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Pennylane8150

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Apologies if I have the wrong person, but wasn't withoutacrystalball also the snark vlogger who disappeared offline for a period of time because she was having massive legal issues about the things that she was saying? (Or it might have been someone else with crystal in the name/title)
Yes it was the same person.
 
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Tilly Kister

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I've literally just screenshotted this post to put in here but only just seen this now!

How crazy that this has all come out! I would assume going through therapy in light of Travis' affair has surfaced this truth and it's a shame it's come to this! I wonder if the '90%' that she doesn't talk to somehow doesn't believe it happened or feel the need to forgive it?
They're IBLP royalty. They will blame the girl. Their "counselling" after an incident of sexual assault follows the Gothard textbook:

If the complainant is a girl:
1: Ask the girl to contemplate what t was she did to tempt the poor man.
2: Tell the girl she needs to address such behaviour so that no other poor male will be forced to sexually assault her again.
3: Ostracise her &/or marry her off.

If the complainant is a boy:
1: Boys are never sexually assaulted. Therefore this is always a lie.
2: There is defo something wrong with that boy to make up such a demonic lie. Probably a homerseckshual lusting after the poor man.
3: Ostracise him &/or marry him off & tell his wife it's her job to pray the gay away now.
 
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Yellowfairy

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This is intresting apparently jessa duggar posted this statement earlier on her instagram stories then shortly after she deleted it. I wonder why she deleted it. Maybe she new about the new charges against joseph that have just been announced.

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WhatABore

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No not Kendra. She looks like she’s dissociating honestly and has been through hell. Who wouldn’t be in her position? She’s probably going to have a mental breakdown. I would. Joe looks like he doesn’t grasp the reality of the situation, or is maintaining composure maybe.

On a lighter note, look at Michelle bailing her out of jail. There’s bullet holes in the car they’re driving 😂 JB obviously buys low cash criminal impounds and this is probably from the lot. This is what the Byrne crime family in Ireland did with their “car lot” that was eventually seized by CAB. (Criminal Assets Bureau for those not Irish)

And her taking a picture of the photogs like “gotcha!” Fucking weirdos. Thought they didn’t wear trousers?

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there's another photo somewhere and it's a skirt over leggings. Although it does look like trousers 😂
 
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I read your comment after I posted mine apologies, spot on. I’d like to hope you’re right but sadly I don’t know. They’re all so deep in, likely will go back to a Josh situation. Jill still comes around them after all that, pictured with them at gatherings in that home in the last few years, you’d think her husband and her would keep their faith if they have to and get away. What they’re taught is engrained in them I’m afraid. Dysfunctional families even non religious protect each other. I did watch a clip where Jim Bob was acting overly excited with Kendra and Joe, kind of always noticed he would “flirt”? with her, but not exactly in a sinister way, more jokey. I didn’t watch the show just noticed he wasn’t that way with Anna in the wedding ep I did watch. Just rubbed me the wrong way. In the same way he was all too keen to talk to Josh about sex the night before his wedding if you get me

Edit- anyone follow mrskickstand on TikTok? Her videos and reporting seem quite good. She has a phone call posted from Joe in jail just now
Was about to say I saw a video on yt that had a phone call in prison it was on one of the news channels
 
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I'm in Ireland and their show used to always come on and my VERY Catholic Mum would tell us that's not what Catholics are meant to be like. They're just part of a cult and pure scumbags. This isn't surprising at all.

Does make you wonder what social media *famous* kids will turn out like too I don't mean pdfs but..who knows they're guinea pigs
Irish here also. My mum said the same.

I always thought they were catholic
 
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AllieBee

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No that woman is a nut job. I briefly looked into her. Amy used to be close to her apparently but no one would talk to her in Duggar land. Amy was commenting last week and admitted she hasn’t been in contact with any of them yet was commenting as if she was. Contradicting herself like. It looked as if that Katie Joy one got all her info from Reddit and others. She has lawsuits, google her it’s impossible to make head nor tail of all she is involved in honestly 😂 her saying “there’s more” “I said there were going to be others see”. Yeah no shit everyone knows that sadly and it’s the reality with the stats of sexual abuse— of course there’s more. She’s got to be mentally unwell.
Ah OK, ive never really been bothered enough to look into her!
 
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Someone online was saying that there was a huge hailstorm recently, which caused a lot of damage to people’s cars etc, creating holes in a lot of things.
These absolutely look like hailstones now. Apologies 😭🤣 I live in a US city and my mind went there
 
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Tilly Kister

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Mackenzie is 16.

She will have her own phone in the not to distant future.

That whole clean only ever seem to communicate by text and she will be the in demand babysitter.

Heaven help her.

These aren't messages that might get buried before a (today) 4 year old can get to them in 2039. There are here, now, for her. And we can bet our bottom dollar she has not been told anything close to the truth.

Major ick.
They give their kids drug dealer phones. No internet connection, full parental controls on & the parents are in every messaging group they use. Total cult control, remember? There will be one computer in the house. It will be in a public area and the kids will be closely observed whenever they use it to log onto an LBP approved "educational" site.
 
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Web30

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One of her brothers apparently. I’ve heard Carlin was a victim too. Who knows what the truth is though. Rumours spread so much until everyone thinks it is true. You just don’t know what to believe anymore.
Yes I read that as well, it wouldnt surprise me, I always found her sunny, everything is amazing attitude to much / fake. Could easily be hiding something.
 
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rainbowlemon

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Police videos of them both have been released .

For the timeline investigators went to their home after the first report against Joe then their home was searched which led to additional charges against them for their own children.

Locks on the outside of bedroom doors = the false imprisonment charge.

 
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juless77

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Just seen a leaked video of him being booked in after his arrest and apparently he was jovial and laughing about his brother already being in jail. What an absolute vile human he is.
Cab I ask where you managed to see this or are you not allowed to say ?
 
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Lovecrisps

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People but trying to work out when she conceived feels weird even for reddit.
I think they fact this rumour constantly comes up means it's legitimate to debunk it using actual facts. You're not even pregnant for the first two weeks as a pregnancy is dated from your last period date, conception is normally around 2 weeks after that, so this person is right, conceived early June. I hate the constant scrutiny of these women though and whether they're pregnant in photos, constant pregnancy speculation and rumours.
 
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