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The theatre is NOT allowing refunds despite the fact that this was not a full show, the covers were reading the script as they obviously didn’t know it, no props etc. I’m sorry but they should’ve offered something, if you’ve paid to see a show then they should’ve cancelled.
Realitybites
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The replies to people who wanted some form of refund are nuts. ‘You saw theatre ROYALTY!!11! With 0.3 seconds of prep. You don’t know how lucky you are’. Not everyone has that mindset and I’d be pissed if I paid £70 odd for a concert version, good cast or not.
bracrumbs
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I will die on the hill that “we’re putting on a concert!” isn’t a plot and Six is no more musical theatre than when I saw a reformed 911 play a throw-back gig at my local park. Fun music, cool moves (they still back flip!) and we all understand the background.Carousel is a cluster of a musical. “He beats me but I love him”
Dear Evan Hansen I cannot get on side with.
I love the music from Six but I hate the premise. They made Anne Boleyn look stupid when we know she likely wasn’t. And the fact little girls come out of that show wanting to be like “the pink one” picks me out so bad.
I have an irrational hatred of Heathers, but the songs are cool for the most part.
it’s fun music but it is not a musical!
kev1974
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But that's kind of it's brief now, the whole thing along with West End Live and the Olivier Awards show, the whole point is to be one big advert. The shows send their casts, in return they want people to be reminded that they can buy tickets for the full show somewhere.
I don't mind, the more of the public get persuaded to go and see any kind of theatre, ultimately means more theatre being put on, for all of us.
ohnomyhat
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Oh this would wind me up. It's not like she decided to run it on a whim, they could have had no show scheduled for yesterday to accommodate her.
Her behaviour is frequently rude and diva-ish and I think she's lucky she's a good singer because she would rightly be consigned to the dustbin otherwise.
Tangerine Dream
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You can hear the sigh of relief as the Beetlejuice UK casting announcement is made... and it is not Joel Montagewewewew. What a relief, I can go and see it now.
emmer_moans
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It puts the cover actors' reputations at risk, because even if they only had hours to rehearse, people will remember and talk about them messing up...what is worth it for the paycheck? Better to cancel a show and cite illness which is understandable, than put on a half-concert thing that is not worth the ticket price. Allow people to rebook. And it's the cast getting the flack on socials, the production team get to hide.
Tangerine Dream
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Trainspotting is going to be a musical.
Shows the utter desperation of the powers that be to rely on any recongisible IP to adapt, how depressing.
Shows the utter desperation of the powers that be to rely on any recongisible IP to adapt, how depressing.
historyobliterates
Chatty Member
She may be talented, but she needs to put the ego away. Having a look at tickets, if I decided to pay £185 for one of the best seats (plus train and hotel costs, and London isn't exactly cheap for either of those things) I'm not going to be happy if the show is cancelled because she decided to take a day off.
There are hundreds of exceptionally talented performers performing in the West End every day, she specifically is pulling in an audience because of her name. Her name and talent doesn't really excuse her for being able to just do what she wants.
kev1974
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Thread #4 was here
Paddington is open and getting loads of awards
Cynthia Erivo is open as Dracula
Leslie Odom Jr is doing a stint in Hamilton and tickets are like hot cakes
Kinky Boots has arrived at the Coliseum for about four months
Hercules is still Hercules-ing at Drury Lane
Greatest Showman is probably turning up there afterwards, but we still don't officially know for sure, or when
Beetlejuice opens at the Prince Edward soon but don't know who's in it
Back To The Future closes next month at the Adelphi, Spies in there in August but then Billy Elliot next Feb
Jesus Christ Superstar with every man and his dog taking turns in it, at the Palladium over the summer.
