Kenkobop

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I’m new here, and this may have already been talked about, but…

I really think James’s whole ‘do-whatever-I-want’ attitude is completely incompatible with parenthood. My dad has the same attitude, and he walked out on my mum when I was 2. He didn’t like the relationship, the neighbourhood, the responsibility. Now he lives on a beach in Hawaii, and yep, he takes his ‘dips’ everyday, just as James does.

Fact is, when you have kids, you do have to do a LOT of stuff you don’t want to do. You have to change nappies, deal with tantrums, deal with adolescents who say they hate you. You have to go to boring school concerts, stand around in the freezing cold to watch kids attempt to play sport for an hour or so.

And that’s just if everything goes to plan! What if your kid has mental health struggles? Or gets a terminal illness? Etc.

James is just a man-child, and his ‘philosophy’ is selfish and unrealistic.

again, this has probably been said before, but I just needed to vent. He triggers a lot of personal angst for me.
 
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Gentlemensrelish

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Right then, shall we all calm down a bit?

James and his partner had a baby, the baby is called Cian which we agreed is a perfectly pleasant name, and his partner stayed in hospital for what we agreed was an above average for the UK and yet not interesting length of time.

James looks tired and continues to have bad hair.
 
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Bugger.lugs

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As someone that suffers with ADHD. Please fuck off James!!!
You should have stopped at ‘I’m no expert’
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I once asked something similar telling him I have autism and ADHD and really need something different every few days. His response was 'are you diagnosed or self diagnosed because that sounds like bollocks'

I left his academy. Immediately.
 
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snarkyshark

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“I just spread positivity on the internet” no you don’t! Remember that kid’s video you commented under recently James?? Or that time you said you agree with Andrew Tate the actual rapist? Or the time you dedicated a whole Insta story to telling us how women deserve to be paid less? Or the fact you’re now going the usual right wing grift direction ? When you fat shamed a women who was doing well in yoga who happened to be in a magazine in a whole reel? Wouldn’t call all of that positive behaviour. Wouldn’t call it clown behaviour tbh. I’d call it being an actual fucking cunt (and not in an Aussie nice way).
 
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YogaKitty444

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I've decided (along with my friend that first made me aware of his FB live about my husband and I) that I'm done with social media and trusting people online.
This is the only account I haven't deleted because I want my post to stay and warn others, although I am aware that within a few more days it'll be so many pages behind that no one will see it any more and it'll soon be forgotten anyway.

I was a member of JSA since the first day so have enough knowledge to help my husband. The only reason I haven't up until now was that he wasn't interested.

Thank you everyone who has been nice though.
 
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HappyMum44

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I am the wife that James and his followers took the piss out of during his live the other night, along with my husband.

I've created an account on here to write this because I don't think there'd be any point contacting JS about how I feel. He'd probably just twist it or publish it for everyone to take the piss out of again, anyway.

I recognised my best friend from some of her posts further up this thread. She said things that we've talked about together so I was sure it was her. She's confirmed it's her and thinks I should post too. So here I am!

A little history.
I've followed JS since his very early days, pre-JSA, when we would all get excited for him if he got over 100 people watching a live on FB.
I signed up to JSA on the very first day he launched it and have been a paying member ever since.
To this day, I still really like the content of the app and find the training videos really great.
The JSA FB group is awful and not an aspect I like.
I have learnt a lot about fitness and nutrition and thank him for that.

I am not one of the crazy followers of JS that is always desperate for him to notice me.
I have never, not once, emailed him, messaged him or tagged him on FB.
To me, JS is the head of a fitness brand that I can learn a lot from. He is not my friend and never will be and I find those that desperately seek his approval very strange indeed.

I rarely watch his live FB videos now as these are aimed at recruiting new members of JSA so are very repetitive and the questions dull. But occasionally I do. I have laughed along when he takes the piss out of Joe Wicks, diet clubs etc and never thought any real harm was done.

Until the other night.

Everything he said on that live video about my husband and I was an outright lie. He twisted everything for laughs and FB Likes.

A little about my husband.
He is big.
29 stone.
But he is also very tall. 6 and a half feet tall. So people never believe he weighs as much as he does. He carries it well. Neither of us deny he is fat. He just doesn't look 29 stone, that's all.
He spoke to his GP and has a referral to a 'fat fighters' help class. But COVID scuppered that for now so he agreed that he'd do it the JSA way for a little bit so see if he liked that method.

