GossipBlue

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Exactly, it’s so strange.
I wonder if these women just crave attention really.
I think they must lack something in their life to be honest. Why does every minute of your life have to be recorded. Just live your life and put the camera down.

I do appreciate a lot of instagrammers are raising awareness like bowel babe is for bowel cancer. But I think their is a line that shouldn’t be crossed. It’s a bit weird when you see them putting up photos of themselves crying with a comment saying “just had bad news”. Blimey! When I was diagnosed with cancer the last thing I thought about was catching it on camera. I just sat holding my husbands hand crying. It was a really intimate and emotional time. I didn’t need to share it - not even with other family members. The advertising whilst they are poorly also baffles me. Some of these women don’t need the money either. Just enjoy your family time x
 
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As a mama of 3 angel babies it did upset me it cost so much. I couldn't afford one. Probably just me being over emotional but it did make me feel like there was some elitism to a week that is meant to focus on so much more than a product
I’m sorry for your loss 💔

I follow Myleene Klass on Instagram, she has suffered multiple miscarriages and campaigns for women, actually using her platform to change the rules to support all women who suffer miscarriages. She lit candles yesterday, not branded, gifted or hashtagged ones to promote a business, she just lit normal candles to reflect and remember her loss.
 
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taytaylor

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The other day Elle was on her stories and went to say the word shit, stopped herself and said I won’t say it because everyone has got kids at home... has she forgot once upon a time her main demographic was bereaved families 🤒
 
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Be More Pacific

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Didn't she come on here once saying everyone was massively exaggerating her husband's salary and he didn't get anywhere near that?? Sure Elle, trying telling us that one again whilst ramming the literal thousands you are dropping on a downstairs loo down our throats....!!
Yeah, it was me she took exception to for saying he earns £200,000 a year minimum. She said it was easy to Google and come up with that figure without realising I worked in the mortgage industry for 24 years and have done dozens of mortgages for bankers/traders. I've pored over their payslips, assessed their bank statements, looked at proof of their bonuses - I know what they earn. He's an oil trader and his LinkedIn now states he's a VP as well. They ain't poor.

I think he's just far more conservative than her with spending, which is why the renovation is slow.

Also, not sure why she needs a massive boot room when she just has a fucking pug either 🤷🏻‍♀️
 
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Be More Pacific

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I have never lost a baby and I'm not Elle either, so I don't know how she feels. I did think that her continuing to raise awareness and fundraise for those who have lost babies was an incredibly brave thing to do. With the best will in the world, submersing yourself in such acute tragedy must take an almighty toll on your mental health. Likewise, trying to have another baby whilst being a campaigner must have been very difficult. I wouldn't be able to do both. I'm certain it's not really a good idea either. How do you have hope in the midst of such agony? I don't blame her at all for backing off, but obviously it goes without saying that you need to make it clear to people if your previous offer of assistance and support no longer stands.

I too found her benefitting from various freebies and expensive ones at that, to be jarring to say the least. I personally would not feel comfortable to post about baby loss one day and Ads and free gifts the next. I would find it impossible to bear living with an item given to me for free, but with the expectation of publicising the item, when I have received it as a direct consequence of my baby dying. She should have had two accounts at the very least. The thought of bereaved parents on their knees with grief, who sought Elle's page in the hope of some comfort and empathy only to discover an advert for something she had received for free, is really upsetting. I think it was a huge mistake to brag about how expensive alterations to their home were and how much they spent on what was essentially a small extension. Most families can't afford a single course of IVF. Elle, I think, had several courses and I thought she paid for some, if not all. On top of that they spent £100,000 on home alterations. You can buy a house for less than that. Obviously they can do what they want with their money, but the problem is that it did not sit well within a platform she also used for fundraising for baby loss.

