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Britney's instagram has always been a little...kooky. But then again Britney has always had a kooky personality that didnt always come through in interviews. Considering she cant go out and about without permission, I'm not surprised she makes these odd little skits and fashion shows in her house.

I'm not denying she's unwell, but I listen to a couple of podcasts (Britneysgram and eatpraybritney) who go through this stuff and the legal side in detail (they're not crazed stans).

It's quite obvious that she wants to get out of her conservatorship - they're usually for people in comas or with dementia. Her team say that she needs to be in it, which means they control who she sees, and what she does, including taking her meds. She's not allowed to drive without permission (or on her own) and they can take away her phone. So why has she been on multiple tours, a Vegas residency, had multiple albums and release branded products in that time? If she can't even be trusted with a phone?

Either she's capable of looking after herself and they've trapped her in the conservatorship (she cant appoint her own lawyer). Or she really is that mentally unwell, in which case, why are they making her be in the public eye? Both of those scenarios point to wrong-doings in her team.
 
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wthamidoinghere

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Some people on this thread either didn't witness Britneys behaviour 18 years ago or they have rose coloured glasses superglued to their face. People are so desperate to believe she is an innocent angel who tried to make her marriage work against all the odds and it must be Sam at fault. It must be Sam who orchestrated this entire relationship and then subsequently ruined it.

Britney is not, and has never been, the typical blueprint of a good person. She was a great performer. She was also rude, inappropriate, a cheater, an absent parent (pre cs when she was out all night partying and taking drugs instead of looking after her small children) and an all round hot mess. Do you know how hard it is to maintain a healthy relationship with someone who won't take accountability for their traumas or their own mental health? It's fucking exhausting.

To add to this: I'm speaking as someone who has been cheated on due to the fact that I was completely insufferable. Diagnosed BPD, refusing to take my meds, refusing therapy, refusing to listen to my family, refusing to listen to my husband and instead getting high every day to mask the pain of what was going on inside. Do I blame my husband for seeking solace in somebody who gave him the time of day? No. Looking back, I truly don't. I was a horrible spouse.
 
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wthamidoinghere

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This comment from reddit 🤌🏻 :

Yes, it was very frustrating to read her justify all the wild things she did. Even more frustrating is people buying into her narrative.

For example, she talks about how she almost drove her car over a cliff while doing a 360 turn so she could “feel alive,” yet claims she doesn't know why she was restricted from driving.

She dismisses the infamous 24-hour Vegas marriage as just two friends “having fun,” chiding her management and parents for pushing her to get an annulment. She somehow twists this wise decision that saved her from losing millions to the loser she married without a prenup in place into an example of how her team was abusive and controlling.

She continually minimizes her addiction to over-the-counter energy supplements and acts like her daddy forbidding her from taking them was a great injustice. Britney has bipolar disorder, and stimulants will cause her to ramp up and catapult toward mania. This is also why she was banned from coffee, energy drinks, excessive sugar consumption etc (which she often rants about on her IG).

She strips all agency from herself and paints Justin as the big bad who forced her to have an abortion.

She lies so many times, forgetting pap websites like TMZ and X-17 Online basically live-streamed her year-long manic episode in 2007, capturing all of her out-of-control behavior. This includes all the times she entertained the paps, went out of her way to hang out with them, etc.

Also, she inserted so many needless and easily disproven lies, which shows how delusional she is (her breasts aren't fake, her natural hair color is black, she only made out with Wade when she cheated, she only smoked weed once when she was 17). Like ma'am, we’ve all seen you and Kevin high as hell in Amsterdam on “Chaotic,” we’ve seen your childhood photos with brown hair etc.

I was also disturbed by how she was gunning for her sister, literally characterizing her as a 12-year-old “witch.” She talks openly about how she resented that Jamie Lynn wasn't abused like she was. Like whatttt?!

Most disturbing was her trying to repaint the events of the night where she locked herself in the bathroom with one of her sons as an innocent event that wasn't cause for alarm. A manic stimulant addict who was openly suicidal was locking herself in a bathroom with her child and refusing to release him to Kevin for his court-ordered visitation. She was testing positive for drug and alcohol abuse at that point, which is why she had limited custody. Yet she somehow turned herself into the victim. That's absolutely wild!

