Athena

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I don't like the whole "I didn't post/create content from my trip to Dubai as I didn't want to be insensitive to people who can't go on holiday right now"... how selfless of her. As if! Just didn't want to get caught and deliberately mislead people in order to do so. I thought that part was a bit manipulative. If you're going to admit you messed up, don't then try to spin it to make yourself look good.

The excuse was very weak overall. Then again I think I'm on a different planet to these people.
 
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dutchover

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It’s nonessential travel, plain and simple. During a pandemic where a new virus variant is taking off in the UK. If there is a Dubai trip, it’s selfish and inexcusable. Just because things may be legal doesn’t mean they’re right.

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londongirl2001

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I mean.....in the end she will get out if this unscathed. Yeah she might lose a subscriber or two, but whatever she will say about Dubai (not an apology though, I don't think she will do that), she will get lots of support and sympathy. Followers/subscribers have always been very good at coddling and protecting influencers. Which is how they got to be where they are in the first place: by pretending to be your cool friend, more relatable than a movie star, so you must defend them like they're family even if they f*ck up.
 
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CheshireLove

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Look at her IG stories- another beautiful PR trip for Fleur. Must be nice.
She gets sent on a trip/hotel stay/event every year by Viktor and Rolf. I couldn’t tell you how many bottles of their perfume I’ve purchased over years. It would be nicer if their loyal customers (you know, the people who spend their own money on the perfume) were able to win a trip like this, rather than see Lady Fleur enjoy another lavish hotel stay she doesn’t deserve and has at this point probably come to expect as a given each year.
 
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LurkyLou

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Sorry, perhaps it is an unpopular opinion but I really don’t see why Fleur is any better than the Saccone Joly’s or any other family. They both film their children. They both include their children in sponsored ads. They both make money off their children.

The one and only difference is that you like Fleur so she gets given more of a pass. She is doing the same thing - albeit perhaps to a lesser degree, at least for now - and just because she is liked, it really doesn’t change that. Either you approve of influencers using their kids to make money or you don’t, it’s not a case of allowing some to get away with it because they’re better to watch than others.
Fleur approaches vlogging very differently to your bog-standard family vlogger. For starters, she doesn't do it all the time. Yes River is in Fleur's vlogs. But she is literally with her 24/7 right now. She always vlogs this time of year. It would impossible to do so without occasionally seeing or hearing River in the background. River is still too young to be left unattended in another room and Mike goes to work.

To Fleur's credit, most of the time we don't actually see River straight on. She usually gets her from the side, the back, or she gives us a wide shot of what activity River is doing with them. I'm not going to get bent out of shape every time this happens. It's just the struggle that most of us with kids are going through right now. They are always there. As long as Fleur doesn't start making her daughter do tons of adverts or invade her privacy by shoving a camera in her face, expecting her to perform, I can grant her a little grace. Just a little though. ;) If River becomes less of a cameo appearance and more of a main attraction, I'm willing to bet most of will have a thing or two to say about it.
 
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londongirl2001

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Ah yes, it's the best choice for your child to only socially interact with the same social class and, by total coincidence, exclusively white people. It has nothing to do with "what's best for your child", it's purely based on separating social classes and keeping up the divide between groups. Nothing more. River will grow up in that system for the sole purpose of finding equally rich friends and a rich partner to marry later on. This is not about her education or actual well-being. Nor is it for any other kid that's being sent to private school or boarding schools. At least one of the women I worked for in London was honest about it; she and her husband spent all their money on their kids' private school fees so they could form friendships in higher social circles. I remember her telling me (in front of one of the kids) that there were "many important children" in the daughter's class. Meaning, they were the kids of celebrities, politicians and other wealthy people.

Having said all that, it's the least surprising thing about Fleur and Mike that they would send their daughter to an expensive private school. What else would they do? :-D But I think it's totally ok to voice one's opinion on that :)
 
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Memmy

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Breaking the rules is killing people

Claiming ignorance is like spitting on the graves of those that have died
 
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Viceroy

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For someone who thinks she is so smart, so superior in intellect to her followers (admittedly most of them are thick enough to buy her spiel about ‘waiting’ conscientiously to alter her nose, she is a fool. Any basic idiot would avoid filler/Botox/caffeine/ alcohol if they were truly desperate for a baby.
If she isn’t careful, Mike is going to leave her for a brood mare. I remember how much he clearly wanted a son and how upset he was when they found out they were having a girl. If she can’t produce a male heir, he’ll be off like a shot.
Of course he won't, what a horrible thing to say. He's not Henry VIII. He will be supporting her. It's probably very difficult for him too.

I wouldn't be doing the botox whilst TTC myself but I don't think there's anything wrong with a few coffees. I imagine they are under a fertility specialist by now too who is a qualified professional advising them.
 
