The Archie Battersbee case #11

[littlepup]

Archie was the victim in this circus so I’m not sure what you’re implying?

Misplaced anger toward the NHS, nurses and doctors who have become victims of Hollie’s accusations and now the wrath of Archie’s Army et al? That’s how I read it.

 

[Jwren]

Hi honey, I think you’ve got me mixed up with some else. I’m married, 45, 5 klds. Honest.

I’m not sure the person you’re aiming your comment to will know you’re replying to them as you haven’t responded on their actual comment.
If you click bottom right where it says quote and then type your comment under the word [/QUOTE] then click post reply when you’ve finished, it will link it to that poster. x

Misplaced anger toward the NHS, nurses and doctors who have become victims of Hollies accusations and now the wrath of Archie’s Army et al? That’s how I read it.

Thank you, it wasn’t how I read it but yes that would makes sense.
I assumed and wrongly, they saw Hollie as the victim, although thought it odd saying victims. It’s been a long day.

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[PenelopeTitsDrop]

I know what you mean.I told my husband today,that I never thought I would ever,lose sympathy,for someone who was loosing their child.It's obvious that she lies and it's dangerous what she says .She is a narc.It was all about her and she stripped away Archie’s dignity and courted the press,which will backfire.She just kept stooping lower and lower.She has wanted to 'win' and she has dragged that hospital and the staff,through the mud because vshe couldn't stand it,that they put Archie first.I have cried over Archie because that beautiful boy,deserved so much more.

That's exactly it. It's so rare to not feel total sympathy for someone who has just lost their child, that I think I went into the automatic mode of thinking we should all be a bit respectful. But not only was it not my place to say that, this isn't a normal situation so we can't feel/act like we would maybe normally do. And that says a lot and is so sad in itself - that the behaviour of HD has led to a bunch of really caring people feeling just anger towards her, with the only sympathy being for Archie.

 

[Gotta Have Faith]

I wonder if the reason she made the statement so soon after his passing was because she was being told about all the other weirdos like that Ollie guy announcing it all over sm? So, to end speculation and gossip, she went out and did the interview?

ollie was archies boxing coach

 

[Porco Misere]

I think whoever wrote it is must be on the wine too… about 6 bottles deep

Without the wine it might be “venomous snakes”!

 

[Gotta Have Faith]

I'm very sorry for your loss and for the experience you went through as a child.

Unfortunately death and illness of loved ones is something we all have to go through, and those experiences are never nice and will always affect us. Some of us may be dignified and others may scream, shout and blame others, it's human nature.
As per a previous post I made, I think it's possible she went out to make the announcement so soon because other people were making statements and announcements on social media and so maybe she wanted to make her own truthful statement (when I say this I mean truthful in that Archie passed, not talking about the murder etc).
I think when we are sad and not thinking straight, we may use emotive language, we may not realise the effect of such language on other people.

Re. İsmail, what a terrible situation and yes his mother was extremely dignified. However someone else in her shoes may have reacted completely differently, not being able to be by his side knowing he was afraid and when he passed away, not being able to go to his funeral, that they would have kicked and screamed, they may have gone to the hospital and fought to try to get to him, although not "dignified" I don't believe they would be wrong.

As per my first post on this thread, I probably shouldn't have posted because I hold a different view to maybe 95% of posters on here. My view is different based on my own experiences part of which I documented on here.
I have seen the judgment of the family and I feel some of the comments are unfair. Most normal people don't know what cyanosed means and so they describe what they feel they saw - their loved one suffocating. Whether that is the correct medical terminology, it's what they believe they witnessed. And I feel that the medical professionals (such as the one who wrote that comment) should be understanding and compassionate that family members aren't always going to know what language to use and that sometimes they may react unfavorably to their loved ones passing away.

I don't have much more to say other than that I'm glad Archie is now resting in peace and not suffering.

Sorry, just edited to add, if it is true that hollie has been repeatedly abusive towards hospital staff/Archie etc. then that is disgusting behaviour which obviously I do not condone. I'm sure if there is any truth to her having being abusive towards Archie/keeping drugs in her house/being aware that Archie was depressed and tried to commit suicide the day before, it will come out.