Re: Britney’s account of being forced into rehab by her father and “imprisoned” for weeks, I'm hoping to provide some insight. Everything she described—from the weekly blood draws (to monitor her levels because she was on lithium), to being supervised 24/7 and forced to sit through classes all day (therapy like CBT and DBT), and restricted from leaving—is exactly what happens when someone is admitted into a psychiatric facility due to a suicide attempt. This treatment is called one-to-one, which means you must be supervised by someone all day every day. Yes, that includes while bathing and changing. I know this because I admitted myself to a psych ward years ago to treat my PTSD. Though I didn't experience one-to-one myself since I self-admitted and wasn’t a suicide risk, many of the people I became friendly with in the unit did. This tells me that this rehab stay was a misguided attempt at saving her life and helping her stabilize. In fact, it sounds like they created this experience so she didn’t have to go to a psych ward, which is understandably way more traumatizing. I have no doubt her father is a narcissistic abusive alcoholic who relished in the opportunity to assert dominance over Britney and punish her for achieving a level of success of which he couldn't dream. But I also believe the conservatorship started as an earnest attempt to save her life. Her criticisms of her “rehab” experience should be seen as an indictment of how the psychiatric industrial complex mistreats and mismanages patients, not of her idiotic hillbilly family.

It may seem like I'm a Britney hater, but I’ve been a huge fan since I was a kid. I've always rooted for her, and part of that is admitting that she's a very mentally ill woman who needs help. Part of that help is being held accountable so she can make positive changes in her life. It's sad to see her fans, the media and all these talking heads seemingly take her story at face value. It only feeds her delusions and prevents her from actually healing.

One positive of this book was that it provided insight into the mind of an addict/people with personality disorders. I never fully grasped how delusional they are, and how they could continually justify their destructive behavior. This made me realize that they truly believe their own lies and sense of victimhood. Though delusional, they truly do suffer beyond belief, even if it's at their own hands. I gained a lot more compassion for them.

Britney is undeniably a victim of abuse. But as is often the case, she too is a perpetrator of it (as we see with her sons). The many injustices she faced as a child and adult are absolutely not her fault. But they are her problem and responsibility to heal from. Holding someone accountable is not victim-blaming.

I hope Britney finds peace and healing, but if this book is any indication of her trajectory, that won't be anytime soon.
 
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Perspicacia Tick

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everything that is out there about Britney’s past I talking well before the cship there’s rumoured abuse and then pretty much her whole career. It’s not just physical abuse. This woman’s 1000000000% been abused in soooo many ways there’s no doubt about it.
Even if that is true (and I'm sure some of it is) at what point do you think Britney has to take some responsibility for her behaviour now? Do you give her sister a pass because she was raised by the same parents as Britney and was rumoured to have been abused while working for Nickelodeon? Do you give her father a pass because his dad was an abusive alcoholic and his mother killed herself after his little brother died? If not, why not? What makes Britney so unique that having a shitty childhood excuses anything she does in adulthood?

There are people the world over who've been subjected to horrific chilhoods, most of them don't have the resources and money to hand that Britney does, and when they act like assholes they're held to account. Why shouldn't she be?
 
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terfette

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I’m not sure why he’s getting so much flack for asking for money in the divorce.

if this were a 29 year old woman in her prime, who had spent the last 7 years of her life (at an age which is the peak of most models careers) supporting an older, mentally ill man there wouldn’t be the judgement. Particularly if she’d had her eyes blackened and been seen with bite marks on her body.
 
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wthamidoinghere

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They’re two huge singers/producers Maluma & J Balvin
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I remember seeing a live Instagram her youngest did and honestly those kids are just their dad. They just see her as a cash cow. It was genuinely heartbreaking he said ‘mam said she might retire and I said mam no you gotta keep making music and earn that paper’
From reading her caption (&If you watch the video it’s a jokey video of what parents want to do when their kids have their own house where you’d go in and treat it how your kids treat your house, clothes and crap thrown everywhere etc)
She’s just saying if/when her kids get their place she’d love to just go in & make a mess.
she’s obviously very hurt by how they’ve treated her when she sacrificed her own freedom to see them. They are ALL victims from the conservatorship. The boys and her need help to reconcile.
Those kids are not responsible for the trauma she caused them. Sick of hearing excuses. Pre conservatorship, she was a shit mother. Post conservatorship, she is a shit mother. In the conservatorship she had regular contact and a seemingly good relationship with them. As good as it could be anyway.

