Ellie Grey
Very active in the truther / conspiracy theorist community via social media and at marches etc.
She puports to have specialist / inside knowledge of most controversial subjects, in particular, anything that’s in the news at that time and has a long list of qualifications that she pretends she has gained, to back up her theories. However, pretty much all she says, when down to her pretending she’s got curly hair when she’s had a perm, is just bollocks.
She’s (un)affectionately known to us as Liey Grey. Read on and you’ll find out why.
She routinely gives stupid and dangerous advice, which has been proven time and time again that she does not follow for herself / her family. She is also constantly unwell, for many different reasons - telling her followers that she has a long list of ever changing medical conditions.
Background
Ellie’s father is a retired policeman and runs a Private Investigation company, her mother is a registered Mental Health Nurse, her brother is in the Army and her sister is a Doctor. Despite all of her immediate family having jobs in the public sector, Ellie is firmly anti establishment and has never managed to hold a job of her own for any considerable length of time.
She credits her father with teaching her everything she knows about conspiracy theories and he is the one who told her not to vaccinate her own children.
Vaccinations
Ellies parents are both conspiracy theorists and anti-vaxxers and as such she wasn’t vaccinated as a child. Her existence is contrary to the belief of many anti-vaxxers that not having vaccinations will result in a healthier child. Ellie claims to have multiple medical conditions (including being born with a congenital heart defect) and has had a list of operations longer than your arm, some of which she has claimed defy medical science.
Likewise, she says that her children aren’t vaccinated and the youngest allegedly suffers with complex health conditions. (Note: however her childrens fathers new partner has said the elder two are vaccinated).
Despite being raised by Anti-vaxxers, Ellie cannot see her own bias when it comes to vaccines and has stated multiple times that she would never vaccinate her children regardless of any trials, studies, or reports. This is ironic as she states her biggest gripe is people not accepting the science (against vaccines) when she shows them (often biased) studies.
She has been vocal within Anti-Vaxx circles for at least the last five years, when she started a petition to have vaccine inserts given to patients (which in itself isn’t a bad idea).
Medical Conditions
It’s not for us to say whether she is or is not sick. But, creating this wiki did remind us of just how unwell Ellie has claimed to be over the last 2 or 3 years.
She’s claimed that she’s suffered with:
- A Congenital heart defect leading to a pacemaker being fitted
- Sepsis and septic shock (twice)
- Double Pneumonia
- Endocarditis
- Circulation Problems
- Epilepsy
- Depression
- Acute Anxiety
- Cardiac Arrests
- Respiratory Arrests
- Gallbladder removal
- Liver problems
- Ovarian cysts
- Body Dysmorphia
- Rhinoplasty
- Hip Pain
- Migraines so bad she had to have injections
- Hyperemesis Gravidarum during
Pregnancy (so bad that she told people that getting pregnant again would kill her as her organs shut down. Yet she had Delilah a couple of years later)
- Aspergers
- A bleed on the brain (July 2022)
Received an 'unauthorised' lumbar puncture (July 2022)
The most notable claim is her
Hodgkin’s Lymphoma/ Cancer. She first claimed she had this in 2018 (which she says that she cured by getting pregnant). It later came back in late 2021/2022 (seems she didn't cure it in 2018?) and she recently claimed it had been ‘reduced it from stage 4 to stage 3’. This is one of the most concerning claims as there have been numerous rumours (and hints from her own extended family) that this is all a lie.
Education
Ellie didn’t fit in with traditional schooling, in fact she admits that she asked difficult questions and ‘knew more than the teachers’. In addition to clashing with the faculty Ellie was also bullied which led to her ultimately being homeschooled.
After school Ellie married and had children young, after which she decided (in keeping with her vaccination views), that she would train to become a ‘Vaccine Damages Lawyer’ and represent those who have been damaged by vaccines.
Ellie also claims to have had a set path (and timeline) to complete two degrees (BSc in Biomedical Science, LLB Bachelor of Laws), followed by a LLM focusing on Vaccinations and Medical Ethics.
Degrees
Ellie claimed to have completed both degrees by distance learning, concurrently, whilst having three children by the age of 25, having a very difficult third pregnancy, having (then curing) Hodgkin’s Lymphoma, and having three foreign holidays a year.
One post claimed she was acing every
test without even trying, and she completely cuffed her final Law Exam without studying for it.
Another post (in which she also tagged her mother) claimed she had been head hunted by a top London law firm due to the advice she was giving on Facebook.
She was also renowned on the Arnica Facebook page as a source of legal information regarding vaccine damage and was often referred to as a Vaccine Lawyer/Solicitor. At one paid event advertised on Arnica (where she was talking about parenting) she was tagged and described as a vaccine lawyer.
