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Don't think any of us saw this coming.

My first thoughts are - If the nature of what Jenny was saying about her was that bad, it's obviously awful and I wouldn't wish that on anyone. It would be so hurtful to find that out. We don't know what exactly was being said about Lindsay, but literally every friend is guilty of bitching about their friend - so it would have to be really REALLY bad for Lindsay to publicly put Jenny on blast like that, right?

My second thoughts are - The timing of Lindsay doing this is odd considering the dust had pretty much settled, and she was going ahead with Itgalz herself, so what's left to say? Jenny's posts all week living it up in Ibiza and then the mic drop new podcast announcement post, and people supporting Jenny and getting excited about her solo pod must have really really rubbed Lindsay up the wrong way. Enough to have her think 'it's not enough that I get to keep running ItGalz, I want people to know the truth about Jenny' and basically sabotage Jenny right back. Lindsay writes In detail about the character defamation Jenny allegedly intentionally engaged in, but she is doing the exact same thing right back to Jenny now - in a very dramatic and public fashion. If it's true that Lindsay had to sign an NDA and now she's basically gone against that, she could legally be in a lot of trouble.

Also an intentional 'trial by social media' post like that is serious mental torture to inflict on someone, again Lindsay says how much her mental health has been affected but now she's done possibly the most mentally affecting thing right back to Jenny. Yeah stuff was said about both of them on tattle, but not every one knows about tattle - the top liked comment on Lindsay's insta post that literally everyone they know can now see is 'She has always been jealous of you. You were always the more popular and funny one (IMO) I’m with you. Hope you feel better and best of luck.' that is fucking humiliating. What if Jenny flipped and commit suicide? It's quite serious to put someone on blast like that on INSTA, not a private message forum. If it was Jenny who made the post I'd say the same thing. Why create drama and fan the flames of a situation that was settled when they were both clearly moving on with their own pods (the only thing for people left to discuss then was the quality of the solo pods which is all fair game)

I will hold my judgement on who is in the wrong until we know more, but the one thing I do know is two wrongs do not make a right, and this is one of the most toxic shitshows I have ever seen. How were they ever friends? I seriously hope no one gets hurt in all of this.

yeahcoolsie said:

Yeah he probs would, they both seem like

Or she could be staying silent because she is guilty of something, she could release something and say the bare minimum, she doesn’t give a shite about her fans! I am clearly not a fan of Jenny considering I just said she has always been a wagon, never got the impression she cared about her listeners other than speaking to them like she knows everything and we are all idiots. What was Jenny’s plan if Lindsay never spoke out? Just to disappear from Acast and Patreon and not address it? Just leave fans waiting for an episode? Paying fans?

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If I'm thinking about it logically with the information we have (which is easy to do as I don't favour Lindsay or Jenny more so I've zero bias in my head) Let's do a timeline!

We know that on the 9th of June something happened before a livestream that was so explosive it essentially ended their friendship. The girls state it was 'No drama just family stuff' so we can reasonably assume at this point they've not decided what the fight or discussion means for the future of the pod, they just know they can't do the live stream that night.

We hear nothing from them on the 10th but we can assume the girls discussed (or fought about) the future of the pod and Jenny decides she doesn't want to do the podcast with Lindsay anymore. Like Lindsay, the podcast is also Jenny's main job - so to make a decision like that and cut off her future income must mean that whatever happened was serious.

Lindsay posts an Xgals episode with Pete on Friday the 11th of June, and also promotes it on the Itgalz instagram. Logically this must have pissed Jenny off (if she had stated she didn't want to do the pod anymore and thinks it's unfair for Lindsay to continue on without her consent)
so she then locks Lindsay out from the Instagram account.

Lindsay probably realises she's been locked out of the instagram, so then locks Jenny out of the Discord and Patreon.

There is no main ItGalz ep on Weds the 16th of June, then on Friday the 18th June Lindsay posts another Xgalz ep with Pete on the Patreon.
At this point the subs are wondering what the hell is going on and where Jenny is.

At some point the two girls unfollow each other on insta, Evan unfollows Lindsay and Sarah unfollows Jenny. So something has clearly gone down.

