Tim Westwood

[elliemental]

It does go back to the old scenario of why did these girls not come forward at the time, but in saying that I'm not surprised, & do believe there is some truth in it.

Yes, people keep asking this question and other people also keep trying to answer it. Victims of abuse are traumatised, rarely believed and often their abuser is someone in a position of power and authority. In this case, it's someone in power who is also in the public eye. Coming forward to report r*pe is hard enough already, without subjecting yourself to public scrutiny with a bunch of total strangers discarding your trauma with nothing more than a "but why didn't you come forward sooner?" like it's no big deal so therefore you're only out for money or whatever.

In this case, the rumours around Westwood have been circulating for years. To the point where comments like yours have actually been a minority since everyone was already in on the open secret and these allegations have come as a surprise to precisely no one.

To me, he'd always been a bit cringey. A white, middle class (I think his Dad was a clergyman?) "acceptable" face for rap and hip-hop. Moreover, his imitating of "ghetto" talk was jarring to the point of uncomfortable. "Hello, fellow (black) kids...." *cringe*

 

[Pineapple glitter]

It does go back to the old scenario of why did these girls not come forward at the time, but in saying that I'm not surprised, & do believe there is some truth in it.

How do you know they didn't? Maybe they did and they were ignored. Different times back then.
They didn't have a access to media at the touch of a button.
Lots of women who have reported historical abuse today said they did in fact report back at the time but no action was taken.

 

[cheebs]

So the accusations are based on a documentary? Anyone can make a film and have people saying stuff. I’m not saying he’s innocent but where’s the legality in all of this, police procedures?

All those people who went to various police forces over 40 odd years about Savile. Worked out well for them. Totally believed & he was investigated properly.

Oh wait…no he wasn’t. In fact it took the revelation of an investigative journalism piece, rather like the one on BBC 3 now, being binned for the whole thing to finally come out.

 

[PeteM]

These tales have been around for years. He's a sick fucker.

There used to be a clip on YouTube of him at Camp Bestival, with the charming DJ patter "Any ladies in the house with a clean pussy? If your pussy don't stink, put your hands up". It seems to be part of this usual set "banter"...

 

[Jon9090]

The rumours about westwood have been circulating for years. I definitely see alot more people will be coming out about him in the foreseeable future. I remember my first year when I was at uni 09, Westwood come down for one off our student nights. There was a girl on my course who met westwood & he took a shine to her.
She put a post up on Facebook a day or two after basically saying westwood sexually assaulted her. And you know the wildest thing she got accused of clout chasing, begging for attention , & because she vented online her experience was obviously lies etc etc. I remember she ended up dropping out end of the first year. The mental toll of the experience must have destroyed her. The ton of abuse I used to see her get was disgusting when I think back to it now..
They always say there is no smoke without fire , but I've always found it weird how popular westwood has been in the music scene you've never heard about him with a partner or having children etc..
I think he is guilty personally but we will see how this plays out going forward.

 

[PeteM]

So the accusations are based on a documentary? Anyone can make a film and have people saying stuff. I’m not saying he’s innocent but where’s the legality in all of this, police procedures?

Of course, we can trust the Met to deal with such things properly as they're not institutionally racist...

FFS, these accusations go back decades.

Not matter what happens now his career is in the toilet.

I doubt it. Hardly anyone seems to ever get cancelled enough to kill their career permanently. He'll be back doing his Freshers gigs at unis in 10 years' time when he's 74, asking students if their pussy is clean...or maybe not.

 

[Foxybrown]

It does go back to the old scenario of why did these girls not come forward at the time, but in saying that I'm not surprised, & do believe there is some truth in it.

 

[Angelic37]

In the '90s a well known radio DJ did a roadshow in my area and chatted up a friend of mine, hand on her bum and we would have been in the lower years of secondary so 13/14 max.

I don't think we even thought about reporting it but this was in the days when it was normal to be cat-called and wolf whistled at whilst in your school uniform. Girls were just expected to put up with that kind of behaviour. Men, especially those with a bit of power and fame got away with it.

Yes I've been thinking about this recently. When I got to year 9, the skirts got shorter, the shirts got tighter. Me and my friends would frequently get wolf whistles and cat called from cars and we thought we were so grown-up and fanciable. In hindsight these were grown men leering at schoolgirls and no one thought anything of it. This was the 90s, which feels like last week to me, and during the 90s it felt like enlightened times, but in retrospect it was anything but.

 

[Stillwater]

Are people still seriously asking why girls and women don’t report at the time? Read up. Lots out there.