She has posted several times that she has enrolled on ‘Masters in law’ courses. However, the accompany pictures were always simply screenshots of an incomplete application form.
She intermittently referred to either degree by name as validation to support her arguments or when putting down anyone who challenged her. She also included them in a post looking for a job and in her IG Bio.
After Tattlers challenged all of claims she removed the lines from her IG Bio.
No evidence of any degrees or professionals qualifications whatsoever has ever been produced - however, she does proudly, repeatedly upload her ‘qualifications’ that she gained in doing an online health & beauty course.
She has a website called ‘power to the people’ or PTTP - where she claims she’s working with a group of ‘other lawyers’ to fight against - well, everything.
It contains nonsense letters that she puports will give people the power to refuse vaccines, homeschool their kids and open their businesses through lockdown using the Magna Carta.
The information on the website is a mish mash of unreliable copy and paste jobs from other unreliable sources.
There are no other lawyers associated with the website or company.
She did register PTTP on companies house and for awhile charged subscription fees and sold merchandise. However, no accounts were ever registered on companies house and the company was struck off after once year.
The website is still active.
Lawyer/Solicitor and LLM
Funding
Things Ellie doesn’t believe in:
- Dinosaurs
- The Holocaust
- That Hitler was a bad person
- The moon landing
These were mentioned before one of her (voluntary) IG shut downs. She had quite a bit of negative attention after posting these and when the account was re-activated it was never mentioned again.
Fact Check
One of Ellies video rants was so outlandish it got picked up by Fact Check and they did a complete video on it.
She said that she was definitely going to sue them but never mentioned it again. Anyone who asks about it gets blocked.
https://fb.watch/dfvrgKZ2z9/
GLO
She pushed extremely hard for and took many donations on her PTTP website in order to submit a Group Litigation Order against the government for crimes against humanity (or something). She constantly posted the donations page and took a small fortune. Once called out on tattle - where we explained that she had no legal grounds or indeed any legal standing to bring a case like that (as she’s not a lawyer and doesn’t have rights of audience) we heard very little about it. If anyone asks her about it or to return their donation - she simply deletes the comment and blocks the person who asks.
**anyone see a theme here?**
Cancer Claims
Ellie claims that cancer can be cured with alternative medicine. She believes that tumours are poison “bags” collecting in your body, and that the disruption of said bags through biopsy’s causes the tumour bags to explode which then causes the poison contained in them to spread around your body and thus spreading your cancer.
Nudes
In Feb 21 Tattlers came across an ‘only fans’ type page for Ellie. A few years ago, had uploaded nude porn type photos of herself squirting breast milk in the shower and was taking payments for private photos and / or videos. This was easy to find as she had used her previous insta handle on the only fans type site.
The history is as follows;
Between Feb and Oct 2018: Her ICloud was hacked and not only were her explicit pictures sent back to herself, but her location was tracked in real time (see picture), in the comments she announced that she was never going to use an IPhone again.
August 2019: This was when the 'Milkgate' pictures were uploaded to sharesexy (by the file path name on the folder).
February 2021: This is when, after one Tattler searching for her previous IG usernames on the internet (Elsybels25), found the previously uploaded photos. Its worth noting that as her IG username was used, it was either her, or someone who knew her who originally uploaded the pictures, possibly not initially on sharesexy. She claimed all sorts of excuses from she had sent them to her ex-husband (raises more question), to she had been hacked by the government (4 days previous) and the files metadata changed to appear they had been on there longer (for what reason no one knows).
She now says that 2020 was thd worsf year ever fidget due these photos being outed. However there is no history in 2020 of her mentioning or alluding to pictures of herself being shared and or hacked.
Provoking Celebrities
Ms Grey posted a number of claims about mammograms, breast cancer, wired bras. A well known breast cancer surgeon (also a stage 4 BC patient herself) was alerted to the claims. The surgeon took to Twitter and Instagram to set the incorrect record straight. The goons were duly sent after her, with the standard vile messages and posts.
Other influencers / celebs have been harassed by Ellie’s followers - on a regular basis.
Ellie also regularly asks pretty much ‘anyone’ to debate her and go live. Plenty of Doctors, Nurses and Scientists have offered. They get blocked (of course) and she pretends no one would take her on because of her superior knowledge.
Doxing Tattlers/People
Ellie enlisted the help of her Dad, a private investigator, to try to find out who the tattlers were.
She got a few names correct and a few wildly wrong.
Guess you win some & you lose some hey Liey?
