with the boy he choose to interact with: yes, Schofield, but this is about a very specific relationship you developed with an underage boy. You can ameliorate this issue by suggesting that MM could just as easily have been anyone, that this was random, that MM was drawn from a lottery of thousands and not from your predilection for younger men/boys but we don't believe you (remembering that he more or less admits he prefers younger men because of his comparisons between how he has been treated and how Leonardo DiCaprio is treated for his preferences).

"41 years in television. No accusations. This is all, you know, accusations." Um, no it is NOT just accusations is it???!!! This is actually you admitteding to developing a relationship with someone who you first knew through inviting him into ITV Studios. From Twitter to ITV Studios. Not a girl. Not a fat 30 year-old hairy man. Not a 19 year-old lesbian who wants to get into TV. An underage boy. It happened to be the young boy among all the "thousands" who you interact with on social media who you invited in. Coincidence that MM fitted your preference and he wanted a job? No.

And notice how he says "no accusations" in 41 years, not the more straightforward and clear "I've done nothing like this before." He speaks of accusations not of his specific behaviours. This shows the ego of the man. He avoids using simple, direct answers that would support his claim that he has hitherto been whiter than white. If I ask a thief if they've ever stolen anything previously and they say "I've not been convicted before" then this is obviously avoiding my question. Schofield avoids the question.

He talks about how "nobody knew" about he and MM but that "someone" had to know in order for there to be rumours. He's asked again a minute later if anybody knew and he says, with great certainty, "nobody knew". Well, you cannot advertise self-knowledge that people must have known because there were rumours but then also deny that knowledge by saying that nobody knew... The contradictions are various. He's been caught asserting something he knows, by his own words, cannot have been true: of course people knew, it was an open secret. Tattlers have known for years. He's openly lying.

He says that MM "wants all this to go away", which is Schofield using MM to emotionally blackmail people: to say, you hurt me, but you're hurting MM at the same time. Let us just move on, take the focus off us. So if he knows that MM wants this to go away, then he is saying he is either in contact with MM or feels still so connected to him that he feels he can talk on his behalf: more likely, he is just being manipulative, knowing that MM is too weak to talk out. He is betting the house and what remains of his career on MM not speaking out. He is still using MM for his own ends.

"It was a totally innocent Twitter follow, of which I follow 11,400 people [strange how he knew that exact figure, he has carefully rehearsed his rhetoric], and then it was a completely innocent backwards and forwards [with MM] over a period of time about a job, about careers. What's wrong with talking to someone no matter what age they are?". Here he is deliberately showcasing a naive and reductive view of 'grooming' that suits his purposes, because grooming doesn't start with flirting or overt criminality, it starts as ordinary conversation to build up trust. No one is saying that Schofield said inappropriate things to MM in Twitter.

The accusation is that Schofield spent an unusual amount of time and focus on MM, a young boy, which, outside Twitter, went beyond just talking about careers in a casual, temporary and limited way. It led to a job, to proximity to Schofield and to physicality. He doesn't appear to accept at all that grooming is what he has done in taking an underage boy from Twitter to his dressing room (albeit once the boy was of age - perhaps) and that the grooming started on Twitter with an underage boy. It matters not if they got physical only once MM was of age. The grooming started when he was underage. It's a distinction Schofield obviously wouldn't countenance.

Notice how he could easily have said "I give out advice about the TV industry to dozens of people through the year. I've messaged with many girls, boys, of all ages, I try to be helpful". He doesn't say this because it's not true. He focussed mainly on MM and perhaps other people (boys) he doesn't want to admit to messaging because it would take away from his narrative of innocence. And we know he interacted with other boys.

Innocent people, as Judge Judy says, don't have to think: if you tell the truth, you don't have to think. You just tell the truth. This interview is the opposite of that. He was carefully crafting every sentence. The self-dramatising "I know how Caroline Flack felt" is disrespectful to the dead and her family. It is a wilful manipulation not just of the public, but of his old colleagues and a career which he thinks he stands some chance of restoring once his mea culpa has been broadcast.

This is also a manipulation of what it means to be a human being. I quite understand that it is possible to not think romantically about a young person, but then get attracted to them later when they mature: but MM is notably young-looking and never turned, overnight, from a callow youth to a bearded bloke. It just didn't happen that way. MM looked young for his age, and I don't believe that Schofield had absolutely no feelings until, one day, in his dressing room, "something happened" as if he was surprised by his desire. I don't believe it just got switched on one eventful day once MM matured. This is the same Schofield who, Holmes is happy to broadcast to the nation, was not widely liked, did not know the names of staff on the show. And yet, and yet he makes the effort not only to bring MM into ITV Studios but also spends considerable time with him. And we're supposed to believe the physicality was entirely out of the blue! More like out of the blue tick of Twitter....