Post cship, she has continued to behave in a manner that they feel unsettled and uncomfortable with and she has lumped ALL the blame on them and carried on business as usual with both middle fingers in their direction. Kids. Her children that SHE neglected as little ones PRE conservatorship.

I get what you're trying to say but I'm sorry, I completely disagree.
 
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ToxicPony

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Somewhere in this thread people seem to have lost any reason or nuance.

It's entirely possible that Britney is mental now and was great then.

Christina Aguilera is fine and has many good qualities. Whitney Houston she is not.

Taylor Swift has both enormous talent and various limitations.

I mean Michael Jackson had every talent in the world and might have also been a paedophile.

Shades of grey. Stan wars are dull.
 
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D_Wills

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For UK members of a certain age...I just REALLY want to see what POD would do to her snog marry avoid 😂
 
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jackolantern

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I honestly don't care if she is longing for a baby. That might sound harsh but she is in no position to raise a child without first getting the mental health support she so desperately needs. I absolutely do not agree with the conservatorship but at the same time, acting like this is just all an act of rebellion is foolish. It's clear as day she is quite significantly ill and a child shouldn't be brought into that just because she wants one. Every single thing she does is a huge cry for help whether she or her fans realise it or not. Her posts are extremely erratic and not the behaviour of someone who is in a good place mentally.

All the Britney stans shouting yassss queen to every single thing she does aren't helping in all honesty. It's just reinforcing to her that her behaviour is stable. You can love Britney and still acknowledge she needs serious help. That's nothing to be ashamed of, nor is it a surprise considering everything she has been through. It's funny because people think you are attacking mental health problems in highlighting that she is ill. When actually, burying your head under the sand and acting like this is 'normal' does more to make mental health seem like something to be swept under the rug. Nearly everyone would be ill having been through what Britney has, so why do we need to keep pretending this is just her expressing her sexuality and fucking her family off?
 
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thegirlscout

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From what I’ve seen, people thought that the end of her conservatorship would be this fairytale ending where she goes off and lives happily ever after with her boyfriend and comes back on top with her music, her life, well everything.
And that would be so wonderful if that could happen but Britney has been mentally unwell for so long and removing the conservatorship won’t make her 100% better. I do believe she was abused under that practice and glad she’s not under it anymore but she needs a lot of help and a lot of support. She’s very vulnerable but her super fans seem blinded by this and just see her as embracing her sexuality and sticking 2 fingers up to her family.
 
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More ugliness incoming

Sources with direct knowledge tell us ... Sam frequently complained about Britney getting physical with him during their 7 years together. We're told there have been numerous fights where security has had to step in, but in one instance there was no security in sight.

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Our sources say there was one occasion where Sam says he was sleeping in their bed when Britney flew off the handle and began punching him. We're told Sam did not strike back, but was stunned as his wife pummeled him.

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We're told that alleged incident went down early this year, right around the time Sam was photographed with a black eye and bite marks on his forearm.

Paparazzi noticed the bruising and tried to ask Sam about it, but he tried to play it off ... asking photogs not to shoot him.

Our sources say Sam was particularly concerned because Britney had a fascination with knives. We're told there were knives all over the house, including in their bedroom. Britney, as one source put it, "was paranoid someone was going to get her, and she needed the knives as protection." The sources add Britney tended to "fly off the handle" at the smallest slight, and that terrified Sam.
I’ll be honest I’m inclined to believe she’s hit him more than she’s cheated on him.
 
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This is so offensive. If she can dress and feed herself she can consent to sex. My partner has paranoid schizophrenia, so he can't consent to sex? I'm raping him am I? She has a mental illness fgs, she isn't at the sectioning level so she is perfectly able to have and consent to sex. Having children is a different matter. But she is a human being with the same rights as anyone else around what she chooses to do with her body.
 
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jackolantern

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Kevin has been with Victoria since 08 and married since 13. That's at least a decade of actually being present in those boys lives and being some sort (can't state to the extent) of mother figure for them that Britney never was. Why the fuck should she not benefit from the finances. If I was raising the kids of a multimillionaire while she twatted around calling everyone names, doing drugs and spreading her arse cheeks, best believe I'd be dining on her dollar.
 
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wthamidoinghere

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he is so slimy...
Why? She's writing a tell all book but he can't do a tell all interview? Not trying to be a bitch but what's the difference? 🤷🏻‍♀️
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I can't get over what a horrible person Britney is. So terribly ugly inside.

