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suspecrobot said:

He’s thick as mince, a sleaze, and a self important over privileged waste of space. I completely believe he had sex with Virginia Giuffre. I don’t think he’s mired in it as deep as Maxwell is though, in terms of organising trafficking etc.

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Oh for sure. The fact he went into that BBC interview so blindly unprepared shows how detached from reality and lacking in self awareness he is. The moment early on when he assured us he hung out with JE at a “perfectly ordinary shooting weekend” as if that meant anything ah we all know how it is, rubbing shoulders with billionaire sex offenders at shooting weekends. Happens all the time. As for the fact he had no excuse for staying at his place in New York for a week post conviction. No one stays with a convicted sex offender even if they were previously your best friend unless you at the very least aren’t bothered by it , but most likely complicit.

I don’t think he was part of the trafficking either. That’s too much work and scheming for someone like him. He’s a spoilt entitled British prince (top tier royal family), used to having whatever he wanted brought to him, girls or breakfast, he’s never lifted a finger his entire life and doesn’t seem to have the intelligence or grace to even question that status quo as some of his slightly more thoughtful family members may.
I don’t really think of him as a paedophile either- not like Epstein was. He was attracted to a young ‘jail bait’ age girl in the way men can be rather than children or tween age girls. Epstein would pass girls on to his friends when they got too old for him, that was the case with Virginia at 17.
And her consent or how she got into that situation and what she’d been through wouldn't even have occurred to someone like Andrew. She existed to serve him as footmen and domestic staff had done his whole life. That’s even touched on in the BBC interview when she asks if it ever occurred to him where all the young women came from and he casually says “oh we would only say good morning that sort of thing” Obviously that was also an excuse to save his ass but I think based on some truth about how he usually interacts with staff - politely but distantly. Their personal lives wouldn’t even occur to him.

Bet Prince Andrew is bricking it!

Vanillaco said:

I agree with everything you say. It must have been pretty galling as a child for Charles who had so little affection as a child to see Andrew being spoilt. I think Charles, while obviously not brain of Britain ( none of them are) has a conscience and is thoughtful and concerned about people. Andrew is just concerned about himself, his status and how other people are richer than him even though hes a Royal.


I think it's the latter. Epstein was a convicted sex offender! Its beyond ridiculous to believe that the Palace didnt know and didnt warn Andrew off. There are many stories of The Palace warning journalists off reporting about Andrew, threatening them with refusing access to the Cambridges. Why would they do that?

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This is where I really struggle to understand the hatred for Harry and Megan. I think they were the first ones brave enough to say “fuck this” and get out of there and they got slated for it. Obviously they left more more than one reason but I bet Andrew was one of them. But often it’s the people who yell about how the royals aren’t doing anything that are also hating on H & M all the time.

Taking the fall for others though…. Really? No doubt many other men, guests of Epstein’s, raped the girls involved. No doubt they demanded an endless stream of victims.
But Ghislane is guilty of trafficking and procuring girls. She did that. She’s not taking the fall for anyone. It was her.

With respect to one of the previous posters on this thread who asked what this had to do with the Queen, I’d argue that this has so much to do with her, and that she needs to take more steps to show she supports victims of sex trafficking instead of trying to cover up what’s gone on in attempt to save her family.

I used to be a fan of the royal family and would defend them in the past, citing their involvement in the many charities they support as an example for retaining them. However this whole Epstein involvement has really opened my eyes as to the lengths they will go to try and make bad news go away.

Epstein and Maxwell were first reported to the FBI in 1996. Are we really to believe that royal protection officers, MI6, government etc. don’t do their homework as to who the royals are mixing with? It would defy belief that the Queen wasn’t made aware of who Andrew’s friends were and what they got up. Are we to believe she only found out last year when Epstein was arrested for the second time??

The American journalist, Amy Robach, was caught on camera saying that she had to bury an Epstein/Virginia piece she was working on back in 2011 due to “the palace putting pressure on it” and that her network wouldn’t get access to Wills and Kate during their wedding year if she ran it. It is obvious the palace realise that it’s not in their best interests for joe public to learn that they are hanging about and entertaining paedophiles.

I believe the extremely dodgy sweetheart plea deal that Epstein received back in 2008 is perhaps where some answers to our royal’s involvement lies. Who had the influence to make that happen? There are so many powerful characters in this saga who could have held sway in this; but can you imagine if our own Royal Family “put a word” in an attempt to help their friend Epstein?