The whole point of JSA is centered around using the JSA calculator to work out your allowance and counting your calories. He always talks about not under eating and making sure you eat your calorie allowance as not eating them will cause you to binge.
The calorie calculator 'only' goes up to 180kgs.
Now. My husband and I know he weighs a lot. We do. We are in no denial of that. We know that the calorie allowance for 180kgs is a lot. But it's a big drop from the amount of calories he normally eats. And if he went from his usual amount to that amount overnight, he wouldn't sustain that. It sounds a lot of calories, yes. But that's be the equivalent of an average weight person being told to eat 1000 cals a day and no more. Not practical.
Also, there are lots of people that are a lot bigger than my husband who would benefit from JSA.
So -

*I did NOT email JS with a complaint.
On the app is a 'contact us' section.
Within that, you can send a message to the app team about various things.
One of these sections is 'suggestions and improvements to the app'.
THAT was where I sent a message. You know, because I had a suggestion on how the app could be improved!
All I messaged was that the calculator only goes up to 180kgs and could this be extended?
I said my husband wanted to join JSA but as he couldn't get an accurate calorie amount, there wouldn't be much point as that is the cornerstone of JSA. I said it's a shame as very big people are the ones who may need JSA the most but cannot access it as they cannot get an accurate calorie total.
That was it. Nothing more.

I NEVER said we didn't know his weight. Nothing even close to that.

I NEVER said he was fatphobic and prejudice against fat people.

I was NOT bitching. I made a suggestion to improve the app on the section of the app that is there specifically to encourage you to make those suggestions!

He mocked us on the live, saying it was me that contacted him and not my husband. Like my husband didn't really want it or he would have messaged himself.
BOLLOCKS.
It was me that messaged because I am the one who is the JSA member and you've got to be a JSA member to use the 'improvements and suggestions' form on the app! My husband couldn't have done that!

Comments calling me a 'Karen' or suggesting I was projecting my frustrations on to JS and making people around me miserable are bullshit. I'm not frustrated with my husband. I fell in love with him when he was big. I couldn't give a flying fuck how big he is. I love him and am proud to be his wife.

180kg is big. Very big.
I get that.
But if people think that's the upper end of 'functioning fat' people, they are very much mistaken. Not these days.
People way bigger than that go about life with no input from medical services (yet) and are embarking on weight loss journeys.
If JSA won't help them by adjusting the upper limit on a calorie calculator, more fool JS. He's missing out on a big corner of the market.

JS knew my husband's weight. That is all.
The way he described him on that live gave no context.
He and the watchers of that live we're making out like he was one of those super obese people from 'my 600lbs life' or something. Bed bound and close to death.
Hs 6 and a half foot tall, not 5 foot nothing. So he's not some huge guy with folds and folds of fat that can't leave the sofa.
He works 60+ hour weeks in a VERY physically demanding job (which he hasn't had a single sick day from in years, might I add). His main hobby is metal detecting where he walks miles at a time. He's more active than me, FFS!
But JS or the viewers who took the piss don't know any of that. Because the only information JS had was a few sentences from an app suggestion. Nothing more.

Like my friend further up this thread said, there are rugby players and other sportsmen who weigh close to that.
Greg Davis (comedian) talked about his height and weight in an interview a couple of years ago. My husband is the same height near enough as him and weighs just over 6 stone more than him at his heaviest. (just so you can visualise him).
Yes, he's huge. But not at deaths door like they made him sound like.

My husband is not aware of that FB live.
And I will never tell him. It would break him. Not because of the weight jokes, per se, as he knows he's fat and needs to lose weight. But because he has been made a joke out of on the internet.
I'm upset and VERY angry. And the person I'm meant to be able to talk to about these things can't help me. Because it's about him.

The app suggestion feature says they'll respond within 24 hours.
I have had no response.
If I hadn't happened to have seen that live, I'd have just have thought I'd been ignored. Or the app had glitches so resent it. And potentially been bullied on the internet for a second time.
JS has not messaged me directly with a response. If I'd not have seen that live, I'd never have known his thoughts on very overweight people joining JSA.

JS has made it clear that if you are over 180kgs, JSA will not help you.
Him and those viewers of the live have made it clear their true thoughts about people that size.
IF I'd have emailed JS directly and bitched and been a year, MAYBE I'd have accepted being made the feature of one of his emails or lives. MAYBE.
But that didn't happen. I didn't bother him with any of it.
I made a suggestion on the app. That's all.

