Teaching - the good, the bad, the ugly

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Hey everyone thank you so much for all advice and support when I was asking for advice about finding a job. Since then I did manage to go back to my old placement and found it really useful to observe some more teaching and do a little myself. I did have another interview shortly after but was unsuccessful. I was initially very disheartened but in hindsight it’s probably for the best as I couldn’t get a visit beforehand and I only found about the interview a few days before, as for some reason their emails weren’t reaching me, so I didn’t have much time to prepare.


I then signed up to a supply agency in the hopes of being able to teach through that. I didn’t end up getting any cover teacher work, but have taken on an office temp role in a school that happened have a vacancy. I applied and found out I got the job today! I’m honestly so happy, as I was ready to give up on finding a job for this September, but thankfully I’ve managed to secure something. Although now the excitement’s worn off I’m now realising I’m going to be completely responsible for 30 children from September 😅.
Congratulations! It's really good that you know the school too.
 
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I started work in a local primary a couple of years ago as a tutor for COVID catch up. After almost 10years in private nursery environments, I have bloody loved it. Funding went down but got kept on as a TA supporting SEN children, part time. Pay is poor but I'm just happy to be in a job I love rather than my previous one where I was so anxious going in each morning, I was nearly sick daily (bullying manager).

We're lucky to have an amazing SLT and I work with teachers who truly value their TAs and any support staff, we're like a little family.

School funding is piss poor though, and that side has been a total eye opener. Hence why I'm only part time now, funding for the SEN children I work with is nowt. They're left to cope on an afternoon with no support as they can't afford to pay me all day. It's such a shame 😔 Nothing the teachers can do - they've got a class of 29 other kids to sort too. That side is frustrating but I won't leave unless I'm told too, as I won't go back to nursery work.
 
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I started work in a local primary a couple of years ago as a tutor for COVID catch up. After almost 10years in private nursery environments, I have bloody loved it. Funding went down but got kept on as a TA supporting SEN children, part time. Pay is poor but I'm just happy to be in a job I love rather than my previous one where I was so anxious going in each morning, I was nearly sick daily (bullying manager).

We're lucky to have an amazing SLT and I work with teachers who truly value their TAs and any support staff, we're like a little family.

School funding is piss poor though, and that side has been a total eye opener. Hence why I'm only part time now, funding for the SEN children I work with is nowt. They're left to cope on an afternoon with no support as they can't afford to pay me all day. It's such a shame 😔 Nothing the teachers can do - they've got a class of 29 other kids to sort too. That side is frustrating but I won't leave unless I'm told too, as I won't go back to nursery work.
Funding is just awful. I see it every single day, constantly schools are being asked to do more with an already depleting pot. It's really hard ☹
 
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Hey everyone it’s me again with another job related dilemma 🤣.
After I secured my job I reunited with some course mates for our end of year celebrations (it wasn’t that exciting as hardly anyone turned up) and I found out my friend had been unable to get work and was very disheartened after being racially discriminated by the last school she’d interviewed at. She then signed up to supply and applied and interviewed at lots of schools to try and find something for September. Then another vacancy at my school was posted so I told her about it and she applied, got an interview and was successful. I was also excited as it meant we’d both have someone we knew and who was in the same boat as we navigate our new careers.
Last week we had some induction days and then transition afternoons so she was introduced to rest of the staff and what should have been her new class. During these days she did mention to me how she’d been offered a terms supply by the supply agency, who she didn’t even want to inform as she for some reason and then was confused when they were annoyed. She then was offered a year’s maternity cover at a secondary school (we did primary Ed 🤷‍♀️) and wasn’t sure about turning them down. All throughout I told her she’s accepted this job now, really wanted it and should just be upfront with the other schools as she always said she’d rather have a permanent post in a primary school, rather than a short term position and having to go through the process of applying again.
She carried on attending the induction and transition days/meetings at my school and even came in for handover this week. Only now she’s decided to take the maternity cover job and turn down the permanent one. She called the head this morning and seems to be surprised that he was cross and called her unprofessional and now I’m not sure whether I should bother replying to her or if I should apologise to him on her behalf as I am currently working in the office so seem him regularly.
We weren’t really close anyway so it’s not like I’m losing a major friendship but I just feel bad for the school and slt as they now only have a week left of term and not enough teachers.
 
