itsnotmereally
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I’m honestly not sure why race has been brought into it. It’s nothing to do with that. People don’t like her because she’s aggressive, she’s screaming and shouting throwing tantrums like a child. She’s constantly giving people daggers if they go near Tom. The looks are insane to anyone that is brave enough to speak to him. Anyone that does try to give her any bit of advice, she chews their head off. She’s possessive and controlling - that’s not just a little thing, it’s a form of abuse and she’s doing it only 7 days in. She was literally giving out about Tom walking in front of her. They’re all afraid to go near her because they don’t know who is going to get the wrath of Zara next. Luca did this very early on last year, similar behaviour, however, I wouldn’t have described him as aggressive but all the other mannerisms were there and he got hell for it. Luca always kept Gemma in a headlock. Zara has similar mannerisms that she clings to him and wraps herself around him trying to claim her “property”. But I honestly don’t even think it’s about Tom anymore. I think it’s about Olivia. It’s not that she wants the lad, it’s that she wants him because she knows Olivia wants him and she wants to get one up on her. Someone said they knew eachother through modelling and music videos - it’s a very competitive world in that industry. They’re probably fighting for same jobs, I’d say beef has been there a while
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the way no one sees the issue with him picking her for body?? what makes it worse is he picked the one girl she had an issue with…can anyone confidently say they’d have no problem with being picked by body over face/personality by the guy that supposedly likes them?? and to make it worse he picks the girl you have problems with, who wouldn’t have an issue with that? they’re making her out to be crazy but she’s right about this, and she’s probably just feeling insecure?
Liveatlauren
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It made me laugh the other day when one of them said “never have I ever got with somebody that was over 30” and I was sat there like 🫣🫠
It is definitely a race thing. Unfortunately people on here and most of social media won't admit it because half of them don't see why it would be. For a lot of people, they don't see how calling Zara aggressive but referring to women like Faye, Ekin, Maura, Olivia etc as fiery or fiesty is not a microagression. It's often very normal for the first word to come to their mind when a WOC is raises her voice just a tad bit to be aggressive. Remember Teddy referring to Kaz as being agro after her argument with Teddy? While never ever once using that same word with Faye even though she was screaming at everyone?
You don't have like Zara. She has definitely had some questionable moments. But there comes a fine line between that and then just going at her because everyone else is doing the same thing.
Do I think she's possessive of Tom? 100% but is Tom also sending hella mixed signals? Of cause he is. Everyone else is so quick to dismiss her feelings in there because once again, WOC should be seen as strong women. When she cries, she gets dragged and no one seems to comfort her. When Olivia or any other white woman cries, everyone rushes to their aid.
It's very uncomfortable to watch but unfortunately alot of people won't see anything wrong with what happens during that episode because it was happening to Zara and not anyone else.
Nah I feel like that was getting a bit uncomfortable with Zara there, does feel like they’re singling her out.
I don’t know how anyone is on Olivia’s side, she’s so smug and you can tell from a mile off she’s getting a real kick out of seeing Zara hurt or annoyed and seems to take any opportunity to goad or wind her up.
I don’t know how anyone is on Olivia’s side, she’s so smug and you can tell from a mile off she’s getting a real kick out of seeing Zara hurt or annoyed and seems to take any opportunity to goad or wind her up.
Not gonna lie, feel like Zara has kinda brought a lot of this on herself too tbh. She’s been kicking off and being possessive from the minute she walked into the villa. She’s known him all of like two minutes and she’s going on a rampage every single time anybody talks to him. If it was a lad doing that to a girl constantly we’d all be calling him out for being controlling saying it’s a complete red flag so early on. I feel like she has this sense of entitlement that she thinks she’s better than everyone else. She literally cried because he was talking to other people. And the other day when Aaron was chatting to her, it wasn’t about her and tom’s relationship progressing further. It was literally about if I leave Tom alone, olivia’s gonna be trying to talk to him so I need to make sure that I’m with him 24/7 so he cannot speak to anyone else. That’s ridic.
Not a fan of Zara at all but can you IMAGINE if the guy you liked basically said they’d pick someone else’s face and personality over yours? Everyone likes being complimented on their body but to have your body seen as your most appealing feature must feel like a slap in the face when you’ve been spending time with someone. Personally I’d kick off and tell him to do one
Someone along the way has said “it’s definitely to do with race” - I quite adamantly refuse to be called a racist because of my opinion on Zara’s behaviour. Yes, I understand that sometimes this does happen but in this instance, I am not a racist and I feel like my points are valid. I think her actions and decisions are irrational. As a woman who has seen DV all my life and in my previous relationship, I now am aware of the main signs. Faye was aggressive in her manner. Maura and Ekin-Su weren’t and to compare Faye with those two is mind blowing tbh. Ekin Su and Maura were sassy but they definitely never came across as aggressive.
Zara was in the villa 2 days and she decided to have a go at Olivia in front of several people and intimidate her because she had a conversation with Tom. She demanded she knew what they spoke about. She could have dealt with this situation in a much better way. Olivia had every right to talk to him if she wanted, Zara stole him from her the night before and she probably had things to talk about, but it really wasn’t any of Zara’s business. She has an intimidating tone when she speaks to people.
