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Yoghurtpots said:

I think I will use my freedom of speech whilst i still have it, thank you. Its already increasingly hard to find any so called "conspiracies" online, the only videos YouTube post are anti-conspiracy theory. We aren't my even allowed to ask questions anymore. There aren't any links because the msm doesn't report on them. Its only pieces of information that we have, that we piece together. The fact that people are talking "conspiracies" on this particular thread is because her accomplice suddenly "killed himself" in a police cell, independent post mortem said that death was most likely by murder. Cctv from outside his cell was "lost". The whole thing STINKS. Msm will just say "Epstein killed himself". We all know he didn't. No proof though, sorry. I think if you want to just stick to the facts then you won't find any anywhere.. especially the msm. More likely to find them here from people who are watching behind the scenes.

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The problem is the mainstream media couldn't voice suspicion that he may not have killed himself even if they (and millions of other people) think so. They are constrained by press rules just as they should be. Places like this are where you can come to discuss what you really think and what you may have heard from this, that or the other.

Conspiracy theories tend to eat themselves if you keep following them. Who benefits from the demonisation of the media - who largely are obliged to provide facts and not to speculate? Those in power benefit from that because anything that's just "suspected" can't really be reported on as news.

But who is mostly responsible for the media themselves behind the scenes (i.e. the companies, the money)? Again, it's those in power - Murdoch etc. There will always be rich and powerful people who will shell out whatever they need to in order to carry on doing whatever it is they want to do undisturbed, but the only thing we genuinely have to go on is facts. The press - and particularly the independent investigative journalists - are literally the last boundary of factual honesty standing before the entire activities of the world. No wonder every day the attempts to tear them down get more and more vociferous. Thanks to the internet, if we didn't have real press reporters and journalists working hard against the odds and threats galore, then nobody would ever know what was real and what was not.

The thing is, if she does get killed, they’ll say it’s suicide or illness. Every man and his dog will smell a rat as per JE but nothing will happen. No one on power is answerable to the law.

Look at the child abuse dossier on Tory donors that Theresa May “lost”. The child abuse enquiry that was such a (deliberate) shambles it just faded away before it got off the ground.

No different in the States or rest of the world.

They operate by having stuff on each other. They’re all fucking corrupt. Anyone who starts with good intentions is either corrupted, silenced or lose the energy to fight it.

To me, Prince Andrews biggest downfall was his arrogance. I believe that he genuinely thought these young girls ‘wanted’ him. I don’t think he realised they were trafficked and paid.
The other powerful men were likely more aware of the reality and prepared accordingly.

openbook1 said:

I am sure he will try to stop the investigation.

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Why would he authorise an investigation, get an arrest then stop it? If he was guilty of anything connected with Epstein then the media would be all over it. The only implications of a connection they have are a few photos of them together in a paparazzi shot. They were both papped with thousands of people. Epstein had been operating his paedophile network since the 90's (94-97) so why is Trump the only President who has investigated it? Why was he the only person apart from the victims of Epstein's abuse, to cooperate with the FBI and why were both Epstein and Maxwell arrested whilst he is in charge?

knickerbocker glory said:

Will anything happen to the powerful people who were involved in all this? How can they find her guilty and them not have any consequences?

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They found her guilty because she is guilty. They now need to go after the other people involved .

I find the whole thing bizarre, and there’s very much a “well that’s it then” vibe to this that I don’t trust. There are more questions than answers that have come out of this. It’s clearly a correct verdict and she’s an awful person, but still…

After all this Epstein remains a completely shadowy figure. Where did his enormous wealth come from? He lived the life of an off the charts multi-billionaire but what were his actual revenue sources? He has been removed or self-removed who knows, and now the same is happening to her.

The defence seemed kind of pathetic to me. The whole thing over in 2 weeks?? Why didn’t she testify? Why were no co-conspirators named in the trial?

I don’t think this will go anywhere else. That’s it. I think the whole thing is now going to be locked away in a vault and that’s an end to it. Guislaine will get sentenced to about 20 years and be out in 10. Nothing else will emerge from this.

Gym&Tonic said:

That is weird. Wonder what that’s all about?

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Apparently he hasn’t been active on social media since March, remaining silent during BLM & Pride, so what happened yesterday to make him want to scrub his accounts?

I heard Sarah Ransome talking on radio 4 about how evil GM is. This woman is a sadist who enjoys hurting other people. How she has the brass neck to be appealing her sentence is beyond me. The evidence against her is compelling and I’m sure that she was just as culpable as Epstein. Their ‘relationship’ was never even real because he was never attracted to grown women. Giving even more weight to the reality that she was not doing this because he manipulated her.

I will be the first to say that women are held to higher standards to men and that misogyny is still appalling. People definitely make more excuses for male predators and criminals.

But in this case, GM got exactly what she deserves. She’s an absolute sociopath.

Stillwater said:

The Beeb are reporting this very strangely - after the guilty verdict still calling the girls “accusers”. Something very stinky going on (and I am not a Beeb detractor - though they make it hard sometimes).

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I've noticed they keep referring to JE as a "disgraced financier" too. Erm, he was a convicted sex offender!

So glad this thread exists. I’m fascinated by how this is going to play out (though my fascination is dampened by the thought of all those poor girls who got caught up in this seedy world of course )

Imagine. Maxwell has more tea than Whittards, wonder if she’ll spill or be spilled...

Bitofthebubbly said:

The Ellen Show also has not been cancelled. And neither has Kimmel’s show, production stopped briefly due to covid, same with Oprah although she was a little more dramatic and cancelled all her plans for the year. Can we stick to the facts?

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Aaah those bloody facts. They always get in the way of a good story/gossip.