SqualorVictoria
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I don't think the hair makes her look quirky or cool, it makes her look like someone who is trying too hard to be quirky or cool and is therefore a total melt
Jelly Bean
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I literally have no idea what she stands for now as she's backtracked on almost everything.
Proud to be large - tummy tuck
Tweakments are an insult to women - botox/fillers
Feminist - seems to write about how hard it is for boys/men all the time
Socialist - big house, private schools
Obviously all her choice but what is the point of her now?
Proud to be large - tummy tuck
Tweakments are an insult to women - botox/fillers
Feminist - seems to write about how hard it is for boys/men all the time
Socialist - big house, private schools
Obviously all her choice but what is the point of her now?
NomDeGuerre
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Why is she so obsessed with genitalia? In my social circle of reasonably well-adjusted adults, I don’t know any woman who’d define their feminism by how often they wank or any man confident in their non-toxic masculinity who’d conflate that with happily chatting dick size with their nearest and dearest.
As with her treatise on feminism, Moron has resolutely failed to address the socio-economic factors that have a bearing on how masculinity is codified and displayed in the UK.
She is the walking, talking personification of the London media bubble. If you ain’t straight, white, knocking 50 and living in an Islington town house, she literally cannot begin to fathom your viewpoint.
As with her treatise on feminism, Moron has resolutely failed to address the socio-economic factors that have a bearing on how masculinity is codified and displayed in the UK.
She is the walking, talking personification of the London media bubble. If you ain’t straight, white, knocking 50 and living in an Islington town house, she literally cannot begin to fathom your viewpoint.
maytoseptember
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Justifying Botox in this way is veering dangerously choice to “choice feminism”, which is absolute bullshit. I don’t really care if women completely wax off their pubes, pump their lips with filler or freeze their lines with Botox, but don’t tell me it’s empowering just because you chose to do it. We don’t make decisions in a vacuum. Women are socialised to feel shame for having pubic hair, for having thin lips and for ageing.
Caitlin and her equally twatty media/creative pals are the epitome of peak posh white lady feminism. She has made a whole career out of being a former fat teen who had the tremendous hardship of being raised in the Midlands.
She has spent more years living the London media type lifestyle than the amount of time she spent in alleged poverty however will still peddle it to sell her column and books.
Went off her when she was was questioned by someone on twitter as to why she didn’t ask the equally odious Lena Dunham about the lack of diversity on her show Girls during an interview,
Moran’s answer was that she literally couldn’t give a shit or words to that effect.
Expect Pete bore off Paphides to step in and tweet something oh so clever and witty to defend his wife as soon as he discovers this thread.
She has spent more years living the London media type lifestyle than the amount of time she spent in alleged poverty however will still peddle it to sell her column and books.
Went off her when she was was questioned by someone on twitter as to why she didn’t ask the equally odious Lena Dunham about the lack of diversity on her show Girls during an interview,
Moran’s answer was that she literally couldn’t give a shit or words to that effect.
Expect Pete bore off Paphides to step in and tweet something oh so clever and witty to defend his wife as soon as he discovers this thread.
Old Harold
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I thought she was funny when she was a teenager writing for Melody Maker 30 years ago. I'm her age, so it's weird to read her now and it's like she's trapped in amber style-wise, I get no sense of her having grown up at all. Her writing has this weird musty feeling, making me think of pints of snakebite and disappointing Wonder Stuff gigs. How is she getting away with it indeed?
antinoos
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Ive had the misfortune to hang out with these broads: Caitlin and India and some cunt called Louisa who let you know shed read Modern Languages at Cambridge even as she cadged her first fag. Moran was at the time their whiff of the street (well Avenue) - an unfunny Primark edition of the divine Miss Julie B with her tongue up their arses as she danced her way up the greasy poll of polyfiller fortune.
Jelly Bean
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She is literally telling a man (original tweet) that he doesn't know anything about being a man and only her book answers any questions. I just can't with her any more.
She seems to think that she, as a woman, is providing men with a handbook for life as she suggests solutions
She seems to think that she, as a woman, is providing men with a handbook for life as she suggests solutions
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Flibbertigibbet
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"Bohemians" get away with this neglect and abuse, while working class families would be shamed for it. It's nothing new. The Bloomsbury set made indiscipline a point of principle. The Beatniks and Hippies abandoned their children while in a stupor on Hydra or in Marrakesh. Drew Barrymore was a drug addict before she was even in her teens. Then there was that dreadful case with Constance Marten last Winter (I think all vulnerable mothers should be searched for with such vigorous concern).
