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I think the thing that galls me more than anything else about Alfie’s whole line on that podcast is that all those thoughts and impulses he describes are normal. It is normal to find babies tiring and be ambivalent about having more of them. It’s normal to still have sexual urges toward other people once a committed relationship has moved into a settled phase (more frequent and intense in men on average but still largely universal). It’s normal to secretly feel some subversive thrill at the idea of a guilty transgression. None of these things are especially good, but they are not unusual or exciting or exceptional. They are just base impulses, and part of being a responsible adult and trustworthy romantic partner is accepting them as a likely reality and just getting over yourself and suppressing them so that you don’t wound your partner and screw up your family. There are no great unsayable truths in anything he said, no revelations, no edge. He might as well have spent six minutes talking about how he’s decided he’s going to start scratching his anus in public. Man in “arse sometimes itchy at awkward moments” shocker.

There are some things we accept tacitly as a society. People will sometimes make unorthodox arrangements to accommodate these needs, most will try and stick to the status quo and just try and accept no extramarital shenanigans as the price one pays for one’s partner extending them the same courtesy. Inevitably sometimes people will fail, and sometimes their partner can overlook it and sometimes they can’t. But it’s so vicious and base to air this stuff gleefully in the public square. What purpose does it serve? None. It’s not awareness-raising, nobody benefits from its “normalisation”. Its only function is to draw attention to him and to humiliate Jessie and by extension the children.

What a baby. I hope he gets gout.

That podcast is haunting me. And I’m not easily shocked. Is he a complete idiot????? Or could he just not help showing off or did he want to end things? He literally spelled out what an arse hole he is. The stupidity is staggering.

throwing a way a relationship with the mother of your four children to go off and have grubby one night stands. Is that it?? I doubt he will find anyone else willing to put up with his ‘deals’ or bullshit.

I don’t get the appeal of him either?? Mid 40s, looks like he smells of stale fags, no money, four kids, talks about women with such disrespect. What a fucking catch eh! I hope that podcast keeps his bed cold for a very long time.

His name is Horatio - I think we can safely assume he's doing fine for money

I think there’s some serious arrested development going on for Jessie and to an extent, Alfie.

Alternatively, Jessie is undiagnosed autistic and is taking that it longer to understand how to have an enjoyable long term relationship.

I met Alfie after one of his gigs once and he was very lovely. He came across as intelligent, ambitious and I thought he was brave because his views within his comedy set were a bit more vulnerable to misinterpretation than your average, ‘have you noticed…’ comedian these days.

Anyway the race thing and teenage girl thing he’s recently been cancelled for were jarring to say the absolute least and I personally feel were just as cringey as any young edge lord trying to be shocking. I genuinely don’t think he is either a pedalo or a racist, just a boy trying to be a grown up within a complex society and ducking up spectacularly.

I loved Andrew and Horatio’s takes on the JH stuff. They came across as normal, mature men who could see JH for what he is, an insecure narc.

Bebe always seems to have to role of co-regulating Jessie. I see this a lot with women with ASD. They don’t necessarily go out, make friends and live their youth and have fun - often preferring to live through their siblings.
Jessie seems to be a black and white thinker where Bebe shape-shifts and looks at things from all angles.

I see a real lack of joy and levity in Jessie, that leaves me feeling cold. A sort of austerity. Austerity around food, indulgence, luxury, frivolity. Her hard-core attachment parenting style is so all-consuming and boot-camp esque it’s as though she can’t lean in to pleasure on any level. I remember her saying how she absolutely hated Christmas. I thought that was a sad thing to say for a young mother with loads of young children. All of the shots of her home look so functional, with no sense of fun. Her son also seems really badly behaved from what she says.

I know she loves her children, her mother and her sister a lot and I can see this is her one soft side. I understand that she is grieving and that her past traumas inform her extremely army major ways. I just think she could do with seeing that. And then beginning to drop the hard, workaholic self punishing thing and develop an understanding of joy, indulgence relaxation and lightness.

It so reminds me of kids I went to school with whose parents were sooo middle classed that they weren’t allowed to just enjoy and be lazy. Everything was so serious.

kittymeowlondon said:

but in her live show she said her tennis teacher raped her.
hardly a memory you want to remember when looking at your baby.

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Jesus that's a low comment. I do not think the baby's name has anything to do with the tennis player but even if it did that would great. A rapist doesn't get to take away any good association with a sport she played.