I find the new book crass. There are so many mums and dads out there, who have bought Elle's book, followed her story, read her blog and will never have their rainbow. That's not Elle's fault, but it does feel as though she has metaphorically and literally slammed the door in their faces. The other problem I have is that it doesn't sound as though she has taken time off Instagram to be solely with her baby, as she claimed.She's been writing her book. That's fine, but why lie? Also, do you think she signed a contract to write a book before her daughter was born? Surely not, so why the rush? I'm not sure that I'd want to write another book about pregnancy, to follow on from the devastation of losing Teddy and including even more tales of loss, but maybe that's just me.

Finally, I really dislike her faux horror and refusal of freebies. I definately believe selling your kids is horrendous. Their privacy and safety is worth more than a free pram, carrier or toys. The problem is that she's a hypocrite. She's being smug about something she did for years.

They don't owe anyone a photo, but if they are genuinely keeping photos for her book, then that is pretty bad. I can't imagine a book without photos of their daughter. It's selling her to the highest bidder, which isn't those who've cried for her and Teddy. It's a publishing company who can hand over hard cash.

I don't blame Elle for wanting to do happy baby stuff and for not wanting to be one of those parents we all hate, those whose kids are sold on a daily basis. But I think an explanation is the least she can do. Personally I'd stop posting on Feathering the Empty Nest on Instagram and the blog, signing off with a thank you and an explanation. If she's desperate she could open another Instagram account for herself, her house or whatever.

I wish them the happiest of futures. But she needs to make it very clear whether her offer of support has been withdrawn. Parents at rock bottom deserve much more than the treatment she has apparently been dishing out. I think she's going to have awkward questions raised about the profits made from the book too, assuming it sells.
Very well said 👏🏼

And you have touched upon something I have always felt uncomfortable with, but never really wanted to say it out loud for fear of being branded a bitch, but the accepting of freebies, such as Wimbledon tickets or that weekend break to Norfolk with four of their mates, on the back of your dead child has never sat right with me. I don't really get what angle the companies involved are coming from either. Your child died? Here, have some free tickets to The Chelsea Flower Show and cheer up?

And the sainthood bestowed upon her from some quarters on here for not accepting freebies for her new baby is also a joke. NEWSFLASH ~ THEY HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY TO BUY WHATEVER THEY NEED! Plus I think she's savvy enough (although not reading the current room too well) to be well aware of how much support she would lose if she did.

And ok, I admit it, I am still fucked off about her accepting that washing machine. The model was around a grand IIRC. Pocket change to them. And also the garden furniture just before she slinked away on maternity leave.
 
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Noname123

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“Underestimated reno life with a toddler”

Oh you’ve got a toddler have you?

Oh you’re renovating your new house are you?

This woman is honesty acting like Kylie Jenner during her first pregnancy.

Why is everything such a secret???? We’ve all got kids and houses chill out hun, you’re not special.

Fuckkkk offfffffffffff.

No one cares.

Bored of it.

Why is she creeping back????
 
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Noname123

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I have no doubt that Elle is a fantastic mother. I’ve never questioned that for a second. She has wanted this baby so much for so long and obviously she is very precious to her. I just find it bizarre that she completely ignores her existence on her social media where a few months ago she shared her TTC and PAL journey so openly. WEIRD. If it is because of her new book then that’s kind of gross. I won’t be buying this one like I did the last, especially after all the mean girl stories about her are starting to come out the woodwork. She clearly thinks an awful lot of herself. Also, wish she’d fuck off with her small business shares. It’s BORING. If I want to buy something I’m perfectly capable of sourcing it myself, dick head.
 
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vallend

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“Another one of these to get us through”.. a fucking £600 air conditioner when she already has one. She’s insufferable with her sly showing off.

I, like a lot of people, am trying to get through the heatwave with a toddler whose room goes past 28 degrees at night with the current weather with no air conditioning because it’s too expensive. There’s a cost of living crisis, she is so out of touch. Which is fine she can afford two air conditioners but it’s the bragging which just makes me sick.
 