JS twisted and spun a very short message in to a hateful and bullying video.
It's now made me doubt any of the other ones he's done talking about some awful email / DM he's received were true either.

Like my friend said upthread, he is a guy who goes on and on about men's mental health. But when it comes to gaining followers, he'll destroy one man's mental health for laughs.

JSA and JS has been a large part of my life for years. It worked perfectly for me.
Now, I'm so upset and angry about it all.
I feel like the loyalty and money I've given him have meant fuck all.

Not a single thing has been mentioned about that live in the FB group. There are some really overweight people in there. I don't understand why they aren't upset about it too.

I'm sure by me joining here and posting this, if JS sees it I'll be thrown out of JSA anyway. Or he'll twist it and make me another feature of a live or email.
I might not even leave it up here for long. I might change my mind and delete my account on here soon.
But I just wanted to post somewhere about how it has made me feel (for myself AND my husband).
Thanks to my bestie upthread who wrote some lovely things (without, yet, even knowing it was my husband she has been defending!). And thank you to every one else on here who has said that what JS did was wrong.

Shame on JS.
And shame in anyone who commented on that live in a derogatory way.

I am so fucking angry for you. This should be posted in the Facebook group and let them all squirm and feel ashamed of themselves . I am so sorry you have had to go through this x
 
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Yogiblue

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I joined JSA the day it began. Loved it to start with. But it is so cliquey (whilst pretending it's the complete opposite).
It used to be great to debate all aspects of fitness. Now, if you disagree with one of the 'in-crowd' you're just laughed at and abused.

Most hideous of them all -

*Pippa.
Queen bee of creating a clique whilst acting like she's Mother Fucking Teresa. Spent the start of JSA telling us in every single post how amazing her husband was and her best friend. Overnight decided he was a 'fuck, no', divorced him, left her steady decent job and set up her own business spouting nutrition and self-help shit she learnt in a very short space of time and now lives with her dad. Thinks she's hot as fuck and spends every live video pouting and flicking her hair. Tried to shag anything that moved prior to COVID and actually called HERSELF a fox. She's old enough to be most people's Gran and has piled the weight back on. And those eyebrows!
She's a shit stiring madam and very active in seperate WhatsApp groups. If you're not 'in' with this one, don't bother entering a challenge.

*Donna and Steve Page.
Mental. Thinks everyone loves them.
She's bipolar, acts like she's doing okay but has crazy eyes and clearly is unstable as fuck.
He's on the spectrum or something and gives off weird psychopath vibes.
Both post long, rambly posts about how great they're doing, try to 'empower' others etc etc which are cringy to the extreme.
Their daughter also joined for a while but was clearly the product of two people who should never have had children and suffered mental health issues herself because of them.
Push themselves in every challenge to win. Post all the way through how great they feel. Then weeks afterwards do another post saying that actually, it was unhealthy and was making them ill. No shit! Everyone else could see it. Don't need you to do an 'emosh' post to tell us!
Tells us all their transform is for life but strops off when they don't win a challenge....

*Ruth
Another unstable member.
Had a good job, travelled the world, had money. But was in an abusive relationship. Good for her as she left an abusive relationship behind. But left with nothing.
Came back to UK and spends majority of her time posting slightly deranged videos of her dancing in public, parading the streets in her underwear and heels "to empower women" and other random shit.
Gives gerse7
Lives a transient lifestyle in a hostel. Hooked up with a class A drug user. Doesn't get a full time job and at about age 40 decides to study music at college! And in all of this decides their life is perfect enough to try for a baby. Which means all of JSA are "go Ruth, you'll be a great mum".

*Amber.
Serving Police Officer. Only been in a few years.
Acts like she's only officer in the UK.
Plows in whenever anyone has anything needing remotely criminal advice, often wrong.
We know what force she works for.
Posts photos of herself in uniform (disciplinary offence for police) followed by photos of her nude in high heels etc (again, disciplinary).