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Hey everyone it’s me again with another job related dilemma 🤣.
After I secured my job I reunited with some course mates for our end of year celebrations (it wasn’t that exciting as hardly anyone turned up) and I found out my friend had been unable to get work and was very disheartened after being racially discriminated by the last school she’d interviewed at. She then signed up to supply and applied and interviewed at lots of schools to try and find something for September. Then another vacancy at my school was posted so I told her about it and she applied, got an interview and was successful. I was also excited as it meant we’d both have someone we knew and who was in the same boat as we navigate our new careers.
Last week we had some induction days and then transition afternoons so she was introduced to rest of the staff and what should have been her new class. During these days she did mention to me how she’d been offered a terms supply by the supply agency, who she didn’t even want to inform as she for some reason and then was confused when they were annoyed. She then was offered a year’s maternity cover at a secondary school (we did primary Ed 🤷‍♀️) and wasn’t sure about turning them down. All throughout I told her she’s accepted this job now, really wanted it and should just be upfront with the other schools as she always said she’d rather have a permanent post in a primary school, rather than a short term position and having to go through the process of applying again.
She carried on attending the induction and transition days/meetings at my school and even came in for handover this week. Only now she’s decided to take the maternity cover job and turn down the permanent one. She called the head this morning and seems to be surprised that he was cross and called her unprofessional and now I’m not sure whether I should bother replying to her or if I should apologise to him on her behalf as I am currently working in the office so seem him regularly.
We weren’t really close anyway so it’s not like I’m losing a major friendship but I just feel bad for the school and slt as they now only have a week left of term and not enough teachers.
unprofessional of her to lead your school on and then just drop it last minute and strange of her to take the short term job, but I’m sure she had her reasons.
No need for you to apologise on her behalf. If someone says anything to you, say you did not expect her to be unprofessional.
but it’s not your job to apologise for her or feel bad over. Hopefully they will find someone soon.
 
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Definitely don’t apologise on her behalf. She’s behaved incredibly unprofessionally by dropping out of the permanent one and leaving that headteacher in the lurch trying to get a replacement for her. What a waste of an induction. Her actions are not your responsibility so I would stay out of it.

If she gets in touch with you going forward, as she’s not a close mate I’d be really blunt with her and say that frankly she put you in an awful position and that you thought it was unprofessional of her.

Enjoy the upcoming holidays!
 
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I’m just coming on here to ask some advice from any teachers. Looking through my son’s school books and the teacher has marked his work and written “this is nonsense”!! Is this normal ? I’m absolutely raging and she had the audacity to say at parents evening he lacks in confidence?! I mean confidence is something which is learnt throughout life
 
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I'd say not...but it's worth checking that it wasn't a supply teacher or something that day who marked the books. I can't imagine a class teacher writing a comment like that.

Trying to put it into a potential context, if I know a child has absolutely not tried on a piece of work and can do much better, I might write something like 'please redo this and show me your best effort' or something but this would have been followed up with a verbal chat with the child as well. I can't imagine ever writing that and not following it up, and like I said, would never do it if a child had tried their best, only if I knew they had put no effort in. I guess it's the balance between holding them accountable for trying hard and doing their best work vs knocking their confidence. It doesn't sound like 'this is nonsense' is a helpful comment though.
 
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I’m just coming on here to ask some advice from any teachers. Looking through my son’s school books and the teacher has marked his work and written “this is nonsense”!! Is this normal ? I’m absolutely raging and she had the audacity to say at parents evening he lacks in confidence?! I mean confidence is something which is learnt throughout life
I never mark without it being constructive. This is not a constructive comment by whoever marked it. If it’s a piece of work where it’s evident that it’s not up to the students usual standard then I would verbally have a word and suggest improvements to their work whilst highlighting what they have done well at the same time. Writing “this is nonsense” is awful for his confidence and offers little future learning. If a sentence he had written made no sense; there’s more professional ways of conveying that to a student, eg, this is unclear, can you clarify or give more detail into what you mean here?

i’d have a word with the school and question their marking.
 
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I never mark without it being constructive. This is not a constructive comment by whoever marked it. If it’s a piece of work where it’s evident that it’s not up to the students usual standard then I would verbally have a word and suggest improvements to their work whilst highlighting what they have done well at the same time. Writing “this is nonsense” is awful for his confidence and offers little future learning. If a sentence he had written made no sense; there’s more professional ways of conveying that to a student, eg, this is unclear, can you clarify or give more detail into what you mean here?

i’d have a word with the school and question their marking.
Yes I will thank you. He has mentioned this particular teachers name a couple of times so and so doesn't like me but I haven't really looked into it before as obviously you wouldn't expect a teacher to come across as a bully. He had another teacher for the same subject a few months prior and she would comment lovely ideas, so his work is not bad, and she provided as you've said constructive criticism and improvements
 
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Yes I will thank you. He has mentioned this particular teachers name a couple of times so and so doesn't like me but I haven't really looked into it before as obviously you wouldn't expect a teacher to come across as a bully. He had another teacher for the same subject a few months prior and she would comment lovely ideas, so his work is not bad, and she provided as you've said constructive criticism and improvements
Awww that’s a really crappy comment to write. I’d ask to meet the form leader or head depending on the staff structure of the school. No point meeting the teacher now assuming he’ll have a new one next year but it is worth flagging so there’s a trail if another accusation is made in the future.
you could check the marking policy beforehand and reference it as the teacher should be following that.
Good luck
 