We should also add here that she told her followers she spend an afternoon with Hastings police (she didn’t). She had a crime reference number (she didn’t). The police were going to go arrest the tattlers (they didn’t) and she was going to sue us all (she didn’t)
She was also ‘going live’ with hundreds of pages of evidence about us (can you guess what happened….
).
She has doxed numerous people involved in tattle and numerous medical professionals, and whenever anyone challenges her publicly, she accuses them of bullying.
Suncream
Preaches that suncream causes cancer. Says sunbeds are good for you.
Said she has never put suncream on her kids. Tells others to do the same. Till tattlers uncovered a post of her saying she was buying suncream to take her kids to The Gambia.
Vaccine Debate
Ellie put out a public request for any medical professional to live debate her about vaccines. Lots responded taking up her offer and some offered to help set it up, but she
Deleted their comments and blocked them, at the same time, telling her followers nobody came forward.
Commune
Ellie made a video saying she was just about to sign the contract to buy a piece if land to start a commune.
She never mentioned it again.
Thermography
After having a private Thermogram, Ellie posted the pictures and then claimed they were bad as she hadn’t been looking after herself as well as she should have been, alluding that her Cancer was likely to return. After Tattlers identified that her pacemaker wasn’t visible, she removed the pictures and said that IG had taken them down as they went against the community standards. Oddly the company that conducts the thermograms has dozens of thermography pictures which haven’t been taken down.
After the issue with her pacemaker came up several times she posted a picture of an email she had sent to the Thermographer asking whether her pacemaker would be visible. She posted…
Smears
Ellie claims that smear tests are bad for you and in fact cause cancer because the swabs used are sterilised with ethylene oxide.
Mammograms
Ellie claims that mammograms are bad for you and cause cancer, and instead a thermogram should be done instead.
The Dog
Ellie posted pictures of a dog, claiming she owned him. Unfortunately the dogs life with Ellie did not last long, and was given away. Ellie claimed that the dog was still in her possession, instead of admitting that she probably could not handle a dog, she lied and said she still had him. To this day, the dogs true whereabouts is unknown.
August 2023 - Mentions her dog. In a 'LIVE' on instagram explaining how to avoid paying tax, not get caught by bailiffs, get out of paying utility bills: by using her dogs name or kids names - such as putting the company under their name, or bills in their names!
Birth Control
Ellie did a series of videos where she highlighted the dangers (including serious injury, cancer and death) of every type of birth control.
After the last video she waited several days (until some of her followers were practically begging to be told), and then uploaded her preferred method. This is colloquially known by the Tattlers as ‘Fanjo Soap’.
Fanjo Saop
Integrity
Speaker at Kate Sheramani
International Exposure
Del Bigtree
Incorrect Lockdown Claims
Ellie claimed to have insider information, and claimed that there wouldn’t be a second national lockdown as there would be riots and the government would lose control, lockdowns would be limited locally.
Obviously, there was a second national lockdown.
During the second lockdown Ellie stated that this would be extended indefinitely and that we would never come out of lockdown in one form or another.
Obviously, the nationwide lockdown finished quite a while ago.
Ellie is fond of saying that everything ‘they’ have predicted has come true so far…
Identity Theft
Posting a screenshot of one of her personal messages, Ellie had forgotten to log out of a fake account she had been using. After being identified by Tattlers that Ellie was, in fact using someone elses’s account instead of her own
It later transpired that this woman , who is very unwell, had had previous interaction with Ellie with the purchase of a buggy. Looking back at the history of the account Ellie had generated it straight after her interaction with the other woman’s photos and details two years prior to being caught out. Although the woman confronted Ellie online, Ellie
Deleted all the comments from her posts and refused to engage with the subject at all.
PTTP / Tax Evasion
Created by Ellie and a 'group of individuals'. This company - UK Power To The People LTD - Company Number 12935953
Ellie uses this webpage to have an Uncensored forum that is censored.
Set up a shop selling items - which we have seen some people wearing at protests. Did reference orders being sent. She has never submitted any accounts to HMRC.
Holds templates for how to avoid paying bills, not take vaccines, not wear a mask, tv license cancellation etc etc
A shop for Webinars that claim to tell people how to avoid paying council tax, utility bills, avoid vaccines etc etc A couple have been free but multiple have been £25/-30 per webinar per person. Again no accounts submitted to HMRC.
Hair Analysis
Set up on PTTP she is/was doing hair analysis to tests to see what 'vitamin and mineral imbalances' you have - for which luckily Ellie has just set up a supplement business - see Tribe Supplements spelt Tr;be below.
This 'service' costs people £50 (apparently on sale) and £65 for pets!!!!! Mental.