 

[Pushyplumb]

In the '90s a well known radio DJ did a roadshow in my area and chatted up a friend of mine, hand on her bum and we would have been in the lower years of secondary so 13/14 max.

I don't think we even thought about reporting it but this was in the days when it was normal to be cat-called and wolf whistled at whilst in your school uniform. Girls were just expected to put up with that kind of behaviour. Men, especially those with a bit of power and fame got away with it.

 

[_basic_]

The rumours about westwood have been circulating for years. I definitely see alot more people will be coming out about him in the foreseeable future. I remember my first year when I was at uni 09, Westwood come down for one off our student nights. There was a girl on my course who met westwood & he took a shine to her.
She put a post up on Facebook a day or two after basically saying westwood sexually assaulted her. And you know the wildest thing she got accused of clout chasing, begging for attention , & because she vented online her experience was obviously lies etc etc. I remember she ended up dropping out end of the first year. The mental toll of the experience must have destroyed her. The ton of abuse I used to see her get was disgusting when I think back to it now..
They always say there is no smoke without fire , but I've always found it weird how popular westwood has been in the music scene you've never heard about him with a partner or having children etc..
I think he is guilty personally but we will see how this plays out going forward.

I think the amount of people who have been abused and taken advantage of by people in the public eye over the last I don’t know how many years (because predators have always been around) will be unfathomable. I feel sick that my childhood era (a time of cool tv shows, laughing with family, memories etc) was blighted by disgusting people who used their power and status to take advantage of children and vulnerable people and only now it is coming out. I used to laugh and cringe at Tim Westwood on the tv and kind of feel sorry for him that he was trying to be “down with the kids” but the fact he was abusing his position being the sad little prick that he was makes it all the more sickening. I think he’s guilty, several women don’t just get together and thing they will ruin him (whatever status he even has now)

 

[AllSeeingEye123]

Anyone actually shocked what's come out about him today? No didn't think so. Anyway backstory for those not aware how he's been hiding in plain sight for years. I am going to guess that the vast majority of those who have gone to the police are black women.









https://twitter.com/sheistemi/status/1255864359601025025

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More Stories Of 62-Year-Old Tim Westwood Creeping On Uni Students Are Being Shared

The stories exposing Tim Westwood keep on flooding in.

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[PeteM]

Long been rumoured that him getting shot was down to messing with someone's young sister in his usual way.

Of course, it only gave Timothy some cred...

 

[PeteM]

I don't think there's anything you can do to educate ignorant people who think that. They're idiots.

 

[pommynoir]

I find the wording in the BBC article strange. Surely ‘unwanted and unexpected sex’ is rape?

I’m guessing the wording is because the girls are of age who have come forward, and “technically” didn’t say no?

i hope this isn’t swept under the carpet, I’ve seen a lot about it today. Dirty nonce.

 

[Dotty Merton]

Here's another one


"Ex club bar-manager here and we had him perform 3 times between 2015-2017.

He was very inappropriate towards female staff, and would hang around after closing time talking with the girls. He would come across nice/charming at first then very quickly began aggressively sexualizing the conversation. Calling the girls sluts/strippers and what he would/wouldn't do to them. On a few occasion he slapped a staff members backsides while they walked past.

He would talk to the male staff to find out which of the girls were single and would pester them specifically while they worked. He would always offer a few of them a chance to go back with him to his hotel. And when they inevitably said no he'd be quite rude.

The female staff at the club were very used to dealing with unwarranted drunk male attention (unfortunately), but they all said that Westwood was a top tier creep - it's one thing dealing with a drunk sex pest, but a sober 'celebrity' sexual predator is really not a pleasant experience. We stopped booking him."


Oh and apparently he likes to holiday in Ghana, with his predilection for young black women that is particularly concerning.

 

[cheebs]

I find the wording in the BBC article strange. Surely ‘unwanted and unexpected sex’ is rape?

There’s a documentary on iPlayer about him … how come it’s appearing so soon after the news has surfaced? Must have been made at least short while ago to film the interviews with the victims.

The news has surfaced because of the documentary. It was jointly done by the BBC & Guardian.

 

[pommynoir]

I definitely think his career is over no matter what. A lot of his audience are black people or people who enjoy black culture - they’re not going to want to see him at their events.

 

[Beaversabout]

I always found him a bit cringe worthy to listen too. Nothing attractive about him at all either. Also, calling girls 'baby' at his age. Ick.

 

[Pushyplumb]

I watched the documentary. The stories sounds very credible. Although he may not have forced himself on them by violence sounds like he prayed on young girls, offering them work experience or an opportunity in the industry and then made these teenage girls feel they had no choice.