I actually think it's quite funny that he based his new show around a very small number of people who comment on a niche thread where he's not even the primary subject matter and then the much larger and influential twitter community comes along with zero input from tattle and decides they think he's a total c*nt too! glorious schadenfreude

Jessie is a great example of how you can be a beautiful, smart, talented (at least a bit) and privileged/well connected woman and STILL have incredibly low self esteem and let it make you make bad choices/steer the course of your life. Such a shame…. I just hope it’s not too late for her to create a better life for her and her kids. Maybe no more babies, focus on family and friends and career, get some internal peace.

I can’t believe what I’ve listened to on that podcast. Alfie sounds like a total loser, and the way he talks about cheating, the awful sycophantic hosts, the weird comment he makes about the kids in his kids school??? Jesus Christ. I really hope Jessie ended it based on this shit, he’s an embarrassment. Shagging about as someone in your late thirties with 4 young kids is not normal. It’s not cool or normal. As if he shagged way younger gen z girls in Edinburgh, he’s no catch and there are always loads of hot, young actors and comedians up there.

I remember when I was in my early 20s in the pre-Me Too era and guys who’d act/talk like Alfie thinking they’re so edgy, it makes me cringe now, and I really am sad that Jessie wasted so much time on this guy with all her own success behind her and the fact it’s bloody 2023. I hope she never takes him back.

StTropez said:

currently trending on Twitter for not good reasons

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Clowns like this really think they're being edgy and subversive when they stand on a stage and dissect the etymology of racial slurs. Not only is it unoriginal and painfully unfunny, when you're a person of colour unwittingly sat in the room, it's also fucking dehumanising.

They never stop to consider that though because this type of 'comedy' relies heavily on the presumption that your audience is made up of 'people like you'. I hope the boner he got for saying the n-word repeatedly in public was worth it.

The Yoko Ono of GY said:

Everything falling in place now, if you will? Jessie’s little-ish fashion style, him „wanting to sh*g a 14yr old“ and his jokes on Greta…

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he had a line about jessie
"dresses like a toddler, fucks like a pig"

ElpisWept said:

Should there be a separate thread for Alfie?

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Please not let us inflate his ego even more with having his own tattle thread.
Also, imo, he is not interesting enough beyond Jessie.

Watched the latest Patreon video earlier and I really feel like Jessie and Bebe are absolutely stuck in the early noughties Heat magazine mindset. I'm a year or two younger than Jessie so was also heavily influenced by that era of 'circle of shame' body image bollocks (and like many, ended up with an ED in my late teens/early twenties) but I honestly feel like I don't know ANYONE who still talks openly about food and weight in the warped way they do. It's honestly fascinating and seems like they really encourage each other.

When Jessie said she feels/hopes she paves the way for future mothers who aspire to be working mothers (or something like that) in a recent podcast I snorted and realised she’s really properly delusional.

PocketRLocket said:

They're 10 years apart right? It's quite weird for someone to argue with a sibling like they do when your age gap is so wide isn't it?

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There’s ten years between me and my sibling and we’re like two only children (which is great!). We are two different generations to be honest. We never had to compete for anything and we never argue.

Maybe it’s a sister thing; I have a brother.

nocommentthanks said:

Horatio is from a very rich family too.

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I have no idea who Horatio is (I’m guessing it’s Bebe’s boyfriend) but it’s impossible to be an English boy called Horatio and not be stinking rich

17daize said:

I didn’t see Kitty’s post as being “anti trans” - this is a quiet thread though.. Do you want to make it quieter by policing? Nish just threw out some casual misogyny instead of intelligently considering a complex issue. In the style of Alfie Brown

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“I believe that the transgender community deserves our love and support. But there is a bizarre fixation with it in the British press. I don’t know what’s going on. It feels like everyone in the British media has like caught some sort of brainwaves about the subject. It is a community that people have a pathological obsession with. I just think: live and let live.”

Where’s the misogyny?

As for the bit in bold - it’s not Alfie Brown saying it, I t’s Nish Kumar. It’s a reach and a half. Bizarre. And if Alfie actually shared those views it would be one of his very few redeeming qualities.

Alfie, would you like your own thread? Let us know somehow.

When a guy calls himself sensitive it just means he’s lowkey shitty and manipulative, to be frank.

At least we can be fairly sure Alfie is reading. Hi, Alfie, nobody hates you we are all just revolted by your behaviour towards someone who clearly loves you. I suppose we thought we had you wrong and it is disappointing that you have shown yourself to be so very small and inadequate.

Alfie‘s letter to Jessie, because of which she immediately decided to take him back.

I am actually annoyed at Jessie for wasting a decade with this loser. Come on girl! What on earth was this relationship about? Having babies he didn’t want, him cheating thinking it’s his right, exchanging pregnancies for one night stands, having her mother do all the hard work because he doesn’t want the responsability.. I have no words. Such a mess. And so public.