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Oblivionbaby said:

How to be a woman has been made into a movie with beanie feldstein

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I think it’s actually her novel ‘How to build a Girl’ that’s been made into a film. Not sure how you got them mixed up because one is an autobiographical account of her growing up in a large family in a council house then becoming a teenage music journalist sensation and the other is fiction about a fictional girl who grew up in a large family in a council house who becomes a teenage music journalist sensation. Neither of which is to be confused with her sitcom about a teenager in a large family growing up in a council house.

Yes she wrote an article for The Times yesterday called 'Lockdown is easy!' but then someone tweeted something like '@The Times are you sure you want to run with this story after Caitlin Moran was loudly breaking lock down in my neighbour's garden all yesterday afternoon'.
Silence from her ever since, which is a novelty in itself .

Good start, but NEEDS MORE CAPSLOCK otherwise HOW will anyone KNOW when I’m being AMUSING AND WACKY! xxxx So:

- I’m WORKING CLASS
- I grew up in WOLVERHAMPTON (ps don’t ever mention Brighton, that might make us sound less than AUTHENTICALLY WORKING CLASS)
- we had NO MONEY growing up but were such naturally gifted kids, we just endlessly entertained ourselves every day [subtext: we were JUST LIKE THE BRONTES but with telly and a lot more refined sugar in our diets HAHA!!]
- Libraries are THE ONLY THING poor people really NEED to lead contented rich successful lives LIKE ME!
- Women who remove any hair from their bodies are BRAINWASHED TRAITORS TO FEMINISM (what do you mean, ‘what about Islam and fitra’? Does that affect WHITE RICH NORTH LONDON WOMEN like ME? BLOCKING YOU NOW.
- [blocking]
- [blocking]
- quick, tweet something about an ADORABLE DOGGO those thickoes will instantly forget the bit where I was A BIT SHIT
- really, though I live in a huge four-storey house in NORTH LONDON and have holidayed in LUXURY all around the world FOR YEARS subsidised by the Times, the only place I feel truly at home is in a caravan parked on the outskirts of Aberystwyth.

... etc

Just remembered she had the cheek to try and crowdfund a final episode of her sitcom after it was cancelled for the bargain price of £350,000...and failed miserably. So I’m guessing we’ll never know what happened to the main character in Raised by Wolves but I’m gonna take a stab in the dark and guess that she became a music journalist. Random, I know.

I don’t want to dox myself but i was briefly in her orbit through dating one of her friends, went to dinner parties at hers etc. She was a great host tbf but the picture you are building is accurate and we’ve all met people like her irl, who think they are the most fascinating person in the room and their default is to broadcast at people rather than converse, if that makes sense. Not my cup of tea.

Jelly Bean said:

Pathetic isn't it?
Plus he didn't tweet about it at the time, but only when he saw her 'lockdown is easy!' article. So he was reporting her hypocrisy, not the action itself.
She is on a crazy wage at The Times isn't she? I could be very wrong but isn't it about half a million p.a? Again I could be *very wrong.

*Can't be arsed to check.

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I always found it strange that someone who is so vehemently left wing and pro benefits (nothing wrong with that btw) writes for a paper like The Times. Funny how those socialist principles fly out the window when there’s money involved.

emeraldopal said:

I think you're all quite right that the debate has become so toxic and incendiary that its very difficult to have a respectful productive conversation, and as a public figure (especially one with a foot in both camps so to speak) it's understandable tht she is choosing to stay out of the fray, and also understandable that both 'sides' are disappointed in her for that. Incidentally, I remember her being supportive of transwomanhood n HTBAW, but as I say, we all know that that was a less complicated time with regards to trans rights.

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Speaking for myself, the topic is very pertinent indeed to Caitlin 'the people's feminist' Moran. I am sick to death of being dehumanised and being referred to in NHS literature as a 'bleeder' a 'birth haver' a 'person with a cervix'. Nobody is being anti trans by questioning the lunacy of any male being able to wake up and 'identify' as a woman and able to access spaces where women and young girls are vulnerable. There was indeed a time 'that was a lot less complicated with regards to trans rights', it was a time when gender ideology wasn't insidiously capturing the very basics of human biology. It took women hundreds of years to get the vote and now our rights are being trampled on again. As a so called feminist writer I would expect Moran to at least express an opinion on the matter. But she won't; she's far too cowardly and too much of a people pleaser.

Fruitshop said:

I’m convinced she is secretly a Tory and all her phwoar, I fancy him is to throw her readers off the scent

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She lives in a massive house in Crouch End, sends her kids to private schools and works for the Murdoch press. I can safely say she's a Tory whether or not she thinks she is.

There is a ghastly article in The Guardian today by her.
How does she get any credence - I don't get it?
One thing, amongst many things, that is so annoying is her assertion that her opinion is fact. She describes women in a totally alien way to most women I know. Apparently we're always discussing our vaginas on the bus, shouting 'Yasss Queeeen' in toilets and on occasion removing our friend's tampons. And the belief all women have such a large group of 'mates' who all behave like this.
No thought that it might just be her. Her assumption is that her very small area of experience is universal.
Feminism is now sorted, by her obviously, and the men need her attention.
Does she ever look at the experience of women in some other countries and how feminism is panning out for them? She sees Muswell Hill and Glastonbury and thinks it is like that everywhere.