We need more facts, sure, but to judge from this interview, Schofield is covering up the bigger story. I've spend considerable time listening to people and reading between lines in the work that I do. I know no more about any of this than most of us here. I have no particular insight, but if this was a HR issue before me now, like dozens of HR issues I've dealt with in my career, Schofield would have been fired years ago.
 
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SkippyDoo

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My gf (we are a lesbian couple, for context) has just got to the claim of homophobia part of the interview, looked at me and rolled her eyes.

Piss off Phil, with that. Keep gay people out of your mouth you nasty piece of work. I’ve got nothing in common with you.
 
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What with this and Eamonn getting ready to spill the tea - I'm bloody living. Let me crack open the whisky, because it's going to be one hell of a night!
 
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JRH2022

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Did he have sex with anyone under 18? No evidence of that at all. Yes he lied and cheated but no evidence he had sex with someone underage and it is potentially libel to say so so I suggest you stop it
Here comes crisis management
 
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youncer

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His threatening suicide is despicable. If he was on suicide watch then why is he not being signed in to a psychiatric unit. People with a true suicide risk are not doing media interviews.
 
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grace28

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Sorry if this has been missed surley this is the biggest issue now.

I don't see how This Morning has any integrity left as a serious broadcaster when other high profile presenters are clear that those at the top knew. All those young sexual assault and grooming victims that shared thay stories in the last 18 months have been let down.
 

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Mediamyster

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I’m cautious of writing this contribution here, been observing events here the last week or so, only contributed to stick up for GB News I must say. I’ve a lot to thank them for, for keeping this story running and giving me a bit of confidence to face a few things regarding this.
Can any Tattlers help me. I’ve actually got some information regarding PS, I’m not sure what’s best in what to do with the information I’ve got. I’ve tried to reach out to Katie Hind on twitter to no avail. It’s complex to go into and I don’t really know where to turn and how to proceed or if. I’m only saying this after the confidence due to how things have suddenly escalated. Does anybody have any suggestions here?
 
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Mediamyster

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Just want to thank Tattle again for the time and responses over the last half an hour. I appreciate them all and I will take the rest of the day to ponder everything. Don’t know why this place has a bad rep. Between this and GB News they helped me recollect and consider a few things. I’ve been in touch with MM and obviously won’t say anything else in case any journalists reading, which if they are… a note for them all, please put clear instructions on your social media pages how to get in touch if you don’t accept open DMS. No point in doing anything if I can’t bloody get in contact to report something!
 
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ReadySteadyGrift

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Recap:
Dan Wootton doesn't blink.
Philth is never going to see Charlie's sword as he is dropped from the Princes Trust
Eamonn does an incredible reconstruction of Phil coming out.
This Morning will be scrutinised by the Parliamentary Select Committee which Tattlers are very excited about. Hooe they read out a statement by Kim Woodburn.
That little bitch still hasnt resigned
Dan Wootton still hasn't blinked in the time it has taken you to read this.
 
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London Hung Guy

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Holly has played along with the game for years. She knew Phil was gay and open all hours with his legs in the air in his Southwark flat ready for anyone to bang - as all the gays knew. On TV she was helping to deceive viewers with his 'family man' image. She was complicit. Her husband is shagging half of Barnes but she wants to keep her job. So keep the ❄ coming and she'll keep her mouth shut. Oh there's that young lad Schoffe shags, let's keep quiet about that too,.

Both of them HAVE TO GO! Is this really the BEST presenters we've got? Let's give new talent a chance please!
 
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Mediamyster

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The reason I say this is that if it relates to MM, he may be in a position to corroborate and if he isn’t he can sign post you to someone reliable in the media. You didn’t clarify if it is illegal or not so kinda not giving us much direction. You say you don’t want blue lights so what do you want?
It’s very awkward to say something without saying anything if you know what I mean. 🤦🏻‍♂️ I have some direct experience with PS and it was something somebody said last night on here re MM and needing support. I’ve got some evidence and something that MM would be able to identify in agreement with me. I’m just going to take an hour out and work out my next move. I don’t want to embroil myself into something that could impact my daily life. Yet I don’t feel I can ignore it. 😔 Thank you for all your comments.
 
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