On Saturday the 19th of June Lindsay posts in the Patreon about her 'focus group' and states how she wants to meet up with Xgalz to get feedback about what they want from the podcast as "everything is up in the air". This raises more questions and evantually Lindsay tells people via the comments on the post that:

"Jenny didn’t want to continue so I am in the process of expanding X Galz as I know this is a big shock. This is why I want to touch base with you and come together to create something valuable and beneficial to you. My main focus is sustaining and growing this platform. "

"Jenny and I are not communicating at this point in time. She is being silent and I have no control over that but felt it was right to let you know."

So people now know that Jenny doesn't want to do the pod and are confused about Lindsay pushing on regardless. Lots of xgalz support Lindsay at this point but some mention they feel it's unsettling that they're only hearing one side of the story.

On Sunday the 20th of June, Lindsay has her meet up just after 2pm - around 10 people actually get to meet her as she leaves early. This is coincidental as at around 2.45PM someone in the discord shares a screenshot from a DM with Jenny, in which Jenny states she is currently locked out of the Discord and Patreon, and the things posted on the Discord and Patreon the previous days were without her consent.

Someone raises this in the comments under the meet-up post on Patreon and Lindsay replies:
"To note I am locked out of the it galz instagram and gmail. I also don’t have the ability to upload it galz. This has been going on for almost 2 weeks. I have kept quiet and kept to my word which is providing content. Jenny ceased communication with me days ago refusing to take my calls or configure a statement by herself or together. I am trying my best in this impossible situation and am being respectful and have tried to fight for my business the last two weeks and will continue to do so."

Today the 22nd June Lindsay posts an Xgalz episode on her own to explain what's going on, but doesn't go into much detail bar confirming that her and Jenny aren't friends anymore, that Jenny doesn't want to do the pod, that she can't speak out about specifics of the situation and that she is going to do the live shows on her own - the rest of the pod is pretty much Lindsay stating why she wants to continue ItGalz on and what it means to her.

Obviously the Xgalz are upset Jenny is still being silent, so an xgal messages Jenny to ask her why - Jenny responds and says there's a legal aspect and she doesn't feel she can speak out until everything is sorted.

Although we don't know the specifics of what happened between Lindsay and Jenny, we now have a full enough picture to tell us why Jenny is staying silent. Lindsay pushed on with the Pod, this is without Jenny's consent and she now has to pursue legal proceedings. If she's going this route, then logically she has to stay silent. How could they have released a joint statement if Lindsay didn't want to stop making the pod and Jenny did? It probably would have been better for them to pause their subs while they sorted it out, but Lindsay wanted to steamroll on ahead regardless which makes things messy for them.

In separate replies to people under posts on Patreon, Lindsay also states "there was an attempt to reconcile/negotiate for over a week before I was stonewalled" and "if she (Jenny) wants to come out and speak about what happened she has the freedom to", however doesn't address the clear disadvantage Jenny currently has about being locked out from the two private platforms, Discord and Patreon, that allow Lindsay full access to communicate with their paying subs.

Jenny can either post on the public itgalz insta or podcast (which for obvious reasons I'm sure she wouldn't want to as that's major drama) or her main instagram (which even Lindsay isn't doing) or she can sit back and let Lindsay ignore her wishes while she has to pursue legal action and stay silent or implicate herself. I don't think any of that points to Jenny not giving a shit about her fans to be fair. I think she's stuck between a rock and a hard place and it's getting messier by the minute.

(If I've noted anything incorrect be sure to let me know tattlers, but I think that's the gist of the situation to date)

Jenny if your out there...

My dream is that Adam O Reily would host a sit down red table talk vibe with the girls. They both tell there side first and then meet after to discuss

Fitfan47 said:

Don’t believe it for a second, very “she said, she said”. No malicious rumours about L were ever circulating so I think that maybe L couldn’t take a few home truths from J. I don’t buy this belittling shite either, J often had to step in to stop L getting cancelled. It’s very obvious to me that L can’t take any criticism.

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Completely agree.

