The Archie Battersbee case #4

[Kellyg]

Who is not suffering at all.

Hollie’s haters are forgetting there is a little boy at the centre of this when they spend their time mocking the working class and sneer and attack his grieving family. Oh and make disgusting comments about his family and about Archie himself.

It’s not an assumption, the comments - even on here which is better than most sites - have been utterly shameful in their unadulterated hatred against “chavs”.

Ah sod it then, he isn't suffering, lets plaster him all over social media!! My life. Are you actually slating people for calling her a chav?? If you act like one you're gonna get called one! If I see somebody acting like a dick, I will think...God...what a dick. Don't make out you don't either. So it's OK for her to slag the NHS off plaster their names on social media....but no one is able to call her out and call her a chav? Isn't that double standards?? She's allowed to do what she wants but nobody is allowed to disagree or call her out? Weird. When will you all get this into your heads. Archie is dead.. .he is...dead! It's heartbreaking but that's the truth. There is zero chance for recovery....zero!! So why is there a need to drag this out?? What about the families who need treatment that have a chance of survival?? Why is hollie allowed to demand he keeps his hospital bed and vital machines attached attached him for no reason whatsoever?? Stop encouraging this women and let them all grieve!

 

[judgejohndeed]

Another bit of hypocrisy I’ve noticed is decrying the peasantry’s inability to comprehend medical facts, while at the same time moaning about the legal process and not understanding it at all. Thinking that it’s disgusting that it’s even permitted, and should be shortcutted, sped up, or Archie’s family not allowed to use the legal system at all. Being short-sighted and not giving a shit that judgements made will affect all of our rights going forward.

Your hilarious attempts at armchair lawyering have certainly been a highlight of this thread for me

 

[lastdis]

Today I will be thinking of the staff at the hospital, the staff who have done their best, gave Archie some dignity and love, the staff who are and have always done what is best. x

 

[super grateful]

Finally caught up. That letter also made me cringe too. I’m so careful with my documentation, absolutely hate a typo! If someone handed that letter to me to give to my patient’s relative then I’d be embarrassed and have to emphasise that I didn’t write it myself. Sorry. But agreed that the content was good, blunt but good. (Blunt is needed). People don’t take things in during “big chats” due to emotion, stress, environment so having important things like that written down helps. Plus giving argumentative people who are definitely going to file a complaint a written letter stating exactly what will happen and at what time just covers everyone. Sensible.

I can imagine what the atmosphere would be like on my ICU if we were withdrawing on him. Feel so awful for the staff there and hope they’re safe. Security are so easy to reach in a hospital and they’re great, and I imagine this family are well known to them already. They’ll be pre warned about what’s going on and be prepped to attend. Usually this would be a Nurse led withdrawal scenario but it’s decent they’ve gone with a consultant - imagine it’s because of the abuse, questioning or disruption they’re expecting.

I just hope the other patients / families aren’t disrupted. How awful for any other family going through a tough time or a withdrawal that day to have to hear / see this utter nonsense and commotion rather than have their peaceful, dignified day that they deserve.

 

[looserj]

I’m rooting for Hollie. I want her to get another extension just to make her haters seethe. The amount of hatred she’s getting is primarily based on class. There is no way if she behaved exactly the same but was middle class, she’d be getting this level of vitriol. Her haters don’t give a shit about Archie (all this phoney concern trolling about a child who is confirmed to not be suffering at all). All they care about is feeling superior and bashing people they think are less intelligent and educated than themselves.

They may be able to spell better but her haters are no more intelligent. They’re bigots who hate the working class. They’re hypocrites who will cry “abuse!” at the sight of general, untargeted Facebook comments about the precious NHS, while making all kinds of horrific, libellous accusations and speculation about a grieving mother with obvious mental health difficulties. This includes accusing her of abuse, sexual abuse, neglect, murder, being a drug dealer who used Archie as a runner, and more. They bleat about Archie’s dignity while calling him a chav and accusing him of suffocating himself via auto-erotic asphyxiation. They go on archaeological digs through Hollie’s past just to find sticks to beat her with. They sneer about echo chambers, but cultivate their own echo chamber of bile and attack anyone who has the slightest bit of empathy for her as a person.

Her frothing haters deserve to fume. Vile snobs who think the working class should not have free speech or free health care.

What a load of bullshit, I am working class and very proud of it, It's nothing to do with class in the slightest. Its more to do with the more compass of certain individuals for their own gain an notirity

Notice again rooting for Hollie as if she's some working class hero, not a mention of rooting for Archie and wanting what's best for him, what the the hell is wrong with people?

Some people will jump on any bandwagon to 'stick it to the man' if you like regardless of what that bandwagon is.

