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Imagine telling his son his dad chose drugs and alcohol over him ..

1 - You’d have to be a seriously malicious and spiteful excuse of a person to think that let alone say it, and to a child.
2 - it’s not true. Drug abuse is not chosen over parenthood, it’s a toxic coping mechanism that wrecks lives. As we see.

He loved his son and his son loved him. Trashing that relationship the day he died says a lot more about the people doing it than it does him.

Poor little Bear my heart hurts for him.

It's a class act that statement. Bear has a wonderful mother in his corner. And she's been consistent in shielding him from press since day one. I love that I have no idea what that boy looks like. There's no cute pix for Instagram engagement and PR when GA are doing a show and then shouting about privacy the rest of the time. She doesn't run with the hare and hunt with the hound.

Please can we not start with these mad TikTok theories that someone threw him off the balcony? It's insulting and disrespectful. I think a blind man and his dog can see what has happened, you just have to go by the amount of drug paraphernalia in the hotel room.

The sad truth is, just because someone is famous and you’re a fan of them or whatever, doesn’t mean they’re this flawless, great human being. I hope his ex has plenty of support, as his crazy fans are going to come after her and blame her. She is not to blame. If someone is being abusive or manipulative, you have every right to call them out for it. He was an adult, with access to the best mental health treatment and rehab money could buy. I’ve seen people desperate for help, stuck on NHS waiting lists, lose their lives because they just haven’t had any support or help.
I’m not diminishing that it’s sad and a total waste of a life, but I’m not going to retroactively pretend he was a great person because of what’s happened. There’s a toxic narrative around mental illness that’s become pervasive in certain corners online in recent years, that basically says you have to put up with bad behaviour and abuse if someone is going through a hard time or has a mental illness, because it might push them over the edge if you don’t. This is coming from someone with a mental illness. It’s no excuse.

Katie Waissel sounds like such a grief tourist. It's been less than 24h, maybe keep your public service announcements to yourself. I wonder when she last spoke to him since they were apparently such good friends

Posted this on the 1D Thread but thought I should post here after reading some comments on here.

My dad has been going into rehab for most of his life for alcohol addiction and 9/10 he falls off the wagon again, because as much as he does want the help there and then, it doesn't last. It happens time and time again. It's sad.
You can have all the money in the world, all the resources there to help you but ultimately it is down to the person that is needing the help to actually want it because otherwise the cycle continues.
My dad struggles massively with life, he has lost his daughter to cancer, his wife to cancer, and his son in a car accident, amongst many other things and he used/uses alcohol as an escape. It doesn't matter that he has kids that love him, grandkids that love him.
It's an addiction that he has tried to beat many times but he just can't do it.

It really isn't that easy as just going to rehab and you're all good. If it were my dad would have beaten this horrible illness & addiction 40yrs ago.

merlot said:

Cheryl's mam.

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Oh come on. Firstly she’s there to support Cheryl! And secondly he was the father of her grandchild. She has every right to be there

I’ve been thinking about this and how Liam tragically passed away. I’m an A&E nurse, and have seen a fair few falls/jumps. What strikes me is the report of his head injury. Generally if you jump you will have facial injuries. it sounds like he was taken to his hotel room and left inside. Perhaps they were holding the handle of the door or he assumed they’d locked it and He panicked as he knew they’d called the police. Obviously not of sound mind due to what he had taken, I think he’s climbed over the balcony to drop to the one below to escape. And has happened to fall backwards. It feels really wrong even thinking about this let alone talking about it, but in human nature we are inquisitive. And it’s just a thought I had. Regardless he was a very loved man, who’s little boy more than likely thought the world of him. Who’ll also grow up to be able to google his dad, which is sad May Liam rest in peace xx

I'm an addict (a recovering addict) but I believe i will be an addict for the rest of my life. I also have adhd, borderline personality disorder and bipolar 2.
My heart absolutely breaks for liam, his family, his son and his loved ones. I count my lucky stars that I am not famous because if I was then I know I would have died a long time ago. To have yes men being able to hive you whatever you fancied, coupled with the feelings you have for yourself it's a recipe for disaster.
For me, and this is from an addicts point t of view when I read about celebrities who are also addicts I always think about how they go through the same struggles as non celebrity addicts do. It sounds silly I guess but it's like we all go through withdrawal symptoms... opiates have always been my main drug of choice, however I also went onto cocaine, crack cocaine, benzos, but It was always opiates (which ironically started as I was prescribed them legitimately by my doctor). But I remember rhe johnny Depp and amber heard trial where it said she got rid of his methadone (or suboxone. I can't remember which, but his opiate substitute) while they were on holiday. And it broke my heart because I too take methadone and it's saved my life and if I don't have it then I get very very very sick. And i just found that the most upsetting thing to do to someone. I must admit when I saw the pica of liam hotel room I was surprised by his home made crack pipe thingy made out of a coca cola soda can. That was some heavy stuff than indicates he has been doing it a while. I was also heartbroken when I saw what I thought was a toot made out of foil (to smoke heroin) and the dark coloured tar that I did initially also think was heroin.
Addiction is so real and so heartbreaking. So many of us also have mental Health diagnosis and you would be surprised at the how services refused to treat mental health until we had sorted out the substance addiction not realising the 2 are very much linked.
I just find it so sad, and Mt heart breaks for his son.