The main issue is people paid and sent in for this service only to receive... NOTHING back. They cannot contact anyone (because she has not set it up as a genuine business) and only uses social media to scam people through promoting herself and grifting schemes. She will only answer questions that make her money. Sadly they have been conned.
Anosia
Phone Scam
Blue Tick
Ellie got to around 95k followers on IG and it was clear that she would get a blue tick once she got to 100k. However, it was obvious from follower her follower numbers that they tended to go up in ‘blocks’ of 1000-2000 a time. This seemed odd as Ellie would vet her new followers with exceptional scrutiny, and also conducted regular purges where her numbers would slowly go down over a 24 hr period. This led us to suspect she may have bought ‘followers’ to increase her count.
iamelliegrey page: End of August to mid September 2022 - Her followers, having dropped from 55k for 54k during the period she claimed to be 'over and out' with social in the summer or 2022, her followers over a 3 week period jumped to 109k! A simple look at the followers showed they were bots and yet again she paid for her follower count.
Mid sept to End Sept still 109k followers, hmmmmm bizarre? No, she's paused the bots. End of Jan 2023 this page is now down to 102k.
The newer 'originalelliegrey' suddenly showed and somehow (bots!
) built to 125k followers over a very short period of time.
July 2023 - renamed 'iamelliegrey' - E GREY - August 2023 jumped again from 125k followers to 146k followers.
Cut and Paste
Telegram Fiasco
During a tumultuous episode in Ellie’s echo chamber Telegram Channel, she lost admin control whilst logged in under a different user name.
Ellie repeatedly used fake accounts on her Telegram to either support something she had said, ask a question which ‘Ellie’ could then answer, or direct the conversation a certain way. On one occasion where she was using a fake account she got locked out of her main admin account. To let everyone know that she had lost control, she changed the fake users username to her own. Unfortunately for her this had two issues, the first was that there was now two different Ellies on the Telegram, and the second is that it changed all the previous comments posted under that username as her own.
There were both Tattlers in her Telegram, and Telegrammers monitoring the Tattle thread. After some of the older comments under Ellies fake account were screenshotted and put on the Tattle thread, the Channel completely broke down. The result was pandemonium, her followers didn’t know whether to believe this ‘new’ Ellie or not. The choices for them to believe were, this ‘new’ Ellie was the real Ellie but by using a fake account it proved that she had added fake comments to support herself, or, that Ellie had been locked out and this was an impersonator, likely from the Tattle, that was trying to sabotage the Channel.
After a short while of accusations and arguing in the Channel, Ellie declared that IT’S NOT SAFE, EVERYONE SHOULD LEAVE!
Charity
Ellie kindly supported some African children, spouted about it getting followers and praise and was looking forward to visiting months later. However she quickly dropped them and after one donation and never mentioned it again.
Tr;be Supplements
And not this is not a mistaken spelling. This is how Ellie spells it. Launched around July 2022.
Her next grift - selling untested white label products. This is apparently holistic so perfectly acceptable! Basically it lines her pockets so that is all fair and good in this world. Unlike the thoroughly tested products of big Pharma. Dear Ellie - what are the double blind placebo tests like? Sure there is a long list of side effects you seems to happily miss letting people know about.
She mentioned this in her telegram chat as wanting to keep her name out of it/
Not yet found on HMRC so under someone else name or a fake name/business somehow, either way her way of again avoiding tax.
Her Tribe Supplements Insta _tr;be_ new handle again sep 2022, has, potentially temporarily, been the main stage for her usual mammogram/thermography/smear etc etc posts - some point changed to _tr.be_ (aug 2023)
New tribesupplements Insta page Jan 2023 - 25 followers and 1 post for the whole month. Very dodgy. Relates to latest post on 'iamelliegrey' talking about difficulties. Theories (and hopes) she is being chased by HRMC.
TR;BE - on TrustPilot.
All one star reviews flagged. Some removed, some stay. Clearly no clue how to run a business. Customer service non-existent. She relies on the white label products and 3rd party set up to run the business smoothly, therefore wrong orders/product issues she has no way to deal with. Of course everyone else's fault and Ellie takes zero responsibility.
Physical shop open November 2023 - no one knows who the company is under currently. She is avoiding paying tax still.
She had this Tr;be company only 6 months old, valued at 7 figures. (A story post from Nov 2023)
Pseudonyms
Ellie Grey / Ellie Ellie / Alice Brocker / Original Ellie Grey / Unity Holistic Health / Nature Ellie Holistic / Naturellie You / PTTP / Anosia / Cleo Blacksmith / Eloise Grey / Ellie Morphett / Elsybels25 / Officialelliegrey / iamelliegrey / Jasmine Rose
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