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JE172

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This is the thing that has finally made me stop lurking. I paid the best part of £1000 for my Cotswold Co dresser, and I don’t have a bloody banker husband making a fortune. Funny how she’s back now she has a bigger house to fill.
I wonder what increase in sales companies like this see? and if its worth more than the damage it does to their reputation to other customers, like you, who are justifiably pissed off with their "gifts" to totally undeserving people. I never click on affiliate links and try as much as possible not to buy from companies who give free stuff to these sham influencers. :mad:
 
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FraggleRock

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Agreed - wouldn't it be better to share what she was campaigning about e.g. symptoms of bowel cancer, than a picture of you two together?
This!! I’ve not seen one of these ‘heartbroken’ influenzas share any of the signs of bowel cancer, or signposting people to fundraising campaigns, it’s just a token RIP post, then back to shilling whatever shitty product they’ve been paid to advertise that day 🙄
 
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Bgr101

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I agree with what she is saying when she says shes not a counsellor and i imagine she was very much struggling herself and was told by a therapist or someone she needed to set boundaries and this was her way of doing it but she got it completely wrong in the way she did it. In honesty she would have been better not replying at all as opposed to saying she couldnt help and belittling people. To me it just comes down to her wanting to tell her story she doesnt really give a damn about anyone elses but she doesnt mind taking your money.

The sad thing is many people approaching her thought she cared and learned the hard way. She has 100% come back to instagram begrudgingly because she knows in a few months itll be all systems go with this new book. Its a big money making machine, nothing more nothing less.
 
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Notsurereally

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Despite her obviously trying for years to get pregnant and fertility treatment and miscarriages, I do think she will go on to have another baby. That would be lovely. Will she give up social media and enjoy it in peace or will there be another book 🤔
If her latest activity (or lack thereof) is anything to go by, I think she'll disappear. She clearly doesn't want to be on the app in the same manner anymore. I know she's absolutely got her faults, but I actually think it would be quite refreshing if she did just disappear. She'll have raised the awareness she wanted to raise, can leave the page open as a resource and get on with her life. It would be better than desperately trying to cling on with #ad after #ad!
 
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Faceymcfacey

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I think Tattle is so important for balanced, nuanced conversation. And this ad really needs discussing with that in mind. I don't want to get into mindlessly tearing women down, but I do believe we have to call each other out when something isn't right. And this particular ad feels off. Bad taste, and wrong. It goes against an awful lot of things that have previously been campaigned for. In one breath we are being told how careful we must be when asking a person is this their first child (happy to take on board and consider that in future interactions). We must be sensitive. In the next breath making wildly baseless tenuous links about the ability of supplements. With what seems like very little consideration to the sensitivities of mothers who are ttc. In fact some of the posts seem very insensitive to a lot of people, those who can't afford these vitamins, £400 dresses, those who came for the community which is slowly being eroded. As is her right, but to use the same platform, knowing that influence - yikes! Feels like a step way too far.
 
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LittleMissRuby

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Ugh I never wanted to Tattle on Elle, she is someone I actually admired. Her ads weren't over bearing and I was genuinely interested to hear her story on secondary infertility.
BUT did I really just see her #ad on CANNED FRUIT FLAVOURED WATER, what the fuck? Does she realise there are some of us shitting our pants about the rising cost of living, and she is posting ads about flavoured waters that cost £1+ a can, REALLY
 
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Pass_the_popcorn

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I don’t believe Elle isn’t talking about her motherhood after loss because she does not want to. I believe she’s not talking about it because she will have that in book 2 or 3 and wants to make money from it.
 
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GingerSquid

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The very definition of that little gathering last night was a "cunts' circus" 😒

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There was someone on here who had dabbled with the Influencer thing and was mildly successful and went to a few of these “dinner / drinks gatherings” and said how awful and cliquey they are (surprise!). That was in the era where Clemmie Hooper dominated them 😂 I think they all think we are sitting at home jealous (and maybe some people are) I personally couldn’t think of anywhere I rather be LESS!
 
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Clare

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Nothing says intimate girls dinner like a load of gifted sushi. Have a day off ladies, you leeches.
 
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