Amber's temporarily out of the Legally Blonde tour but looks like Hannah is stepping up - they both have their own threads
10 year anniversary UK tour of Waitress kicks off soon, starting the tour with Carrie Hope Fletcher - she also has her own thread
Curtain up folks
West End Gossip #4
This is very true. I’ve got tickets because (for me), it’s very special he’s coming over. Yeah unfortunately for me it's the additional costs e.g. train, hotel etc as it's not easy to get to London and back from where I live.
tattle.life
Paddington is open and getting loads of awards
Cynthia Erivo is open as Dracula
Leslie Odom Jr is doing a stint in Hamilton and tickets are like hot cakes
Kinky Boots has arrived at the Coliseum for about four months
Hercules is still Hercules-ing at Drury Lane
Greatest Showman is probably turning up there afterwards, but we still don't officially know for sure, or when
Beetlejuice opens at the Prince Edward soon but don't know who's in it
Back To The Future closes next month at the Adelphi, Spies in there in August but then Billy Elliot next Feb
Jesus Christ Superstar with every man and his dog taking turns in it, at the Palladium over the summer.
Amber's temporarily out of the Legally Blonde tour but looks like Hannah is stepping up - they both have their own threads
10 year anniversary UK tour of Waitress kicks off soon, starting the tour with Carrie Hope Fletcher - she also has her own thread
Curtain up folks
Tangerine Dream
VIP Member
I so detest online theatre fandom.
You've got theatreboard where they will moderate you to oblivion and you can't talk about anything even if cast/creatives have put it on their own socials, and also the self appointed forum police who have decided when you simply can't not like a show, like that weirdo ceebee in the Starlight thread...
Then you've got the Musical Theatre Appreciation Society on Facebook and oh my gosh. There was the most benign critique of Oliver! ever but the poster was instantly set upon for being mean and hurtful to the cast. All they really said was Nancy belts too much and that Bill Sykes looks dfferent to how he usually does, that was it. The reaction was ridiculous, absurd. People need to understand that you cannot turn the internet into your own personal hugbox or play nanny to a bunch of strangers who, if they can't stop googling themselves, need to take responsibility for their own well being. Be kind? Yes. I would not want to see anyone torn into or humiliated when they are a working professional doing their best... but I don't really ever see that kind of critique anymore so I don't know why these melts freak out just because person A disliked something person B enjoyed. Also, this is the same place where I've witnessed in real time them bully an austistic poster because as much as they fawn over William Fairchild (in a way I find quite patronizing, honestly), they will happy make fun of others.
You can't really have actual, real discussions about the arts anymore. It's always "but people worked hard on this" or "be kinnnnnd" and it's a shame.
You've got theatreboard where they will moderate you to oblivion and you can't talk about anything even if cast/creatives have put it on their own socials, and also the self appointed forum police who have decided when you simply can't not like a show, like that weirdo ceebee in the Starlight thread...
Then you've got the Musical Theatre Appreciation Society on Facebook and oh my gosh. There was the most benign critique of Oliver! ever but the poster was instantly set upon for being mean and hurtful to the cast. All they really said was Nancy belts too much and that Bill Sykes looks dfferent to how he usually does, that was it. The reaction was ridiculous, absurd. People need to understand that you cannot turn the internet into your own personal hugbox or play nanny to a bunch of strangers who, if they can't stop googling themselves, need to take responsibility for their own well being. Be kind? Yes. I would not want to see anyone torn into or humiliated when they are a working professional doing their best... but I don't really ever see that kind of critique anymore so I don't know why these melts freak out just because person A disliked something person B enjoyed. Also, this is the same place where I've witnessed in real time them bully an austistic poster because as much as they fawn over William Fairchild (in a way I find quite patronizing, honestly), they will happy make fun of others.
You can't really have actual, real discussions about the arts anymore. It's always "but people worked hard on this" or "be kinnnnnd" and it's a shame.
Yeah, like someone having a go because they said Jodie kept messing her lines up… like totally understandable, she had hours to learn the role but people paid like £70+ to see a musical not Jodie…. it’s not right. I would be fuming!
filthycop
Active member
to be honest I fast forwarded through pretty much all apart from The Producers (which wasnt a patch on seeing it for real). But it I live in London and go to theatre a lot (round about once a week, last week John Proctor is the Villain - amazing... next week Waitress but dreading it)... because I live in London nd live with theatre mad adult kids, and theatre is part of my life, I don't need a show like that to get me excited about shows, but those who don't live in London could be reminded by shows like this to get out any buy tickets, to have a look at tours in their local theatre etc (and that is a good thing) - I just think that as it is National Lottery night of musicals - there should be a National Lottery discount/lottery/sponsored night scheme that makes prices more accessible.