You know what would be really interesting, Moran? A book or documentary about this phenomenon, looking at what the parents were thinking, what the children experienced, and the sort of adults and parents this made them become. There's damage here that has to be acknowledged before it can be laughed off or worn as a badge of pride. Esther Freud has written about this. A.S. Byatt;s novel "The Children's Book" is absolutely brilliant (I lent a copy to a friend who was dragged up by New Age hippies. It really hit a chord.) But I think Moran is frozen in adolescence as a writer; she lacks the perception and analytical skills that maturity usually brings. In acting terms, she'd be the Harry Potter kids - cute when they made the films, rubbish as adult actors.
NomDeGuerre
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Just had the misfortune of seeing Caitlin interviewed on TV - she said that 'Fleabag finally disproved the myth that women aren't funny'
Another great leap backwards from the UK's Foremost Feminist, completely forgetting the seismic cultural contributions of the likes of Victoria Wood, French & Saunders, Jo Brand, Julie Walters, Caroline Aherne, Kathy Burke etc...
She's such a North London poseur.
Another great leap backwards from the UK's Foremost Feminist, completely forgetting the seismic cultural contributions of the likes of Victoria Wood, French & Saunders, Jo Brand, Julie Walters, Caroline Aherne, Kathy Burke etc...
She's such a North London poseur.
Jelly Bean
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She is embarrassing herself terribly now. Again.
This tweet. Sweeping generalisations about men. Isn't that what her groundbreaking book was meant to be dismantling?
And also there we have it. What a fucking snob. The 'right' kind of people like her book. It was never intended for the great unwashed.
Copacapybara
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It also seems so tired. Everything she says has been already said, and her idea of men is based on an outdated 90s stereotype which was never accurate or complete to begin with. She’s stupid, but also arrogant with it so totally incapable of serious analysis or self-reflection.
She’s also a massive snob, which sits weirdly with her supposed working class credentials. Only valuing professor feedback makes her whole argument fall apart. You’re not supporting or understanding working class men if you sneer at them and say their take on their own experience is invalid.
Even while she uses this fake caricature of working class stuff to buy favour with the privileged. It’s like Marie Antoinette and her pretend farm
On an actual council estate you wouldn’t go down well with that sort of arrogance. Most working class culture values at least some level of common sense. It’s as if she is mocking it by acting out the most lazy stereotype of it, but secretly thinks she’s superior….the predictable, boring rudeness of the privileged thinking they’re edgy.
She’s also a massive snob, which sits weirdly with her supposed working class credentials. Only valuing professor feedback makes her whole argument fall apart. You’re not supporting or understanding working class men if you sneer at them and say their take on their own experience is invalid.
Even while she uses this fake caricature of working class stuff to buy favour with the privileged. It’s like Marie Antoinette and her pretend farm
On an actual council estate you wouldn’t go down well with that sort of arrogance. Most working class culture values at least some level of common sense. It’s as if she is mocking it by acting out the most lazy stereotype of it, but secretly thinks she’s superior….the predictable, boring rudeness of the privileged thinking they’re edgy.
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Veronicaaa
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AdoraDelano
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Here's the tweet - she has yet to reply or tweet anything.
Vanelope
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She is a very self centred person - all of her columns and books are about how she experiences something or how if affects her. It makes all her writing the same. She wrote about eating disorders as a mother of someone suffering (had never done so before and hasn’t really since as hopefully her daughter is better now), she writes about music as someone who wrote for NME and has never moved forward, she writes about women only as she experiences life, now everything is menopause. Same for men. I know ‘lived experience’ is fashionable but actual talented writers can look at many different points of view. She is either incapable or lazy. She has coasted at the times for years, and is probably vastly overpaid.
Jelly Bean
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She reminds me of Miriam Margoyles these days. She's always 'shocking' and banging on about masturbating and shagging. They both make me feel a bit queasy tbh.
HotesTilaire
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Funny enough, it’s based on her upbringing where she lived on a council estate and didn’t go to school. I don’t know if you’re read her other fiction book, about a girl who lives on a council estate and doesn’t go to school and becomes a music journalist!She had a book out in the 90s when she was 16.
Absolute drivel. A well-known journalist at the time told me that they gave it to their 13 year old child as an inspiration. She told her, ‘If this dross can be published, anything can!’
She also wrote the sitcom Raised by Wolves, about a family on a council estate. The main character is a teenage girl who doesn’t go to school. Then there’s the film with Beany Felstead playing the lead, about a quirky teenage girl who doesn’t go to school, who lives on a council estate with her family…
Shimmering
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I can honestly say I've never discussed my vagina with friends or family.
I don't feel like I've missed out at all.
I don't feel like I've missed out at all.