Growing up, there were several cases of sexual abuse in my extended family, and I’ve seen first hand the lengths some family members will go to try and maintain the status quo. They enable, they ignore, they disbelieve, and they forgive the unforgivable. When I look at how the Queen has behaved during this, she reminds me exactly of them. I sincerely believe that the attempt to cover up the royal connection to Epstein will become the Queen’s legacy long after she’s gone.

suspecrobot said:

What the heck has it got to do with the Queen? She’s made her feelings clear by already pretty much banishing him from public life. What’s she supposed to do, grab him by the ear and march him down to the police station?

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She's made her feelings clear by banishing him only after public outcry and after his disaster interview, when she had no other choice, which is when she did the bare minimum she had to and then with the intention to rehabilitate him and bring him back, as if never anything happened. Only after that was known and more and more orgs dropped him, was it let known that his "retirement" would be permanent.

Then she had him in the car with her at ca Xmas time in Sandringham, grinning and laughing. That's how she puts out messages, and the message is clear. Andy did no wrong in her eyes and remains her favourite.

LadyLockdown said:

Agree. The whole diplomatic immunity is archaic - not that it should have ever had a place in society, imo. It basically lets dimplomats get away with murder or other heinous crimes. Despicable.

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Agree, on the regular, everywhere. It's a shame, to say the least.

I wonder if this is why the CEOs of most big company has stepped down in the last few months.. why Oprah, Kimmel and Ellens shows have all been cancelled. I wonder if they've been given the heads up that they were tracking her and close to an arrest. I personally think the dirt is already on those though in their own right. I always knew something big was coming after all them CEOs stepped down.. if its not this, its something else.

KINGAA said:

At the moment, I find it hard to feel sorry for most of the people involved and that includes some of the girls, which I find personally very conflicting.

I completely understand grooming etc, but to entice your best friends in for money and jewellery knowing what that entails and basically doing maxwells dirty work for her doesn’t fully sit right for me. I guess because when I was 17 I fully knew sexually what was right and what was wrong and I could never see myself allowing people I cared for being put through that horrific ordeal.

I guess it’s one of those things, it’s hard to understand if you don’t go through it, but I just find myself just being so conflicted over it. I don’t want to start a war here but that’s my thoughts and feelings over it generally.

Also, Virginias father going mad on GMB about the whole thing, where were you? You allowed your CHILD to fly on a plane with complete stranger around the world, you were also taking her to his mansion for crying out loud!!! What did he think a young girl was doing at a millionaires mansion without parent supervision?!

I just think this whole thing is much much bigger than just Epstein and Maxwell!

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I think, respectfully, there are 2 major things here you’re not thinking about-
1. Not everyone is like you, or had the upbringing or opportunities you had.
2. Rich old men who know better “buying” young girls with relatively small amounts of money/ relatively small
Gifts to flatter them/ make them feel obliged to return the favour in sex is *exactly* what this is all about. You think it’s ok because it’s so normalised, but this is where the tide is turning. Thank goodness.

I was on a school holiday in Spain - aged 15 and was invited to what I thought was a party at the apartment of the man who held exercise classes on the beach. I thought it was going to be lots of other people, however it was just him and his wife/partner who asked me if I was into threesomes fairly soon after I walked in the door. I turned and walked straight out. All my alarm bells had gone off. I don’t think I even knew what a threesome was. I had forgotten about this for a long time as I had blotted it out as something unpleasant and that had made me feel uncomfortable. Makes me shudder now wondering how many other teenagers he had preyed on.

Oh gosh, everyone from trump to the royal family and deliciously Ella must be worried tonight about more dirt coming out

I feel so frustrated with the language used by the media when reporting on this case.

an underage girl is a CHILD. She wasn’t trafficking underage girls she was trafficking CHILDREN.

and it’s not ‘non-consensual’ sex, it’s RAPE!

Yel said:

Oh gosh, everyone from trump to the royal family and deliciously Ella must be worried tonight about more dirt coming out

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YES. Honestly, Deliciously Ella's parents knowing Epstein is so incredibly juicy.