*Lee Hardy.
Won a previous challenge.
Utter cunt.
Spent his entire time focused on his transformation, forgetting he had a wife and child that needed looked after too. It was all about eating right, training and spending every waking minute on Facebook.
Got a big head and thought he was a celebrity. Dumped the wife and kid, stating that she couldn't handle he'd changed (in to a cunt). Became a part-time Disney Dad.
Tried to shag his way though the group on meetups.
Was a sexual predator and wouldn't take no for an answer.
Made a half arsed apology for getting too big for his boots and left the group to 'concentrate on himself'. Tried to be a celebrity fitness guru. Failed.
Now another loser trying to be instafamous.

There are so many more but I can't be arsed. I'd be here all day.
There are so many WhatsApp groups behind the scenes planning and egging each other on.
It's the same names all the time winning challenges, organising meetups (where you'll be sidelined if you aren't one of Pippa's chosen few).

Nobody can think for themselves.
James reads a book. Everyone else wants to read that book too.
James does BJJ. Everyone else wants to do that.
James does live vids. So everyone else thinks we want to sit and watch them, a complete stranger who slightly deranged, do a live vid too. NO ONE CARES. YOU'RE NOT FAMOUS OR INSPIRATIONAL.
Etc etc.
Heaven forbid someone goes out and finds their own inspirational books to read. It's the same 5 books every recommends each time!

You'd be amazed how many people in JSA followed his 'if it's not a fuck yes....' bollocks and left marriages, shagged around, left stable jobs etc etc just from that one sentence. Honestly, so many did it. I wonder how many now regret it and wish they'd kept their old lives. Or if they're still desperately trying to convince themselves they are happier now having left long-term relationships, are only part-time parents, don't have a pension, are fat again and are now self employed with zero backup during COVID!

When there was only a couple of hundred of us, it was okay (but FAR to sexualised, with women going along with the inappropriate behaviour to look like 'fun' and non-prudes). Now it's just become the thing it always said it hated.

They made a mistake not kicking people out the JSA Facebook group when they weren't paying members anymore. Now it's 25k+ too big. Too many Billy Big Bollocks all thinking they're nearly famous because they get a few people encouraging them to post cooking videos (Coops), daily inspro vids (menopausal 'foxy' Pippa) and mental crazy eyed encouragement vids (nearly everyone else!).
I still think the JSA site itself is decent in respect of it's content.
And he made me finally learn about how basic this stuff all was and to ditch the fads.
I can't knock him for that.

This 'be kind' bollocks has spawned tens of thousands of people in to thinking they are going to be famous because they get 20 people comments on one of their posts that they're a 'legend' when what they don't realise is 200 people think they're a complete twat but darent say it for fear of being called a bully.
 
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Tigger20

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We need thread suggestions.

This guy is an utter raging narc who is actually mean. Like, completely when triggered.

100% was a comment made by a woman.

James Smith: Leaving Oz, see ya later, can’t disguise he’s a woman hater.
 
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RR55

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I used to like Smith, even bought both books and listened to the podcast. The original pods - him on his own, discussing bread and butter fitness topics (supplements, calories, general well-being) were great. When lockdown really bit and fair points started, I realised actually...he’s full of rubbish. Then this last year, when he got really over confident and started attacking people personally online (tagging them in stories and in his emails) it was a bridge too far.

The thing I find most infuriating about Jimmy Smiths is how much work he’s put in to trying to intellectualise the fact he can’t handle criticism and is completely oblivious to how the world really works. It’s real funny how in the books and podcast he glossed over the fact his Dad put a sum of money in his account on a regular basis for uni, like that was somehow normal for everyone

Criticise James? You’re just a snowflake and won’t be in his tribe of nodding dogs who think everything he says is absolutely correct absolutely all off the time. He, like Piers Morgan, is one of the real snowflakes of the modern era - genuinely so insecure they must believe everyone else is always wrong and they’re bang on the money, else they’d have to admit they aren’t all that.

Think he’s rude? Nah I’m just genuine and you can’t handle it. It’s always ‘other people are the problem’. As I would say to some clients I coach - if you are always telling other people they are the problem, you should really consider whether you are in fact the problem.
 
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New here, glad I found this, was beginning to think I was the only one who could see this, when this mob of clowns, frauds and narcissists invaded two of my gyms, and multiplied like Gremlins...

I’ll go into more specific detail, but a quick intro: DK is Plastic Insta~Gansta who makes a living out of being JS no1 fanboy, he exudes beta maleness in a bubble of narcissistic ambition to step on people when they least expect it so he can dream of being the next Joe Rogan. The pseudo-celebrity clique he belongs in has resulted in a trail of gym members around London disgusted with their arrogance while laughing at them behind their backs. Think David Brent: Life on the road and you will understand this lot!