Lindsay has been all over the place for over a year and cannot ever take ownership of her own shit.

Swinging from one relationship to the other, dragging her kids to and fro. On the sesh all during covid, flat out stopped taking her meds, breaking covid restrictions, getting covid and having to isolate, giving the dog away... And if it's true, although we don't know for sure, someone said her son moved back in with her parents instead of moving across the city into a new boyfriends house.

Any reasonable person would maybe look at all of this objectively and say "maybe I'm part the problem" and go to counselling to sort their shit out and get to the root of the issue. Yet here we have Lindsay ready to believe that Jenny is some sort of malignant narcissist, hell bent on ruining her life with all sorts of malicious lies. For what reason? I call bullshit.

It sounds like J was venting and ranting about L and someone said it back, Lindsay clearly unable to deal with the home truths and is going to extreme lengths to stay in denial instead of addressing shit she's said or done.

What she has done there to Jenny is quite scary, and shows what a dangerous person she is. She has made some serious accusations there and done a complete character assassination.

She has done the same with Jimmy, annihilating his character on the podcast. Nobody loves their ex but seems like she has a pattern of toxic relationships and now a toxic friendship too. She's either very unlucky to get involved with all of these vindictive people, or she is deflecting her own shit onto them.

Think what she has done there is so so wrong, imagine going online one day and reading that shit written about you. Poor Jenny, I hope she's OK.

Lindsay desperate for everyone to take her side, she has really shown her true colours. Horrible

“It’s hard to stand up to a bully and scary”.. How is anyone supposed to take statements like that seriously from a woman who is airing all their dirty laundry on insta for the past month - trying non stop to ruin J, yet she accuses J of character assassination.. she’s a master manipulator

muirnín said:

Dead that it took 3 people to produce that ramble LOL

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Her, Luna & Stella

New thread suggestion:

L spent all the Itgalz money, leave the jokes to someone funny

Omg girls I have a house to clean, children to feed, clothes to wash. Nothing is getting done.
So much tea!

What a classy response by Jenny

How is Hannah Montana a friend of lindsays when she was asking someone to go to the meet up to get the tea a few threads back 🥸

New thread suggestion - Jenny literally takes a hike, Lindsay solo on the mike, but we still don't know what caused the fight

doawheelie said:

With the whole repeal thing in my personal experience I actually didn’t vote I am all for girls doing whatever they want with their body, but myself personally I’d never have an abortion so I didn’t vote because why should I say no & take away anyone else’s rights to do so & why should I vote yes when it’s something I don’t personally agree with

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I suppose if it doesn't affect you it doesn't matter

You're either with us or against us https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar

“I will clear my name”. Ah stop Lindsay you’re a cohost on a shit podcast. Hardly Ian Bailey

Evan and Lindsay's boyfriend were at the X Galz house party making babies, and I saw one of the babies and it offered me Evan's headphones

lurker306 said:

That’s why I always liked her I feel the same way, I’m not gonna change my style cause I have a kid now. But I suppose it’s a bit of a balance because we are all aging, and you don’t want to be knocking around in a band shirt when your 40

Oh and I’m completely stealing Js 70s style inspo, no shame

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Ehh, Some of us over 40 still wear band t-shirts and we look good. Sorry are we supposed to start shopping in Pamela Scott and give up our sense of style and identity because we are deemed " an Aul one " to twenty somethings? .... .Yours sincerely a 42 Yr not yet ready to rock a shawl .

I’m not sure why people are saying oh Jenny must’ve been in the wrong she didn’t argue for the business/friendship.

Have you ever been in a situation where you felt like you kind of had to stay even though you were really uncomfortable?

To try and make a comparison, I had rented a house with a friend before, I loved her to bits but as time went on I slowly started to realise this isn’t someone I could live with, be around this much etc. I didn’t know how to tell her because she was my good friend, and she hadn’t really done anything to me personally, she was on and off with an absolute idiot... very self destructive and I just found being so involved in her life draining. I found out something that ended our friendship, something I maybe could’ve considered forgiving had we not been living together, but because I was so sick of her and her antics anyway I was happy enough to walk away from the friendship and the current living situation.