 

[squatternutbosh]

Hollie Dance is a disgrace to parents in this country. I felt for her, it’s an awful situation to be in.
but she’s turned this into a complete Hollie Dance shitshow.
the inflammatory language she is using against the hospitals who are maintaining this charade for her by no choice of their own is defamatory and libellous.
she’s turning this into a cult following. There should be no Facebook page army. Heck there shouldn’t even be a fucking tattle about it. It’s an intimate and private subject that should be dealt with delicately and with grace. SHE has put all this shit out there for strangers NOT EXPERTS to gawp and speculate about her little boys condition. Everyone has become a keyboard warrior and everyone enabling her rank behaviour is complicit in this this boys continuous suffering.
she’s a heinous woman and it’s absolutely disgusting how she’s allowed the last moments of her boys life to become a circus.

 

[ChastityDingle]

Pity she didn't put this energy into helping Archie when he was alive, it's so sad to think that a 12 year old felt so low that he wanted to end his own life.

Poor little guy.

 

[BirkenheadTranny]

Ugh this template email written by an AA member to be sent to the health secretary makes me sad. Completely taken in by the whole sorry situation.

Please please we need your help to prevent Archie’s life support from being wrongfully withdrawn from him in hospital whilst he’s showing clear signs of NOT being brain dead! Please help us they’re trying to kill him at the royal London hospital on Monday the 1st August!. He needs more time to heal please please help his family we’re begging you! He’s made such massive progress since April he just needs time to wake up and show everyone this but if they take his life support away he will never get to show his mummy how strong he is and she will always be left wondering what could’ve or would’ve been.
Please please consider helping and intervening even if it only gives Archie an extra week x
Yours sincerely
Someone who believes in chances

Edit: just noticed that x on the end though which gave me a moment of light relief, I'm sure Barclay will appreciate it

Isn't his brain like seeping down his spine? Are these people fucking thick or what. The kid is dead

Ask this army who Azaylia is, Alfie, Charlie... they're the same bunch of twats who would have caused mayhem in the name of all those kids but I bet my last penny, those kids don't get a second thought now. It will be the same for Archie. They'll latch on to the next kid in the blink of an eye and Archie will be a distant memory. These aren't her friends or her allies. They're grief tourist's and actual fucking lunatics who live such sad and lonely lives, joining these pathetic armies is the only way they get some excitement. And to top it all off, they're thick as pig shit as well

 

[Saltypopcorn]

First time poster on this thread . Had a thought this afternoon (sorry if it has been mentioned I'm 7pages behind!), but spare a thought for the poor funeral directors who are next in line to have to deal with this dreadful uncouth, ignorant family.

 

[karmadrama]

Imagine having a poorly child in the same hospital as Archie while all this has been going on. Imagine the stress it must add to parents who are already going through hell. Don’t know how they can bite their tongue when it comes to Hollie.

What is this massive progress he’s made since April? And signs of not being brain dead? They’re all deluded.

 

[BirkenheadTranny]

We’ve unfortunately experienced this with our son and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone but when we saw the brain stem test we knew our son was gone. Clearly Hollie was and still is in denial, but you can’t bury your head in the sand and hope it goes away. Nobody wants to accept their child has gone and I hope no one feels the pain of walking out of the hospital without them but the doctors and nurses in the critical care units work tirelessly to save lives. They don’t want a child to die and believe me they feel your pain, they were in tears along with us and then they do it again the next day. My son’s organs saved four peoples lives including a baby girl and little boy and it brings me comfort knowing they are still alive over four years later because of my son. Sadly this won’t be a possibility for Archie now because of the deterioration of his body. Another thing cases like this bring up is did we not fight hard enough for our child? Did we not love him as much as Hollie does because we let him go. It’s hard but our son died looking the same as he did when he went out that night not a shadow of his true self as I would imagine Archie looks like now…. And just to add this all happened on Christmas Eve as well just to add to the heartbreak…..

I am so sorry for the loss of your beautiful son. What a hero he is even in death to have saved all of those lives meaning his legacy lives on in them 4 people. I am in awe of you and your family. What amazing, selfless parents you are. You should be so proud of yourselves for how you conducted yourself at what was the worst period of your life. Absolutely gorgeous parents. He would be so proud of you

 

[JohnLewis]

It doesn’t set a legal precedent, but I’d be worried if they ignore the UN’s request it will encourage the government to ignore the UNRDP in general. Which is bad for all disabled people, going forwards.

He’s dead. Not disabled. Dead. It’s all out there for you to read. Why is it so hard for people to understand this? His poor body is decaying in front of us and those Dr’s and Nurses Hollie slagged off on todays news have worked tirelessly to keep him like that for her yet the ungrateful cow doesn’t stop. She has denied this boy dignity even in death. Vile.

