I think we all need to do ourselves a favour in uk and acknowledge that the tories are not paying any more money to the NHS.There is one more thing I want to add:
Before the referendum it was all about: "we give money to the EU that could have gone to the NHS!"
Where is all of this money now and why doesn't it go to the NHS now?
Now it is: the NI increase is necessary to save the NHS.
Yes, and I didn't believe that any money that does not need to go to the EU would ever have gone to the NHS.I think we all need to do ourselves a favour in uk and acknowledge that the tories are not paying any more money to the NHS.
They should. However, they won't.
They don't pay for anything, our MP has all his travel and housing paid for, he is currently having an extension on his house, paid for! Beyond wrong and it takes away from them doing the job because they actually care.It appears that most people who become MP’s in the Tory party (although the Labour Party is not immune to this either) have either a silver-spoon background, went to private school, have friends in very high places and have no connection to a world outside of their inner circle. I think the majority of them should never become Members of Parliament, never mind becoming the PM! They simply do not have an idea of how people are forced to live. Forget all of the trotting round nursing homes and council estates for photo opportunities, we can all see through that shite. For the most part, they are patronising and in my opinion, very few have any brains at all. Most of them certainly lack compassion.
Yes, we know there are people who take the piss in life, don’t pay any tax and work on the side of their benefits, but most of them do it to make up the shortfall, to feed their families. It’s the same piss-taking, on a smaller scale, that the wealthy company directors do to avoid paying huge sums of tax. They are able to dress it up better, to make it look as though they are not at fault.
When Tony Blair was PM, he was on his own gravy train. He amassed a wealthy property portfolio, so anyone saying he was a socialist, well, that’s a load of shite. He feathered his own nest and played a blinder really. His Government built very few council houses, yet he seemed to accrue quite a few houses of his own, whilst raking in his salary and enjoying all the benefits of being a PM.
Frankly, they are all as bad as each other. I don’t vote for any of them, they’re all shite. The only one I possibly would vote for is Keir Starmer, or Angela Rayner.
This country is corrupt.
They love the gilded lifestyle being an MP brings. But, it is not just the Tory Party who do it, they all do it.They don't pay for anything, our MP has all his travel and housing paid for, he is currently having an extension on his house, paid for! Beyond wrong and it takes away from them doing the job because they actually care.
Did anyone genuinely believe that claim, that the EU money was going to go into the NHS?There is one more thing I want to add:
Before the referendum it was all about: "we give money to the EU that could have gone to the NHS!"
Where is all of this money now and why doesn't it go to the NHS now?
Now it is: the NI increase is necessary to save the NHS.
this isn't the only thing that was foolish to listen to.Did anyone genuinely believe that claim, that the EU money was going to go into the NHS?
That was a foolish thing to listen to.
"Oven ready deal" HAHAHAthis isn't the only thing that was foolish to listen to.
Most notably the promise that trade with the EU will be tariff-free and with minimal bureaucracy: hahaha! I ordered something from Etsy and had to go to the post office to collect and pay tariff and it took a long time to arrive!
But also the promise that the VAT will be cut from the energy bill and every household will save pounds each month is kind of ironic in the current situation.
The UK could never have promised tariff free trade, this was down to a negotiation with the EU and as they didn't want us to leave/wanted to set an example of us they were always going to make it difficult. But this just pushes trade within the UK which is no necessarily a bad thing, buy from UK makers.this isn't the only thing that was foolish to listen to.
Most notably the promise that trade with the EU will be tariff-free and with minimal bureaucracy: hahaha! I ordered something from Etsy and had to go to the post office to collect and pay tariff and it took a long time to arrive!
But also the promise that the VAT will be cut from the energy bill and every household will save pounds each month is kind of ironic in the current situation.
My soul is forever tarnished by looking at the DM article that came fromPoor lonely can of sausage and beans, but if you look below there's still a full shelf of Tesco beans underneath.
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"Buy from UK makers" seriously limits me as a consumer.The UK could never have promised tariff free trade, this was down to a negotiation with the EU and as they didn't want us to leave/wanted to set an example of us they were always going to make it difficult. But this just pushes trade within the UK which is no necessarily a bad thing, buy from UK makers.