Maybe J was delighted, almost relieved even when this big ‘bust up’ happened and wanted out immediately. It gave her that chance. How do you tell your best friend with no degree or previous job experience ‘hey, I wanna end our business’ and not have a big fall out anyway to be fair? She’s probably been thinking of how to get out of this for months now and finally the opportunity arose. Cowardly? Maybe, I dunno, but like I said with my situation above it really was taxing on my mind for months leading up, and that was only a lease on a feckin house, imagine owning a business.

Anyway, defo still team J, even more so after her statement. Notice how she didn’t even post it on her grid, she doesn’t give a fuck about Lindsay or anyone else seeing the supportive comments, who’s ‘statement’ got more likes etc.... I can guarantee you Lindsay is living for that shit at the moment.

Apologies for the rant! Hehe

Tontobby said:

First time poster! I used to never allow myself to post on tattle cos I thought it was toxic but now I think it’s very clear the toxic platform is the Patreon Lindsay is running herself and allowing and taking part in racist undertones. So gross, I’ve just unsubbed. If any of the girls that stood up to her are here, well done!
Admiring your bravery and eloquence

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Im actually Pamela who made the comment. Cant believe her honestly ridiculous. She even said she would do a “Proper Terminology/ BLM” podcast but I actually think its all BS & shes saying this so we leave her alone. The minute her asslickers started commenting at me this morning she switched again & commented that she would block me because im “ rude & condescending” literally for standing up for myself & my opinion She is being obnoxiously racist, dont act stupid & you wont be called out for it. Simple.

Does anyone else highly doubt Evan is unfaithful?

I was at the show lastnight. Me and my friend bought tickets months ago when her and Jenny were still mates, debated getting a refund after the split but then decided sure let's just go and see what it's like. To be honest we were expecting a car crash and went more so out of curiosity as I can't say either of us are actual fans of hers!

To whoever commented saying L said "I miss Jenny", I don't remember her saying that at all! And if she did, it was probably sarcastic because a lot of little digs were made regarding the L & J break up...

So first of all, the seats were not even half way full, which I expected tbh considering she did FOUR shows and like nobody is gonna go twice. I'd say all 4 shows could've been condensed to one and everyone would still fit into the theatre. It wasn't embarrassingly empty, but a BIG difference from their past Vicar St shows... It was mainly just a vulgar comedy show but to be honest L held her own for most of it, there were no awkward moments, and Pete only came on for the introduction and for the "quiz" and Q&A at the end. She talked a lot about "reclaiming the slut" and how she's single now and better off that way. She mentioned how she was sick of being controlled in a relationship and told what to wear/how much to drink/when to wake up etc. She said that Mai is recording a new theme song soon and that she's team Lindsay... And when asked the fuck/marry/kill between Jimmy, Dave (recent ex) and Evan, she said she'd marry Jimmy cos he's a great ride, she'd fuck Dave cos sure she's already done it, and she'd kill Evan cos she doesn't know how anyone could "suck that dick for the rest of their life". Deffo some jealous vibes from L, she said something along the lines of "go buy your house I'm happy out".

The worst part of the show was definitely the audience though! As the night went on and the girls got drunker, so many people were shouting things from the stage and it was honestly so cringey. When the sex toys came out half the crowd turned into animals that had never seen a pink dildo before, begging Lindsay to pick them to win the prize... One girl (who kept telling everyone in the bathroom that she's been on the podcast to talk about her nose job?) jumped onto the stage, got on her hands and knees and sucked off the dildo. I nearly died. Some girl in the front row also kept trying to talk to Lindsay (apparently they're best mates?) and it was lowkey so annoying.

So yeah that was the gist of it. Honestly expected worse. Sorry if that was all over the place, this is my first time posting!

Girls, gays and theys I sincerely doubt anyone on here actually knows J or L personally. Can we stop with the "you're Sarah or J or L or Pete" Half the thread looks like this....

Thread suggestion- Mirror, mirror, and the shawl who's the fairest (It)Gal of all?