 

[BeansOnBeans]

I can see the 'fly with the angles' coming next

Sorry, I couldn't resist

 

[OoErrMissus]

Call me cynical but I do think her leaving the names visible was a deliberate act.
We all know she’d absolutely hate to cause an accidental witch hunt

 

[Serene Serena]

Sadly though, Archie hasn’t even an infinitesimal chance of survival. His brain stem has herniated into his spinal cord and there is necrotic tissue in his lumbar region, his lungs and gastrointestinal tract.

There IS a fate worse than death and Archie is living proof, if the word living can be used under such sad circumstances. He tried to end his life on the 7th April and was found too late for recovery but in time for medical intervention - all of which has been fruitless.

The poor child needs to be allowed to rest in peace, and childhood memories of him cherished by his family.

 

[beyoncescleaner]

At the end of the day, Hollie got her wish; she got four extra months with him.

And she just wasted it by being angry and fighting with everyone. She’ll probably regret behaving like that and wish she’d just appreciated the time she had with him.

 

[judgejohndeed]

I don't like the word chav tbh but it's certainly lacking class to go around accusing a load of medical and legal professionals of wanting to 'murder' a boy who has been dead for months. Upsetting for other people who have been in her position and made the difficult but justified decision to let a loved one die with dignity, and all the people in that hospital who likely to have deal with her tantrums while they're in a traumatic situation of their own. It's nothing to do with what social class she is and I'm not surprised she's getting a lot of criticism, her behaviour is atrocious?

 

[Gossngiggles]

I’m rooting for Hollie. I want her to get another extension just to make her haters seethe. The amount of hatred she’s getting is primarily based on class. There is no way if she behaved exactly the same but was middle class, she’d be getting this level of vitriol. Her haters don’t give a shit about Archie (all this phoney concern trolling about a child who is confirmed to not be suffering at all). All they care about is feeling superior and bashing people they think are less intelligent and educated than themselves.

They may be able to spell better but her haters are no more intelligent. They’re bigots who hate the working class. They’re hypocrites who will cry “abuse!” at the sight of general, untargeted Facebook comments about the precious NHS, while making all kinds of horrific, libellous accusations and speculation about a grieving mother with obvious mental health difficulties. This includes accusing her of abuse, sexual abuse, neglect, murder, being a drug dealer who used Archie as a runner, and more. They bleat about Archie’s dignity while calling him a chav and accusing him of suffocating himself via auto-erotic asphyxiation. They go on archaeological digs through Hollie’s past just to find sticks to beat her with. They sneer about echo chambers, but cultivate their own echo chamber of bile and attack anyone who has the slightest bit of empathy for her as a person.

Her frothing haters deserve to fume. Vile snobs who think the working class should not have free speech or free health care.

Did you forget about the little boy at the heart of al of this? He is not a pawn to be used in some bizarre class war that you have built up in your head. Yeah some people look down on Hollie and her ilk but let’s face it, they have been giving them plenty of ammunition.

 

[grampositive]

Ugh this template email written by an AA member to be sent to the health secretary makes me sad. Completely taken in by the whole sorry situation.

Please please we need your help to prevent Archie’s life support from being wrongfully withdrawn from him in hospital whilst he’s showing clear signs of NOT being brain dead! Please help us they’re trying to kill him at the royal London hospital on Monday the 1st August!. He needs more time to heal please please help his family we’re begging you! He’s made such massive progress since April he just needs time to wake up and show everyone this but if they take his life support away he will never get to show his mummy how strong he is and she will always be left wondering what could’ve or would’ve been.
Please please consider helping and intervening even if it only gives Archie an extra week x
Yours sincerely
Someone who believes in chances

Edit: just noticed that x on the end though which gave me a moment of light relief, I'm sure Barclay will appreciate it

 

[CELESTE CROCKETT]

Hi all
Just joined after finding Hollies real name on twitter and then googling.
I felt something was off with her from the start.
I am a nurse of 30 years and also a midwife and mum of 3. I've also had experience of a child on the brink of life/death.
My 6th sense was altered when I saw she was going on Piers Morgan! Wth?!
Shes not very bright and will just make herself look even more thick.
The things she has said about murder, killing are unforgivable but not shocking to me.
We had a similar case where I used to work. Drs wanted to withdraw treatment. The family beat the consultant up and broke his nose. He was my daughters consultant and absolutely wonderful. They had to visit with security guards and the atmosphere was awful when they were there.
I fear a similar situation here
Thankyou for all your insights I thought I was alone in my suspicions.
That's not to say I feel no compassion for the family or their awful situation. However Alfies best interests are what the medical team focus on. They don't withdraw treatment willy nilly or because of cost. She and her supporters are really spouting rubbish.
I wonder if she has anyone who would be brutally honest with her or are they all scared of her ?