12 wraps of c is what Police found that night, is the info I have from someone who knows her, they used Archie as a drug mule, she and the dug dealer boyfriend she met on FB

 

[Tofino]

She's done a LOT the majority of us don't agree with but I saw that smile as she walked away too.. to the reporter in the corner who would have gave her that sad smile thing people do when someone has lost someone.

All the midwives gave me that sad smile when I was leaving hospital after my son was stillborn, I gave them a smile back, said thanks for everything and left.

That looks like the sky news reporter who interviewed Hollie and wrote her glowing article yesterday. In the article it said she had known her 2.5 months and Hollie would WhatsApp to go for a coffee. So they must be very friendly.

https://news.sky.com/story/archie-battersbee-a-mothers-fight-to-save-her-son-12665554Archie Battersbee: A mother's fight to save her son

 

[Gotta Have Faith]

The statement said they stopped treatments at 10am then took off the ventilator 2 hours after so approx 12pm and then TOD 12.15pm

They took vents off at 12noon, Archie died at 12noon ! Hollie believed she saw him breathing on his own AFTER vents were removed. TOD i actually 12noon, it's Hollie being difficult again and laying the groundwork for a lawsuit to say she saw him breathing on his own for 15 mins. That is the discrepancy. She . the last word over the Hospital

 

[Jeddiwarrior]

She’s vile and entitled..and dumb as ditchwater.

That’s a bit harsh!

 

[Rebekah leigh]

That’s a bit harsh!

It's really not! She's done this for attention not for her son.

 

[Gotta Have Faith]

@poppystardew deserves a shout out too for being our eye in the sky and confirming that at least Paul tried to sensibly talk them into grieving privately before taking his leave to get away from their engineered insanity. Your kid has barely stopped breathing and the harpies are carrying their grief straight to a camera. This was never about Archie or their family being able to grieve "privately" and he must know that for sure now. How sickening.

+ yes corpses do turn blue due to no oxygen in the body IIRC.

for everyone reeming paul for showing up late, i would like to stress that i saw him going in for the first time at around 12. i do actually have to work sometimes so he may have popped in before, but i started from 6 so i’m not entirely sure.

also for my friends from tattle.life, hiya!! report me all you want but i’m not a licensed professional and all of my postings are through a proxy. go after my nurse friend? nice try! the royal has at least 7,000 members of staff on their books.
what’re you gonna do? call up the gmc and be like “somewone on the internets said mean things “

 

[Rebekah leigh]

They should grieve in private, that poor boy isn't a money maker or something to share round the Internet. He was a living breathing human with feelings. Honestly his mother should be absolutely ashamed of herself doing what she has done for attention and whatever else! And the people that sit and comment on tiktok and fb saying they didn't give him a chance answer me this! Why didn't he try to breath on himself when they turned the machine off?, why hasn't he opened his eyes or made any sort of noise? Because he's been gone since May but fuking Holly didn't want to just let him pass in peace she wanted all the media attention and blaming other people for her failings as a mother! I don't care what anyone says she's a disgrace.. and the fact that she kept her sons body In a hospital bed for months while she goes on this mad journey through the courts instead of spending every last minute she can with him just shows what her motive was.! She couldn't wait to update the media about his death, while me personally would have told them to duck off while I sit with my son!

 

[Louanne]

They said 'machines were turned off and he was managing on his own for 2 hours, then went blue, and that it was awful to see a family member suffocate, it's barbaric '

The family member said medication was withdrawn at 10, ventilation was off at 12 and by 12:15 he was blue (no idea why they needed to share that detail) but that means he definitely did not manage on his own and passed pretty much as soon as ventilation was withdrawn.

 

[LennyBriscoe]

I think the point is that none of us know what happened behind those hospital doors. I said previously that they way in which a loved one of mine was treated by the nhs was appalling. I recognised that I needed their help so remained polite towards them until we were moved but as I said, had I not insisted on second opinions from specialist icu nurses and consultants and to sit with my loved one 24/7 I truly believe they would be dead or extremely disabled.