Living in London means I can go on the cheap, seat filling sites, getting in early and booking from mailing lists, or booking last minute and also my husband and daughter have access needs that get us a discount. If you live in Swindon, it costs a fortune to book in advance, pay for trains, meals out and maybe a hotel in London or Birmingham... most people would rather go on holiday... National Lottery should be making it easier for people to go as well as advertising what is out there
Living in London means I can go on the cheap, seat filling sites, getting in early and booking from mailing lists, or booking last minute and also my husband and daughter have access needs that get us a discount. If you live in Swindon, it costs a fortune to book in advance, pay for trains, meals out and maybe a hotel in London or Birmingham... most people would rather go on holiday... National Lottery should be making it easier for people to go as well as advertising what is out there
Mark81
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Yeah a concert and a full musical production are two very different things.
The 'you paid to see legally blonde, you got legally blonde' argument doesnt work as you literally didnt get the full Legally Blonde. You got a strip backed, under rehearsed, concert version. Not a fully staged musical production.
They are two different things, as we can see all the time in the west end with all the concert versions of shows. That's why they shove 'in concert' after the title.
I assume its the producers stopping refunding as the theatres themselves will be getting a lot of flack and losing important good will.
The 'you paid to see legally blonde, you got legally blonde' argument doesnt work as you literally didnt get the full Legally Blonde. You got a strip backed, under rehearsed, concert version. Not a fully staged musical production.
They are two different things, as we can see all the time in the west end with all the concert versions of shows. That's why they shove 'in concert' after the title.
I assume its the producers stopping refunding as the theatres themselves will be getting a lot of flack and losing important good will.
Glaschelle
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Jings she's still superb. To paraphrase a football reference -- form is temporary, class is permanent.
It will have made a nice change to have someone with talent on BGT.
And I know I'm being judgy, but how the hell can KSI, Amanda, Alesha or even Simon "judge" Shani Wallace. What tips could they give her!!!
And I can understand why this didn't make the main show. An absolute star, even in her 90s, compared to the dross that fills that show.
And they can't put her through to the live shows - she'd walk it!!!
Rob’s parents are an absolute dream, their support is what made that show for me! i cried purely for any child that needs that love and support of who they are when i saw the show
it’s not a masterpiece but it’s a fun couple of hours where you see possibly one of the luckiest childhoods simply because his entire family encouraged them to be themselves
it’s not a masterpiece but it’s a fun couple of hours where you see possibly one of the luckiest childhoods simply because his entire family encouraged them to be themselves
bracrumbs
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*heads straight to the Carrie Hope Fletcher threadNext Cabaret duo. Now those two I have heard of
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SweetPerdita
Active member
Why Am I So Single is the worst story I’ve ever seen on stage.
The problem was they decided to go with a plot that was entirely autobiographical (“isn’t it hard that we became ultra wealthy celebs really young, the fact we’re so rich we never need to work again has isolated us from peers and potential romantic partners, and our second show be a West End commission is a lot of pressure”).
Which could maybe work but they made the decision to make the characters that are literally supposed to be themselves working class and northern/Scottish, but with no attempt to understand those cultures or how isolating a sudden massive lifestyle change and wealth jump can be, and how wealth doesn’t necessarily equate to social mobility. It’s such a weird show.
The problem was they decided to go with a plot that was entirely autobiographical (“isn’t it hard that we became ultra wealthy celebs really young, the fact we’re so rich we never need to work again has isolated us from peers and potential romantic partners, and our second show be a West End commission is a lot of pressure”).
Which could maybe work but they made the decision to make the characters that are literally supposed to be themselves working class and northern/Scottish, but with no attempt to understand those cultures or how isolating a sudden massive lifestyle change and wealth jump can be, and how wealth doesn’t necessarily equate to social mobility. It’s such a weird show.