Sanz Autumnleaves new thread title: Creepy Ingham described by AI as an engineered illusion.Sorry, I'm late to catching up but I've just had a chat with AI (who in general I don't like, but this was interesting) about his screen shots about losing out on on the bitcoin trade.....
Your instincts are absolutely spot on. If this person is a known "fantasist," it is highly likely that his extravagant lifestyle is an engineered illusion. [1]
In the modern digital landscape, there is a massive, multi-million dollar industry built entirely around faking a luxury trading lifestyle to trick people. Financial regulators call this "lifestyle marketing." [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
There are several ways he might be funding or faking this lifestyle without actually being a profitable trader: [1, 2]
1. The Affiliate and Referral Loophole
This is the dirtiest secret in online trading. He doesn't need to make money from the markets; he makes money from his audience. [1]
- Broker Kickbacks: Trading platforms give influencers custom referral links. Every time a follower clicks his link and loses money trading, the broker pays him a percentage of those losses or trading fees. [1]
- Prop Firm Commissions: If he convinces people to sign up for those "$3,600 x 5 accounts" evaluation challenges, the prop firm pays him a heavy commission out of the sign-up fees. [1]
2. The "Rent-a-Life" Reality
The luxury items you see are easily faked or heavily subsidized: [1]
- Leased and Rented Assets: Exotic car rental companies and luxury Airbnb hosts explicitly cater to "gurus" who rent sports cars, mansions, and designer watches for a single afternoon to shoot months' worth of social media content. [1, 2]
- Credit Card Debt: Many of these individuals are highly leveraged in real life, drowning in high-interest consumer debt to maintain a wealthy facade until their "course" or "community" starts making money.
3. Fake Payouts and "Demo" Money
You cannot trust the screenshots or screen-recordings he shows. [1]
- Demo Accounts: Trading platforms allow users to trade with millions in fake "paper money" that looks identical to real accounts on screen.
- Influencer Perks: Some sketchy prop firms give influencers special "dummy accounts" with pre-loaded winning trades or free payouts just so the influencer can show off a fake bank transfer to their followers. [1, 2]
- Inspection Element: Anyone with 10 seconds of tech knowledge can right-click a webpage, change the code locally via browser developer tools, and make a $10 balance look like $10,000,000 for a quick screenshot. [1]
4. The "One-Hit Wonder" Effect
Even if he did briefly have a chunk of cash, it doesn't mean he is a skilled trader. Crypto is highly volatile. A complete amateur can get lucky on a random meme coin or a high-leverage Bitcoin bet, turn $500 into $50,000 overnight by pure chance, and immediately spend it all on a Rolex and a vacation. However, because they lack actual strategy, they almost always lose the rest of their money shortly after. [1]
The Bottom Line: Real, consistently profitable institutional traders are usually incredibly quiet, risk-averse, and boring. People who post dramatic, emotional stories about almost making $18,000 in 16 minutes are trying to sell an addictive, gambling-style fantasy—usually because selling that fantasy is their actual day job. [1, 2]
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Sanz Autumnleaves new thread title: Creepy Ingham described by AI as an engineered illusion.
DVG have exploited their kids through their childhoods but I hope they’ve all had a decent nest egg of money available to them at 18/21 which is something the Ingham kids won’t have 
The DVG girls privacy thankfully isn’t compromised nearly as much because they only have to vlog a couple of times a week and often these are challenges rather than daily life as such. Just a shame they are on camera at all before the age they can consent and there has been questionable footage which has been questionable many times over the years. They’ve had an education, friends, parties, holidays, driving lessons and a car, decent time with parents when they’ve wanted it, never short of getting what they want or need. They also have a very healthy relationship with grandparents & extended family. Their new house shows money is no object for them but they bought it with Sophie and her needs in mind with the seperate annexe and the pool to allow her to enjoy what she loves when she’s unable to leave the house for whatever reason. It will also help with her medical needs as water is so beneficial for her joints and stuff as well.
To think, the Ingham kid’s could’ve had money to make it worth losing their childhoods for because their parents were vlogging regardless once they realised it meant no more working involved beyond picking up a camera and editing. But one man and one woman lost it all for them. Chris and Sarah Ingham. The Ingham’s current homes have been bought and rented with Creepy in mind. To keep the kids isolated in Beltoft and reliant on him for anything. It’ll become very uncomfortable for them if someone recognises the family in Damac Hills 2 on the complex. It only takes one British family to realise who they are & living as close as they do to a swimming pool where children and young women will be vulnerable in their swimwear has done them no favours at all.