Why was she hostile? Was she told one day that there was hope and the next day another person tells her they were taking her to court because there was now no hope. Were any mistakes made? Was she spoken down to because of her social status? I'm not saying any of these things happened but in reality we don't know.

She may have been in denial since day 1, she may well still be and that's why she's going all guns blazing, trying to place blame and accusing them of murder. She is in a terrible position and I have a great sympathy for her. I'm not excusing certain behaviour but I will say I have understanding and empathy for her and her family.

The entire case has been scrutinised by the highest Judges in the land and Hollie herself has given countless interviews - happy to be corrected if I’m wrong but has it ever been mentioned that the family were lied to or misinformed?

I understand there are a few people here who have awful experiences with the NHS, but I honestly don’t believe this Is another case of it. I think I’m a good judge of character and she must be a nightmare to deal with. She appears to me to have very fixed ideas and it’s her way or no way and to he’ll with everyone else. There will be an inquest into this and she won’t be able to control the narrative, however if people are of the mindset that the NHS have failed them then it won’t be a big stretch to think the hospital, all the Judges and Coroner are all in on some conspiracy to keep a poor boy on life support over two months after he died for no ‘gain’ at all.

I saw the interview on the BBC and ITV news and they cut the bit about Archie being suffocated.

Hi everyone. New to this thread. Could anyone please direct me towards a post or article explaining what really happened to start all this off? If it wasn’t the tik tok challenge, what was it? Thank you.

Rest in peace buddy

Someone has probs answered already but you’re really best to go back to the start

 

[terfette]

this winds me up too!!!
also soooooooo sick of everyone praising her saying she fought for him and was doing what any mother would do, as if he had a chance to wake up! I just don’t understand how the family and their army can’t grasp that he was brain dead and had no way of waking up. The interview outside of the hospital was disgusting on so many levels. Firstly how could you even speak and face cameras hours after your child has died, also the media for doing the u get view and filming it. I can’t believe they never thanked the staff who have cared for Archie xx

Not only that, but she lied through her teeth and tried to make it look like they were wrong. Trying to sound it like he lived for 2 hours 15, evoking images in her followers minds of archie attempting to breathe etc. she actually tried to make it look like they’d been wrong all along and he tried to live and would’ve had a chance if they’d continued treating him.

 

[irishlassie]

Only started following the case when it became headline news! A 12 year old girl in my area took her life and was on life support but brain dead, being kept alive by machines just like Archie her family gave her dignity and let her go as there was no hope!! This “mother” failed Archie in his short life and has failed him in death. She made it all about her and her media circus! She wanted the limelight the fame, attention and money!! While she was of jumping interview to interview the staff cared for her son but instead of being thankful she run them into the ground!!

I’ve no sympathy for holly my sympathy is with Archie how he was failed a child in life and death may he RIP

I have no doubt she will make his funeral as public as possible as it will pull on heart strings and the donations will role in

 

[ATV2021]

Not only that, but she lied through her teeth and tried to make it look like they were wrong. Trying to sound it like he lived for 2 hours 15, evoking images in her followers minds of archie attempting to breathe etc. she actually tried to make it look like they’d been wrong all along and he tried to live and would’ve had a chance if they’d continued treating him.

The words used do conjure up an image of horror, especially when it's a child. Medicine and machinery is amazing seeing as it kept someone's body going for so long as it were and she's said she had a favourite nurse, was just sad they couldn't give thanks but goes against all narrative they've been pushing I guess

 

[Mollywobbles]

Without the wine it might be “venomous snakes”!

Doncha mean veminuss sneaks

 

[Blond3g1rl]

I wonder if she tries to sue the NHS they will just lob some money at her to keep her quiet and make her go away. Sometimes it’s easier to pick your battles.

 

[Apostate]

That's not going to happen, his mum will drag this out so much and try and sue whoever she can.

the worry is that to draw a line under it all the hospital will settle with her rather than face years of publiciity from her litigation