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What I'm hearing is "I never knew my kids well enough to know what they really wanted and they couldn't bare to be in my presence for longer than short periods of time". Any other parent would be asked to question why that is? Why does Britney get a pass?
 
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Even if that is true (and I'm sure some of it is) at what point do you think Britney has to take some responsibility for her behaviour now? Do you give her sister a pass because she was raised by the same parents as Britney and was rumoured to have been abused while working for Nickelodeon? Do you give her father a pass because his dad was an abusive alcoholic and his mother killed herself after his little brother died? If not, why not? What makes Britney so unique that having a shitty childhood excuses anything she does in adulthood?

There are people the world over who've been subjected to horrific chilhoods, most of them don't have the resources and money to hand that Britney does, and when they act like assholes they're held to account. Why shouldn't she be?
This in spades.

Look I had an abusive childhood myself. I had an abusive adulthood as well. I’ve only started to heal the last few years and it’s a fucking struggle. But you know what I didn’t do? Act like a c*** to other people.

I’m sorry, but while Sam may be a grifter, I pretty much believe everything he is saying. We are talking about a woman who still posts naked shit online even though her sons are upset by it. There have been other accounts of her being naked in front of staff prior to his accusation.

She likely is unwell and in the grip of an addiction but she could have taken control of her life years ago and NOT been a shit mother.

She has the money for the best therapists and treatment in the world. She could retire and spend all her days in wellness retreats or buy a farm off the grid and enjoy being around animals with her kids. She hasn’t done any of that. Instead she chooses to whirl around like a banshee half naked over and over and not care about what she’s doing to her kids.
Even if that is true (and I'm sure some of it is) at what point do you think Britney has to take some responsibility for her behaviour now? Do you give her sister a pass because she was raised by the same parents as Britney and was rumoured to have been abused while working for Nickelodeon? Do you give her father a pass because his dad was an abusive alcoholic and his mother killed herself after his little brother died? If not, why not? What makes Britney so unique that having a shitty childhood excuses anything she does in adulthood?

There are people the world over who've been subjected to horrific chilhoods, most of them don't have the resources and money to hand that Britney does, and when they act like assholes they're held to account. Why shouldn't she be?
This in spades.

look, I had an abusive childhood. I had an abusive adulthood as well. It’s been a fucking nightmare struggle. Even with all that, I don’t act like a c*** to other people. My kids are my priority.

Sam may be a grifter but I believe what he says. We know Britney’s behaviour is wild and she has been naked in front of staff before.

She could have retired and spent the rest of her life with the best therapists and in wellness retreats. She could have gone off grid and bought a farm and spent time there with her boys.

But no. Instead she doesn’t care for their feelings and spends her life half naked whirling around like a banshee for insta likes.

I’ve run out of sympathy.
 
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ihatepickingusernames

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Does anyone else think if Britney wasn’t rich and famous she’d be someone you’d see at the shops or on the street looking like they haven’t showered for weeks, talking to themselves, wearing clothes that look like they came out of a rubbish bin? I’m not even being mean, the latest dance video just made me think of people like that. I know a lot of people say fame ruined her, but I wonder if it actually stopped her being one of those people.
 
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SqualorVictoria

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I do think a lot of people were 'Free Britney' because let's face it, 'pop star controlled and taken advantage of by money grabbers' is a far easier narrative to swallow than 'pop star is not capable of looking after herself and is a liability to herself and others'. Now it's becoming painfully obvious which version was closer to the truth
 
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wthamidoinghere

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I seen it coming, I wonder did his marriage contract end as I do still believe he was paid to be with her I do not believe it was the real deal and it will all come out soon enough, I reckon the father is behind this when he had all her money, Sam used her to get famous he knew how big she was and knew it would get him more bigger jobs as an actor he knew what he was doing, is he not from Iran? I reckon he already has a wife back home, hope Britney gets help she deserves a happy ending 🙏
Hate to come across as a Sam apologist today, because clearly it's looking like it, but what has his nationality got to do with it? Not everyone from the middle east has multiple wives...

He also moved from Iran at the age of 13. Just think comments like this are a bit daft. It takes a quick Google to debunk your own theories.
 
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D_Wills

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Brit in her latest ig post: Stop talking about things that happened 20 years ago!! I'm over it!!! The media keep dragging things up from 20 years ago and I hate it!!

Also Brit: Buy my book all about things that happened 20 years ago.
 
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