There is no big amount of money handed over on a milestone birthday, no driving lessons and certainly no money to get the girls a car each with them living month to month like they are. No decent spending money for proper clothes to suit them all - it’s all on credit which is why the 3 eldest have to stick to the cheap brands and hope they get a new wardrobe gifted every few months when the seasons change. No money to give their children proper access to education either. For the time they’ve been there, the 3 youngest could’ve been enrolled into school and a nursery even if it was just for a few months. Through loopholes there is no one monitoring their education in the UK and Dubai laws likely aren’t being followed either where education is concerned. They could’ve had their own brand collabs and lines (replica babies excluded) beyond tacky merch that would’ve given them a steady income flow for ages. But the money was wasted.
It must be difficult being an Ingham teen and trying to do the best with what you’ve got. No real friendships that don’t expand from the rent-a-friend her mother sorts for them now and again. Everyone that’s been involved with them over recent years has been the child of an IFam fan mum. There is no excess money to play around with so they’ve got to get creative with the fake shopping bags, the social media payday shopping trips to try and emulate they still have some wealth like their rival vlogging families. Wanting to drive but having to fake having no interest to save face. Knowing full well they might not even be able to get anything fancy for a first car despite Dad claiming none of them will ever have to work and they are set for life - that must hurt. Not that they are allowed to stay at home when they are old enough because they are dragged around the same few places year after year with no choice. I do often wonder if they watch the vlogs of the other family vloggers around at the same time to see how different life is. It’s become evident Esme had that lightbulb moment sometime over the last year and that’s really sad to see. Give it another couple of years and that’ll be Isla (hopefully they aren’t in the public eye by then though).
The DVG girls privacy thankfully isn’t compromised nearly as much because they only have to vlog a couple of times a week and often these are challenges rather than daily life as such. Just a shame they are on camera at all before the age they can consent and there has been questionable footage which has been questionable many times over the years. They’ve had an education, friends, parties, holidays, driving lessons and a car, decent time with parents when they’ve wanted it, never short of getting what they want or need. They also have a very healthy relationship with grandparents & extended family. Their new house shows money is no object for them but they bought it with Sophie and her needs in mind with the seperate annexe and the pool to allow her to enjoy what she loves when she’s unable to leave the house for whatever reason. It will also help with her medical needs as water is so beneficial for her joints and stuff as well.
To think, the Ingham kid’s could’ve had money to make it worth losing their childhoods for because their parents were vlogging regardless once they realised it meant no more working involved beyond picking up a camera and editing. But one man and one woman lost it all for them. Chris and Sarah Ingham. The Ingham’s current homes have been bought and rented with Creepy in mind. To keep the kids isolated in Beltoft and reliant on him for anything. It’ll become very uncomfortable for them if someone recognises the family in Damac Hills 2 on the complex. It only takes one British family to realise who they are & living as close as they do to a swimming pool where children and young women will be vulnerable in their swimwear has done them no favours at all.
There is no big amount of money handed over on a milestone birthday, no driving lessons and certainly no money to get the girls a car each with them living month to month like they are. No decent spending money for proper clothes to suit them all - it’s all on credit which is why the 3 eldest have to stick to the cheap brands and hope they get a new wardrobe gifted every few months when the seasons change. No money to give their children proper access to education either. For the time they’ve been there, the 3 youngest could’ve been enrolled into school and a nursery even if it was just for a few months. Through loopholes there is no one monitoring their education in the UK and Dubai laws likely aren’t being followed either where education is concerned. They could’ve had their own brand collabs and lines (replica babies excluded) beyond tacky merch that would’ve given them a steady income flow for ages. But the money was wasted.
It must be difficult being an Ingham teen and trying to do the best with what you’ve got. No real friendships that don’t expand from the rent-a-friend her mother sorts for them now and again. Everyone that’s been involved with them over recent years has been the child of an IFam fan mum. There is no excess money to play around with so they’ve got to get creative with the fake shopping bags, the social media payday shopping trips to try and emulate they still have some wealth like their rival vlogging families. Wanting to drive but having to fake having no interest to save face. Knowing full well they might not even be able to get anything fancy for a first car despite Dad claiming none of them will ever have to work and they are set for life - that must hurt. Not that they are allowed to stay at home when they are old enough because they are dragged around the same few places year after year with no choice. I do often wonder if they watch the vlogs of the other family vloggers around at the same time to see how different life is. It’s become evident Esme had that lightbulb moment sometime over the last year and that’s really sad to see. Give it another couple of years and that’ll be Isla (hopefully they aren’t in the public eye by then though).
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Do we think they'll still in Dubai for Christmas like she was saying yesterday?
I could see Jace doing a side kick in the last video I watched I feel this is gonna be a disaster waiting to happen for the little two.