The energy crisis is not down to the EU, it is a worldwide issue and likely to have happened either way.
Makes you laugh. Many of the UK companies have sold themselves out to foreign investors."Buy from UK makers" seriously limits me as a consumer.
Why would anyone vote for that?
Not everything I want to buy is being "made" in the UK.
Of course they couldn't have promised tariff-free trades but they did, same as removal of VAT on gas bills - this is unrelated to the global crisis.
Okay, then accept the customs charge. It is the EU that have put the charges on. We always knew there were going to be issues, so you either buy more from the UK and support out economy or you import from abroad and pay the costs and wait the time for it to arrive. We have always had a very low customs threshold in the UK so it is only items coming from the EU that are now affected."Buy from UK makers" seriously limits me as a consumer.
Why would anyone vote for that?
Not everything I want to buy is being "made" in the UK.
Of course they couldn't have promised tariff-free trades but they did, same as removal of VAT on gas bills - this is unrelated to the global crisis.
Treasury says it has 'no plans' to lower VAT on energy bills https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money...-bills.html?ito=native_share_article-mastheadOkay, then accept the customs charge. It is the EU that have put the charges on. We always knew there were going to be issues, so you either buy more from the UK and support out economy or you import from abroad and pay the costs and wait the time for it to arrive. We have always had a very low customs threshold in the UK so it is only items coming from the EU that are now affected.
Can you link where the Tories confirm this VAT relief?
Anything on the conformation pre referendum. Cannot say I remember it being said.Treasury says it has 'no plans' to lower VAT on energy bills https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money...-bills.html?ito=native_share_article-masthead
What? I was always certain that there would be customs to be paid once the UK is out of the EU.Okay, then accept the customs charge. It is the EU that have put the charges on. We always knew there were going to be issues, so you either buy more from the UK and support out economy or you import from abroad and pay the costs and wait the time for it to arrive. We have always had a very low customs threshold in the UK so it is only items coming from the EU that are now affected.
Can you link where the Tories confirm this VAT relief?
Here is a link you might find useful:Anything on the conformation pre referendum. Cannot say I remember it being said.
I am of the opinion that no one ever saw Covid coming and I struggle to see how we can hold them accountable for all their 'promises' after the last two years. It like saying to your kids, I promise to buy you a bike for Christmas next year, losing your job and being ill and then being expected to follow though. In normal circumstances, yes we should be expecting this but to not take in huge impact of Covid into things and expecting them to follow though on items said years ago is just unrealistic.
There is a long, long, long, history of people saying that there will be some kind of global pandemic at some point - of course you can’t predict exactly when but it has been one of the biggest risks that the Government has been made aware of for many, many years. The Government also carried out pandemic preparation exercises in the very recent past, but pretty much failed to act on any of the recommendations because it would have cost money. Whilst I think it’s fair to say that nobody could have predicted exactly what pandemic would hit and when, saying that nobody saw it coming isn’t true at all. In a lot of ways, the way that the current pandemic has played out has been pretty textbook and it’s just highlighted how poorly world Governments have managed it.Anything on the conformation pre referendum. Cannot say I remember it being said.
I am of the opinion that no one ever saw Covid coming and I struggle to see how we can hold them accountable for all their 'promises' after the last two years. It like saying to your kids, I promise to buy you a bike for Christmas next year, losing your job and being ill and then being expected to follow though. In normal circumstances, yes we should be expecting this but to not take in huge impact of Covid into things and expecting them to follow though on items said years ago is just unrealistic.
Here is a link you might find useful -Anything on the conformation pre referendum. Cannot say I remember it being said.
I am of the opinion that no one ever saw Covid coming and I struggle to see how we can hold them accountable for all their 'promises' after the last two years. It like saying to your kids, I promise to buy you a bike for Christmas next year, losing your job and being ill and then being expected to follow though. In normal circumstances, yes we should be expecting this but to not take in huge impact of Covid into things and expecting them to follow though on items said years ago is just unrealistic.
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