In person, this parasite crew:
FR is painfully rude, only acknowledges ‘worthy’ people and has the charisma of a rotten cabbage. Fake & awkward and yet talks
about ‘being nice/kind’

PO is not the worst, mildly funny, but thick.

JS When he is in the UK, is what you see on the tin. Coked up, juiced up guy who appeals to posh ‘lads’. He has his market, if you fall for it, fair play to him I guess. He refers to his BJJ fighting a lot, yet his record is so appallingly bad, but like any conmen, he make himself seem quite the fighter to those who wouldn’t know (I can break this down another time).

DK: is the worst of the bunch IMHO, total passive aggressive beta trying to be an Alpha. Mildly racist (But claims to hate racism and drops the Kurdish angle when it suits), thick as pig shit, but good at charming/worming his way into freebies or training seven days a week with top athletes, and still being relatively very crap at BJJ...

I follow none of them, and refuse to view their nonsense anymore, if they are going to steal a living, I don’t want to add a single view or follow to it... ...If you see it too, make your votes count guys!
 
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Steeevo

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Just unfollowed him.... shaming people for gaining weight in lockdown and then saying “now to watch the world burn” mate you’re a cunt.... you’re not doing anything revolutionary by telling people do more eat less.... I literally cannot deal with the shock jock attitude anymore. He is just an out an out cunt (sorry for the language but argh)
Isn't this standard James at the minute? When he put on weight, it was there's a global pandemic, team thicc, no one sees you with your top off (unless you constantly get someone to take photos of you after bjj sessions). I'm guessing he's just weighed himself and realised he's lost a bit of weight, so naturally everyone else should and everyone should want to be him.

So lose weight, but not too much weight that you have more visible abs than him, as then you are boring. Do resistance training (though not sure if he goes to the gym any more) but don't get more muscular than him as then you must be on steroids.

Don't pursue money in your work as getting a nice house and car means your a knob, but having money to buy other expensive things, flying business class and randomly paying stuff for your mates (whether they want you to or not) is fine. Look at the knobhead flashing his cash on a car, but praise for me flashing my cash doing xyz.

Let man live, but tell everyone who does something different to you that they're a cunt.
 
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DaisyDaisy87

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James on his stories ‘I don’t like the thought of getting married and having to split assets’ ummmm what assets would they be James? Your skateboard and pregnancy pillow?
 
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duckenergy67

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Sorry if OT, this is my first time posting on this thread (I didn't even realise he had a tattle page!)
I've been following James on and off since probably 2016.
I actually bought the first book when it came out and listened to it all through January.

I thought Not A Diet Book would be what it says.. not a diet book. But it actually encouraged a lot of previous bad habits I've had with an eating disorder. Despite being on the low end of a healthy weight; this book convinced me that I needed to lose weight, andI pretty much erased quite a lot of good habits I'd built in recovery. This was my first issue with him. Not saying he is to blame, but he is irresponsible and seems to think his entire audience is chronically obese 40 year olds with no understanding of fitness.

I listened to his podcast because my best friend loved it and always recommended episodes (which somehow ended up being my number 1 podcast in my Spotify unwrapped, sorry Chris and Rosie Ramsey). I actually liked his solo podcasts and thought they were quite decent. Fair Points is where it went down hill for me as a follower/listener. It was like listening to three rugby boys trying to sound grown up.

The constant mockery of Ferris (or Dirren, idk) was frustrating and completely tone deaf to the whole mens mental health movement.

The constant references to drugs and alcohol is ridiculous. Most people have done some drugs and drank a lot, but they don't carry that narrative and story line into their professional work. I don't understand how he can fat shame and bully people into losing weight - yet has no issue with some cross cut white powders jacking up your central nervous system. Also, at the ripe old age of 30? maybe if he was 21, but grow up.

Finally, I don't like this rhetoric he has about not wanting a family, not wanting a wife etc. He's clearly got some deep routed issues, because his entire self worth is based upon how many shags he's had. I'd understand if he was asexual or genuinely not interested in romantic relations, but that's not the case.

Long story short, I never thought I'd dislike him, but here i am
 
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SarcasticEllis

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I get that finally having a blood relative is a huge thing for him, but I don’t think I’ve ever read a more egocentric baby announcement. Remember this wee lad is his own person James
 
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