When I moved house it was a great excuse for a fresh look so out with the young childish aesthetic and in with the new style. The new house looks like a carbon copy of every house they’ve ever had
When I moved house it was a great excuse for a fresh look so out with the young childish aesthetic and in with the new style. The new house looks like a carbon copy of every house they’ve ever had
Every room in every house is what Sarah wants and she wants bland beige and white with no colour added. It wouldn't be so bad to go with neutral walls (especially as it's rented) but add colour through accessories, bedding, cushions etc. Even when she says the girls can decorate their room it ends up being what she wants. It said it all the other day when they were shopping and she said she'd told the girls not to buy a throw because she'd already got them for everyone. Something so cheap and simple that would let them add their own personality and colour choice to their room but she had to choose for them and get there first.I could see Jace doing a side kick in the last video I watched I feel this is gonna be a disaster waiting to happen for the little two.
When I moved house it was a great excuse for a fresh look so out with the young childish aesthetic and in with the new style. The new house looks like a carbon copy of every house they’ve ever had
To be fair there should be a UN backed law shielding all of us from seeing Sarah Ingham in the nip
Ahhh ,living the dream on the run from just about everybody
This
We always decorated our own rooms I remember groovy chick and then I went for taupe and duck egg blue the statement wall with huge flowers was questionable I’ll admit
how are you supposed to learn if everything is micro managed ? 
Both girls have been seriously exploited from a young age.I guess the only thing is ,the Kaci girl is benefitting from her work ,Esme clearly is not! That necklace looks as bad as her mothers ,and will probably turn green!Kaci Jay got a real Van Cleef necklace worth thousands
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Then you have Esme parading about one of Dubai’s cheapest shops buying glue and cheap coat hangers with her fake Van Cleef necklace she got on Etsy for 30 quidthinking the family have made it in the new house
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They're not stopping grifting parents from exploiting their children for cash. They're just attempting (and will fail utterly btw) attempting to prevent everyone under 16 from organising their social lives in the way that the entire society has been set up to ensure we all have to.
If you are so disengaged from your own children that they can be recruited into extremist organisations online & you don't find out till they've run off to join a Neo-Nazi militia or the bleeping Mujahedeen then maybe - just maybe - the problem is you use electronic devices as free child minding providers. The solution is to know your kids, engage with the media they engage with so that you understand early if there are any red flags being waved at them.
Or you can pretend that this ban will work to keep them safe & snug & in the bosom of the homes where apparently no one wants to talk to them anyway. The second option however does come with the caveat that you've put them in a position where they'll lie to you & keep the fact they're using a VPN to do what every other kid they know is doing & use social media anyway.
Trust me. I'm in Australia & this "ban" his done a fifth of duck all to keep any kid offline but it has exponentially increased the percentage of kids keeping secrets about their use of social media from their parents.
My brother and his family have been living in Dubai for a long time and they use Dubai Dubizzle which is an amazing second hand on-line platform, years ago they bought their large fridge freezer just like the Minghams for buttons so many families are clearly leaving the war zone and want to off load their house hold "bit's and bat's" the whole family are a complete and utter mess.
My family would always come home to the UK every July till early September as the hear was too much, lets see how these bleeps get on.
My family would always come home to the UK every July till early September as the hear was too much, lets see how these bleeps get on.
I remember my room being pink and lime green at one pointThis
We always decorated our own rooms I remember groovy chick and then I went for taupe and duck egg blue the statement wall with huge flowers was questionable I’ll admit
took forever for my dad to paint over it a few years later.I love a second hand bargain you can get very good quality items for a lot less and it’s better than buying tat cough cough
.Saz said that get makeup peeled of in ten mins the day before the vlog and she was home so it looks like their aircon is the same quality as the kitchen.
ETA that rug looks Like prinny has wiped her ass across it
Doesn’t apply to them, dressing appropriately, nope, behaving respectfully, nope, parenting your children, nope etc etc
I painted all my furniture in black high gloss with darkest purple trim, a purple & black geometric wallpaper accent wall & black on all the rest. Darkest purple ceiling with a galaxy of glow in the dark stars, moons & planets.. Dad used to call it "The Black Hole of Calcutta" & at one point made a sign for the door "Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here" as a comment on the absolute fkn state of it.I remember my room being pink and lime green at one point
I thought it was the height of Gothic chic.
Groovy chick was the best!! I had a groovy chick duvet set.This
We always decorated our own rooms I remember groovy chick and then I went for taupe and duck egg blue the statement wall with huge flowers was questionable I’ll admit
When I was a bit older I wanted my bedroom to feel like I was under the sea. Blue walls, blue laminate flooring (honestly I thought I was so cool with that), under the sea duvet and curtain set and I stuck glow in the dark sea creature stickers everywhere. Loved it.
My bedroom was done out in all ex-WH Smith - my dad did their shopfitting - I even had the carpet tiles with the logo.I remember my room being pink and lime green at one point
Spot on! Dubizzle can be great for bargains once you sift out the obvious scammers.