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Swatkat

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No matter how much we call her out, all her apologies are fake. She is never gonna care, she will do as she pleases but might not show it online anymore. Even if she does an apology video it’s gonna be manipulative in some way. We found out because someone spotted her in Dubai, but what if no one had. How many more sneaky vacations would she have taken in the future or actually have been on in the past ? Looking back , how do I trust her that she has diligently followed lockdown rules as she says she has? How many posts were fake then? Bottom line is she isn’t really getting affected. YouTube isn’t her bread and butter, out of her 770k followers only a few hundred have called her out for this. But sadly her behaviour affects other ppl directly or indirectly but doesn’t affect her in anyway. She can quit YouTube tomo and nothing would change in her lifestyle.
 
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I just saw on Fleur’s Q&A that her and Mike got married when she was 25… that’s so crazy. I know she’s generally quite conscious of not flaunting her wealth too much, but that really got to me - I can’t imagine anyone I know having a wedding of that scale, buying a wedding dress in NYC and buying it its own seat on the flight home and also living in/renovating a house of that size. Don’t get me wrong, I am positively green with envy - I’m 25 and got married a few months ago, except my wife and I had a service with 10 people, got our dresses in the ASOS sale and feel staggeringly lucky to own a draughty 2 bedroom ex-council house. But wow. Knowing by my age Fleur had all that really puts into perspective just how privileged she is.
 
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londongirl2001

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I think Fleur is pretty but the thing regular botox users like her dont understand is that it takes away your face's youthfulness. The shiny, tight forehead and lack of eyebrow movement immediately ages people. Yes, your skin looks super smooth but why, if you're still that young, would you want to make your face immobile??
 
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idk2

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For me, its not the fact she went to Dubai. If I were going to cut people off for going abroad during a pandemic, I would have no virtually no one left I could talk to. Its the fact that she lied. And not even just small little one-off lies, she fully unpromptedly said they wouldn't think of travelling anytime soon as River is at the age where she touches everything which is why they didn't take her to London with them. I'm sorry but what changed in that week? Was she trying to shake people of the scent? 🤣 And also the fact that she DEFINITELY knew what tier she was in on boxing day, so she needs to give off with all that misunderstanding shit bc she watched Boris speech when he outlined London would be T4 and have no Xmas so I imagine she was also watching on the 23rd when they outlined all the areas moving up a tier on Boxing day. I'm sure she lives in Milton Keynes or thereabouts which would be T4 from boxing day so maybe her area missed it by a couple of miles but the fact that she thinks that justifies her actions is laughable. "Strongly unadvisable" meansDONT GO. Thats the most you're going to get from this govt in the form of "no"

I can only imagine her tears and meltdowns over the last week. I'm not a woe-is-me type person but I have been working throughout this pandemic, no PPE, no social distancing, no fucking support from the govt and still don't think I deserve a break abroad in a global pandemic. A day in BED will do. It just shows how out of touch these people are that they believe they need a break bc they've been sat at home on their asses for 9+ months. I'm SO sorry Fleur, it must have been SO TOUGH.
 
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fallouou

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I don't think I could ever like an influencer enough to fight with strangers on the internet about them. Fleur is more than capable of fighting her own battles and if not then she needs a new line of work.
Exactly this. The people defending her like as if she's their mother mixed in with the "thank goodness you're back. Missed you and your content so much!!" crowd make me want to vom. She has lied to you, and manipulates you on the daily to flog shit to fund her wealthy lifestyle. Why do you care so much about her like as if she's some worthwhile presence in your life.
 
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Hi all,

We've had some reports on this thread. It's against the rules to post on someones feed or encourage an account to do this. I realize the account in question doesn't appear to have overstepped the mark yet. But I think it's best to not talk about it anymore as it often very quickly gets into trolling territory and discredits everyone. These rules aren't to zap the fun but for everyone's benefit and to stay out of grey areas.

I hope you understand why the "keep it on tattle" rule is our #1 rule

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londongirl2001

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Nigel Farage isn’t a Conservative MP? He left in 1992 so hasn’t been affiliated with the Conservatives in a very long time. I think it’s highly likely Mike and Fleur are Conservative voters. There are good and bad people on both sides of the political fence, if they vote Tory I don’t think it’s fair to make assumptions on their character because of it.
Nah, it is :) if people voted for, say Trump, I'm very comfortable making assumptions on their character, same goes for UK folks who vote for the current conservatives :)
 
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Lexie86

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Wow I've missed a lot. I knew just knew that as soon as the 'guys we're not doing part 6 of vlogmas' she was up to something. I thought it was just seeing family and not wanting to share it but to have the audacity to go to Dubai then try to cover it up. Utterly shameful imo. She has absolutly no reason whatsoever to be leaving the country, personally this should be getting cracked down on. If basically turned into one rule for the rich and privileged and screw the rest of you. I knew this what feels like a two tier society would happen.

The way she's went on all year is just utterly hypocritical. I just have no words for what she's done while the NHS gets hammered and we're all suffering lack of seeing family and friends and so much more. Heck I'd love to go in holiday but I know it's just not the right time. People like fleur and the rest of those that have buggard off to Dubai and the Caribbean should really have a long hard look at themselves. Disgusted isn't even a strong enough word.
 
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