I think of Caitlin Moran as my gateway drug to feminism, like BodyPump is to powerlifting. The minute you read any actual feminist theory you realise what a daft cow she actually is.

The entire north London media set drive me insane: as someone mentioned above, they've experienced unfathomable privilege for far longer than they lived in or adjacent to poverty. Nothing they have to say could relate to more than about 4% of the population.

Twitter made her and now it's breaking her.

All these people caught up in their Twitter bubbles (half the threads on here) have developed madly inflated egos and delusions about their relevance and uniqueness.

Before Twitter, Caitlin was posting anonymous gossip on PopBitch and no-one I was aware of ever mentioned her (well paid) Times columns, she was far away from the zeitgeist.

Twitter made her properly famous and along came the books and the adoration. She has no idea how out of touch she is, and always has been, because she has been happily ensconced in her echo chamber for so long. Making all that money and getting all that validation.

She's never been aware of her privilege, let alone checked it. Not working class, she was brought up boho-poor. Not an outsider, she has been a media insider since her teens (and has taken the Murdoch buck for over two decades).

Meh. I used to quite like her writing and for a while it probably influenced me a bit. Emphasising when I was EXCITED about something (cringe). To be fair, she was the friendliest of the mean girls Twitter gang, but that's not saying much.

I had to unfollow/mute her (can't remember) when she'd watched The Beatles Get Back kept going on and on and on about Paul being a sex god and wanting to have sex with him and teehee here I am talking about SEX and sexy times, aren't I wonderful and wacky.

Sorry for the essay, I've been lurking around here, glad that she's being called out for her bullshit.

I will never forget or forgive CM for her comments about a woman who walked down her street wearing high heels was basically asking for rape... Link here Also when she interviewed Lena Durham about Girls and someone questioned her on Girls lack of BAME women said "I literally couldn't give a shit about it" Link here
CM is always about feminism for people that are like and look like her. She is a proper arsehole!

Oh wow, she's really losing it on Twitter, haven't seen her lash out like that before. It's Sali Hughes-esque! Another example of Twtter ruining someone by pandering to their narcissism and sheltering them from the real world. I liked Caitlin when she was being funny about rockstars or Downton Abbey or the minutae of family life or whatever. The foray into Serious Topics was a mistake. I'm not being patronising; she has a good brain, she just hasn't disciplined it with any kind of education, formal or otherwise. Education isn't about just reading lots of books, it's learning how to think critically, how to defend your arguments and to question yourself constantly. It's about making a fool of yourself sometimes and realising your own ignorance. And if you're making big pronouncements about big things, you'd better be prepared to take flak, it happens to everyone. Some people right now (as she's well aware) are facing much worse for speaking up for what they believe in. So I don't feel that much sympathy. Twitter has a lot to answer for, though.

Lest we forget the appalling choice of words, describing how a boy would react if a bra was flung at him: He will run, screaming, away from you – like that Vietnamese kid covered in napalm.

I'm ashamed I spent money on that book all those years ago.

As we're slowly heading towards page 50

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Caitlin Moran #2: how to build a nepo baby

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Haha this is all very familiar. It's like the Zelensky article all over again where Caitlin couldn't understand why people didn't like it and asked if they had read it

I would like to a) assure any trans women who may be reading this that not all cis women think you are a threat to womens' rights. You have the solidarity of myself and many others and b) suggest that this line of discussion is taken the gender thread where those of us who don't wish to read transphobia can avoid it.

FrannyGallops said:

Sadly, I agree with you here. It’s ten times worse when a woman speaks out against this ideology than it is for a man, and even expressing an opinion as sensible as Murphy did can possibly be career ending.

However, I think my problem is that Caitlin Moran claims to be a feminist writer and thinks she’s up there with the likes of Germaine Greer yet we haven’t heard a peep out of her on this, one way or the other. It’s total cowardice on her part and I don’t think I can take her seriously in any way until she gives her opinion on one of the greatest threats facing women’s rights today or at least mentions it some form.

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Totally. You can't have it both ways. Actual feminists were not liked. The suffragettes were beaten, kicked, sexually assaulted and force fed in prison. The second-wavers of the 60s and 70s were vilified as mad, man-haters, witches, in need of a good shag or a smack. I'm Caitlin's age and in my lifetime in Ireland, women were barred from working in the civil service after marriage, denied contraception, divorce and abortion among many other indignities. Women's rights were a generation behind the rest of Europe. While Britain had legal abortion on demand before Caitlin was even born, I was being jostled on the street in the 1990s by pro-lifers and called a fkng baby killer for campaigning for the right to access abortion information legally (abortion itself was too far on the horizon).

So I have no patience with her. I won't go into it here but it's clear that there's a massive existential threat to women and their rights going on, and what does she do? She writes a book called "What about men?"

Oh and another petty gripe of mine. Her first "feminist" book was blurbed as "Germaine Greer on a barstool" which makes it sound like Germaine Greer was never actually on a barstool. I'd like to see Caitlin take on Norman Mailer in a town hall debate!

The Crouch End black hole is the most hysterical, self serving, pauvre moi, Crouch End thing I’ve ever heard see also “it just made sense to get a Range, you know, with the kids, and sometimes we have to go to Winchmore Hill,” and “I’d do my shopping elsewhere but Waitrose is on the way to Alexis’ ballet”

As a person who entered but did not win that Times competition she won her career from, I am mildly bitter but also glad I didn't win if this is what it does to you.