I’m just echoing what others have said but I think Maya will undoubtedly feel bad and will probably blame herself - but she shouldn’t. I saw on the news overnight she took out a restraining order to stop him contacting her friends and family and maybe she had one to stop him contacting her too.

Just because someone is famous it shouldn’t mean they’re treated like gods in life or death and the chances of her lying about what her experience of him is are slim. Should he have been above reproach? Absolutely not. I had a terrible relationship when I was younger and every time I tried to leave he said he would take his own life. I was 21 and that was one strand of a complex and damaging relationship. He didn’t but if he had been taking drugs then who knows? You never ever know what is in the drugs you smoke but buying and taking drugs abroad carries an even bigger risk (I would think).

He was a very troubled man by all accounts (he wasn’t on my radar tbh) and he paid the heaviest price for the fame he wanted so badly when he was a KID. Mikey from Boyzone posted a really good point; record companies should have Psychologists on their payroll to give help to young people who are catapulted to fame.

Where was his family? He was 31. Far too young to die but old enough to do what he wanted and when you’re an international superstar that nobody says “no” to, the chances of you listening to anyone must diminish. We don’t know how many people tried to help him as I’ve been hearing and reading he spiralled.

I feel heart sorry for Bear and I feel sorry for Cheryl that she has to break her wee boy’s heart and pick up the pieces. But as much as we shouldn’t put him on a pedestal in death, I don’t think we should forget that relationship, the age difference and the potential impact that had on him. If the genders were reversed we would have heard a lot more about it.

I sincerely hope he’s at peace now. 31 is no age at all and it could have been so different.

Honestly think there needs to be better protection for young popstars. If my daughter wanted to work 40+ hours in a cafe at a young age she couldn't. Yet popstars can be young working long hours away from their families surrounded by people using them for money... 31 is no age at all.

allgoodnamesaregone said:

Considering she’s told me things about my family members who have passed that no one would know. Just because you don’t believe don’t put others down. Dick.

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I always wonder, if mediums are real, what makes dead celebrities decide to immediately come back and send messages through Brenda from Wakefield.

princess0121do1 said:

Again

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Very disrespectful, both to Chris and the poster who kindly took the time to reply to you. It's fine if you don't know who he is, or even if you don't like him but he did sell well over 30 million records in his lifetime, so don't pretend he was a nobody.

One thing I really admire Cheryl for is keeping her boy out the press. She also kept a dignified silence on what sort of a dad he was. You have to suspect it was just facetime and sending money if he was a messy addict mostly on another side of the world. Wonder if it was a while since she could ever trust him alone with him?

Addicts love nothing more than alone time with their true love, he must've been on a bender ever since the g/f left.

SheMyBestie said:

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She’s right, those room photos should’ve never been released. That family would have never seen them in an inquest so why should we? the Argentina police have released way way waaaay too much information there been zero privacy at all even the prostitutes that shouldn’t of made it out but it did.

Daily Mail are live on Tik Tok waiting for his body to come out of the morgue. Gross.

I think Kate had every right to post that Liam intended on marrying her. She’s been completely left out of the tributes when she’s been in a long term relationship as if she didn’t exist. That shit has got the hurt on top of the fact she’s grieving her boyfriend, so yes, her reclaiming that she was important to him in his last days is a valid and understandable point to make. We have no insight into who made the decision to move and who choose the lifestyle they led - it could have equally been Liam. All this hate for a young woman is really pissing me off.

omgcupcakesbaby said:

I don’t know why people are thinking it’s a problem her being there or whether it’s appropriate for Bear to attend. My son was the same age as Bear when we lost my partners dad, we felt that our son was at an appropriate age to attend his funeral, we gave him the choice & it helped him immensely being able to go, my partners ex attended (the mother of his then almost 17 year old daughter) & my partners dad’s ex wife (mother of my partners two half brothers) also attended with her husband, Nobody batted an eyelid & rightly so- they were either there because they had a relationship of some form with him or they were there to provide support to those that did.

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I do wonder about the age of some people commenting here at times, it’s like they have zero life experience. It would have been the hight of rudeness for Joan to not attend tbh, but she was also there to support Cheryl and Bear for the hardest day of their lives. Such an odd take from the op. Some people here also thrive on trying to create drama from the most normal of situations.

I think the individual tributes from Zayn, Louis, Harry and Niall were lovely and I admire them all for being able to share their thoughts on what must have been a terribly difficult day for them. Losing a friend in any circumstances is tough. I don’t think overanalysing what each man said, and whether their publicists helped with the wording, is useful. They were all really close for several years and no matter what has happened since, they are all devastated.

My sisters friend works at Birmingham airport and apparently his dad has flown out today to bring his body back. Got escorted through the airport. He is absolutely distraught understandably.