I think I will use my freedom of speech whilst i still have it, thank you. Its already increasingly hard to find any so called "conspiracies" online, the only videos YouTube post are anti-conspiracy theory. We aren't my even allowed to ask questions anymore. There aren't any links because the msm doesn't report on them. Its only pieces of information that we have, that we piece together. The fact that people are talking "conspiracies" on this particular thread is because her accomplice suddenly "killed himself" in a police cell, independent post mortem said that death was most likely by murder. Cctv from outside his cell was "lost". The whole thing STINKS. Msm will just say "Epstein killed himself". We all know he didn't. No proof though, sorry. I think if you want to just stick to the facts then you won't find any anywhere.. especially the msm. More likely to find them here from people who are watching behind the scenes.

Noname1995 said:

Guys I don’t think it’s right telling people what and what not to post, this site is literally a gossip site. If you want to stick to real hard evidence your honestly unlikely to get it on tattle
I understand posting pointless lies, but people are only innocently adding theories and other point of views.

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I have to agree with this, I understand some things may turn out to be completely untrue as the link to the BBC news article is most likely, who are we to tell a poster they 'aren't allowed' to post something when there's no concrete evidence that it's true or untrue.

So far on this thread the only real facts are that Maxwell and Epstein and their accomplices were monsters and that she has been arrested. The rest we won't and I suspect may never know the full details so I like to read what people are thinking. It's wrong to tell someone they have to stick to concrete evidence on a website where we have freedom of speech. I like gossip and I like this site so please can we continue to do so without telling each other off over something so ridiculous and probably does belong on this thread.

The names of celebs that went to his sex island... she dead soon.

Just saw it on fb. Had to post it I think be the fall guy or will do a deal and name 'less famous' people

suspecrobot said:

There we are then.

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Given how appallingly he performed in the TV interview that he thought ‘went very well’, I dread to think of the trouble he could talk himself into with FBI interrogators - even if he’s entirely innocent.

thegirlscout said:

I was shocked by how little she was given. Surely something of that magnitude would be 30 years at least I would have thought.

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It's 20 years more than even one single man (or maybe there were women too, who knows) has been given for actually sleeping with the girls.

Think on that for a moment.

An absolutely enormous young/underage sex ring thing involving hundreds or maybe thousands of people and carrying on for years, and the sum total of people prosecuted is ONE WOMAN.

WTAF. Scandalous.

Horatio said:

Oh for sure. The fact he went into that BBC interview so blindly unprepared shows how detached from reality and lacking in self awareness he is. The moment early on when he assured us he hung out with JE at a “perfectly ordinary shooting weekend” as if that meant anything ah we all know how it is, rubbing shoulders with billionaire sex offenders at shooting weekends. Happens all the time. As for the fact he had no excuse for staying at his place in New York for a week post conviction. No one stays with a convicted sex offender even if they were previously your best friend unless you at the very least aren’t bothered by it , but most likely complicit.

I don’t think he was part of the trafficking either. That’s too much work and scheming for someone like him. He’s a spoilt entitled British prince (top tier royal family), used to having whatever he wanted brought to him, girls or breakfast, he’s never lifted a finger his entire life and doesn’t seem to have the intelligence or grace to even question that status quo as some of his slightly more thoughtful family members may.
I don’t really think of him as a paedophile either- not like Epstein was. He was attracted to a young ‘jail bait’ age girl in the way men can be rather than children or tween age girls. Epstein would pass girls on to his friends when they got too old for him, that was the case with Virginia at 17.
And her consent or how she got into that situation and what she’d been through wouldn't even have occurred to someone like Andrew. She existed to serve him as footmen and domestic staff had done his whole life. That’s even touched on in the BBC interview when she asks if it ever occurred to him where all the young women came from and he casually says “oh we would only say good morning that sort of thing” Obviously that was also an excuse to save his ass but I think based on some truth about how he usually interacts with staff - politely but distantly. Their personal lives wouldn’t even occur to him.

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Absolutely spot on. Hes incredibly thick and entitled with a contempt for anyone he sees as beneath him. It was obvious those young girls were seen by him and everyone at that party as servants who were there to service him. They were of no consequence. If he doesnt remember underage girls being around and he doesnt remember wondering why girls the same age as his daughters were shagging old men it was because he simply didnt care. They were at best, staff and at worst not even human.He is and was so stupid that he was dazzled by the baubles and wealth he felt he should have as a matter of right. He has no moral compass. That is down to his family and the way they have allowed their children to grow up.

Just me, or incredibly weird timing that Rupaul wipes his Twitter & insta clean yesterday then deleted both accounts?