She has been screaming and shouting over everyone from the minute she walked in and anyone that even tries to give her advice or support - she doesn’t want to know. She still is giving it large. If someone spoke to me like that after me trying to help them, I’d distance myself as well.
Tanya was there for her after the Olivia thing and she distanced herself after that because the next day, she went after Shaq but it’s not okay for Tom to talk to other people… how dare he.
How dare Tom walk in front of her and then her tell him off for it.
She’s constantly giving looks, daggers and following Tom around the villa with her eyes to see where he is and who he is with at all times. She’s possessive and controlling which is a form of abuse in a relationship. She shows mannerisms which are trying to “claim” Tom like wrapping herself around him, exactly like what Luca did with Gemma. Everyone on this thread, Twitter, Instagram etc gave him dogs abuse for because he was trying to “claim his property”. These are all red flags and the behaviour is unacceptable. If it was a lad we’d all be going mental on here. But because it’s a woman, and she’s a WOC, we’re supposed to gloss over it and say it’s okay. It happens to men and women too all over the world regardless of their race.
I obviously don’t think it’s ok to single people out and make them feel isolated. But if I was in that villa , I’d be trying to stay clear of her because I wouldn’t be bothered with her constant tantrums.
Tom obviously did not help with the game last night as no one wants to be picked for their body and that’s fine. I understand how that is upsetting but there has been PLENTY of other reasons before last nights episode on how her behaviour is not on.
Zara was in the villa 2 days and she decided to have a go at Olivia in front of several people and intimidate her because she had a conversation with Tom. She demanded she knew what they spoke about. She could have dealt with this situation in a much better way. Olivia had every right to talk to him if she wanted, Zara stole him from her the night before and she probably had things to talk about, but it really wasn’t any of Zara’s business. She has an intimidating tone when she speaks to people.
She has been screaming and shouting over everyone from the minute she walked in and anyone that even tries to give her advice or support - she doesn’t want to know. She still is giving it large. If someone spoke to me like that after me trying to help them, I’d distance myself as well.
Tanya was there for her after the Olivia thing and she distanced herself after that because the next day, she went after Shaq but it’s not okay for Tom to talk to other people… how dare he.
How dare Tom walk in front of her and then her tell him off for it.
She’s constantly giving looks, daggers and following Tom around the villa with her eyes to see where he is and who he is with at all times. She’s possessive and controlling which is a form of abuse in a relationship. She shows mannerisms which are trying to “claim” Tom like wrapping herself around him, exactly like what Luca did with Gemma. Everyone on this thread, Twitter, Instagram etc gave him dogs abuse for because he was trying to “claim his property”. These are all red flags and the behaviour is unacceptable. If it was a lad we’d all be going mental on here. But because it’s a woman, and she’s a WOC, we’re supposed to gloss over it and say it’s okay. It happens to men and women too all over the world regardless of their race.
I obviously don’t think it’s ok to single people out and make them feel isolated. But if I was in that villa , I’d be trying to stay clear of her because I wouldn’t be bothered with her constant tantrums.
Tom obviously did not help with the game last night as no one wants to be picked for their body and that’s fine. I understand how that is upsetting but there has been PLENTY of other reasons before last nights episode on how her behaviour is not on.
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Giraffee95
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A lot of people called Faye aggressive. I did. Faye was aggressive.
Zara is aggressive because she's shouting over people, she spent 10 minutes shouting bruv at liv. She's not calling out she's fighting and shouting. She's trying to intimidate in her arguments, as Faye did, which is aggressive behaviour. Its nothing to so with race.
I appreciate that often WOC can get called aggressive when they are speaking up. But Zara is behaving aggressively. That's not speaking up or standing up for yourself. She's possessive towards Tom, she won't let other people speak to him, she shouts people down. She makes passive aggressive faces left right and centre. None of that is speaking up for yourself.
I don't agree Zara should be isolated, i have said that in my posts, but her behaviour is hard to deal with.
sassyprincess
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Funny how Olivia claiming its just a game when it’s Zara that’s upset yet when it was Zara calling her two-faced she cried and it was all serious. These people have such double standards and it’s just annoying to watch
1181carmenta
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If I was Zara? I’d go home. And the producers are fucked up tbh for angling this whole game to result in an uncomfortable experience for Zara. It’s almost inciting bullying.
Olivia in 5 years time, uploading selfies in the bath, holding a glass off fizz with a shit arse strawberry in, legs popped up resembling 2 wikinger hotdogs with the caption “thats jayden, hayden, blayden and okayden off to their nannas, its time for this girl to chillax, who needs a man”
glad others are noticing…and aaron picking her, saying she would talk about him behind his back? i don’t think he realises how irrelevant he is, not even the viewers are talking about you? what makes you think zara is?
Marilyn345
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Olivia is a very balanced woman, she has a chip on both shoulders.