She's already witching about how hot it is and it's only really warming up now.
I managed two summers there & I'm not morbidly obese.
OMG I never thought of the creepy creep creeping around the pool, or watching young teens from behind Sarah's new curtains. I think folks from Damac Hills should be warned about this intrusion of their privacy lolDVG have exploited their kids through their childhoods but I hope they’ve all had a decent nest egg of money available to them at 18/21 which is something the Ingham kids won’t have
The DVG girls privacy thankfully isn’t compromised nearly as much because they only have to vlog a couple of times a week and often these are challenges rather than daily life as such. Just a shame they are on camera at all before the age they can consent and there has been questionable footage which has been questionable many times over the years. They’ve had an education, friends, parties, holidays, driving lessons and a car, decent time with parents when they’ve wanted it, never short of getting what they want or need. They also have a very healthy relationship with grandparents & extended family. Their new house shows money is no object for them but they bought it with Sophie and her needs in mind with the seperate annexe and the pool to allow her to enjoy what she loves when she’s unable to leave the house for whatever reason. It will also help with her medical needs as water is so beneficial for her joints and stuff as well.
To think, the Ingham kid’s could’ve had money to make it worth losing their childhoods for because their parents were vlogging regardless once they realised it meant no more working involved beyond picking up a camera and editing. But one man and one woman lost it all for them. Chris and Sarah Ingham. The Ingham’s current homes have been bought and rented with Creepy in mind. To keep the kids isolated in Beltoft and reliant on him for anything. It’ll become very uncomfortable for them if someone recognises the family in Damac Hills 2 on the complex. It only takes one British family to realise who they are & living as close as they do to a swimming pool where children and young women will be vulnerable in their swimwear has done them no favours at all.
There is no big amount of money handed over on a milestone birthday, no driving lessons and certainly no money to get the girls a car each with them living month to month like they are. No decent spending money for proper clothes to suit them all - it’s all on credit which is why the 3 eldest have to stick to the cheap brands and hope they get a new wardrobe gifted every few months when the seasons change. No money to give their children proper access to education either. For the time they’ve been there, the 3 youngest could’ve been enrolled into school and a nursery even if it was just for a few months. Through loopholes there is no one monitoring their education in the UK and Dubai laws likely aren’t being followed either where education is concerned. They could’ve had their own brand collabs and lines (replica babies excluded) beyond tacky merch that would’ve given them a steady income flow for ages. But the money was wasted.
It must be difficult being an Ingham teen and trying to do the best with what you’ve got. No real friendships that don’t expand from the rent-a-friend her mother sorts for them now and again. Everyone that’s been involved with them over recent years has been the child of an IFam fan mum. There is no excess money to play around with so they’ve got to get creative with the fake shopping bags, the social media payday shopping trips to try and emulate they still have some wealth like their rival vlogging families. Wanting to drive but having to fake having no interest to save face. Knowing full well they might not even be able to get anything fancy for a first car despite Dad claiming none of them will ever have to work and they are set for life - that must hurt. Not that they are allowed to stay at home when they are old enough because they are dragged around the same few places year after year with no choice. I do often wonder if they watch the vlogs of the other family vloggers around at the same time to see how different life is. It’s become evident Esme had that lightbulb moment sometime over the last year and that’s really sad to see. Give it another couple of years and that’ll be Isla (hopefully they aren’t in the public eye by then though).
Don't know if this is country wide but at my hospital yesterday ( the one Chris used ti Jimmy Saville porter at !!) the receptionist asked me how long I had been living in the UK , there was a poster on the desk informing that they would ask this and not to be offended , on the way out I noticed a couple of large posters about NHS fraud , with telephone lines / website to contact with information.
They might find difficulty coming back to the UK and using the NHS in future , there must have been some policy shift in detection of misuse.
I have absolutely no problem at all about them using the NHS for the kids whatever their situation , but they might find that free treatment for Sarah and Chris might disappear, especially if they flog the UK house .
I think we all have experience that serious health matters can present themselves completely out of the blue , even if we work our upper bodies hard and fast for 72 hours , free health care in the UK is one of those luxuries that most of us do not realise until you need it , they are very foolish to risk losing that right .
They might find difficulty coming back to the UK and using the NHS in future , there must have been some policy shift in detection of misuse.
I have absolutely no problem at all about them using the NHS for the kids whatever their situation , but they might find that free treatment for Sarah and Chris might disappear, especially if they flog the UK house .
I think we all have experience that serious health matters can present themselves completely out of the blue , even if we work our upper bodies hard and fast for 72 hours , free health care in the UK is one of those luxuries that most of us do not realise until you need it , they are very foolish to risk losing that right .