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Last year was the year from hell. Primary trained and good at it but went into SEN leadership. Unit in a ms school.
Supposed to have chn who can manage time in mainstream. Instead directed to take chn who NEED an environment with SLT OT on site, sensory rooms, etc. I'm in an outbuilding with nowhere safe to put children in meltdown.
Children eating unsafe things, children smearing, children launching missiles, etc. Mass staff exodus. General feeling of inability to keep chn safe all year. LA not interested or able to change the situation.
Soldiered on all year, with increasing physical illnesses related to overwork and burnout.
I've been ill all through Summer and with a week to go I don't think I can do it.
Even if I walk in with resignation letter in hand.
Anyone else feeling like this?
 
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Last year was the year from hell. Primary trained and good at it but went into SEN leadership. Unit in a ms school.
Supposed to have chn who can manage time in mainstream. Instead directed to take chn who NEED an environment with SLT OT on site, sensory rooms, etc. I'm in an outbuilding with nowhere safe to put children in meltdown.
Children eating unsafe things, children smearing, children launching missiles, etc. Mass staff exodus. General feeling of inability to keep chn safe all year. LA not interested or able to change the situation.
Soldiered on all year, with increasing physical illnesses related to overwork and burnout.
I've been ill all through Summer and with a week to go I don't think I can do it.
Even if I walk in with resignation letter in hand.
Anyone else feeling like this?
Nothing is worth burn out. Been there, struggled through it and ultimately had a breakdown. Left teaching all together as my confidence was just in tatters.

It sounds like this is a bloody awful setting with no support, it’s not the job itself so I’d say get out before you hate the job. Start looking for another job and look after your health. It’s not worth struggling through.
 
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Last year was the year from hell. Primary trained and good at it but went into SEN leadership. Unit in a ms school.
Supposed to have chn who can manage time in mainstream. Instead directed to take chn who NEED an environment with SLT OT on site, sensory rooms, etc. I'm in an outbuilding with nowhere safe to put children in meltdown.
Children eating unsafe things, children smearing, children launching missiles, etc. Mass staff exodus. General feeling of inability to keep chn safe all year. LA not interested or able to change the situation.
Soldiered on all year, with increasing physical illnesses related to overwork and burnout.
I've been ill all through Summer and with a week to go I don't think I can do it.
Even if I walk in with resignation letter in hand.
Anyone else feeling like this?
A lot depends on your own financial situation but it sounds like this job isn't sustainable long term so you need to decide how soon you can get out of it. It may be that you need to stay there for a while and plan your exit at the same time - even planning this will make you feel better. If you're lucky you may be able to leave straight away. You're doing nothing wrong by leaving and prioritising your own health. Take care of yourself ❣
 
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Last year was the year from hell. Primary trained and good at it but went into SEN leadership. Unit in a ms school.
Supposed to have chn who can manage time in mainstream. Instead directed to take chn who NEED an environment with SLT OT on site, sensory rooms, etc. I'm in an outbuilding with nowhere safe to put children in meltdown.
Children eating unsafe things, children smearing, children launching missiles, etc. Mass staff exodus. General feeling of inability to keep chn safe all year. LA not interested or able to change the situation.
Soldiered on all year, with increasing physical illnesses related to overwork and burnout.
I've been ill all through Summer and with a week to go I don't think I can do it.
Even if I walk in with resignation letter in hand.
Anyone else feeling like this?
I left 13 yrs ago and taught around the world. Now I’m back in uk, I shall only do supply 3 days a week during the winter. At 65, I’m glad I’m out.
 
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Oh I’m sorry you had such a hard year, that sounds horrendous! Teaching is hard, and getting harder with a combination of expectations, increased children’s need and change in parenting styles. I agree with the posts above, it’s not worth the burnout and affect is has on your personal life. There are other schools and other jobs. Sending love ❤
 
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Last year was the year from hell. Primary trained and good at it but went into SEN leadership. Unit in a ms school.
Supposed to have chn who can manage time in mainstream. Instead directed to take chn who NEED an environment with SLT OT on site, sensory rooms, etc. I'm in an outbuilding with nowhere safe to put children in meltdown.
Children eating unsafe things, children smearing, children launching missiles, etc. Mass staff exodus. General feeling of inability to keep chn safe all year. LA not interested or able to change the situation.
Soldiered on all year, with increasing physical illnesses related to overwork and burnout.
I've been ill all through Summer and with a week to go I don't think I can do it.
Even if I walk in with resignation letter in hand.
Anyone else feeling like this?
Do you get sick pay? Perhaps you could go back and see what the first week is like and if it's as awful as you fear get signed off for as long as you can. Hand in your notice and look for other jobs whilst off. I did this in a previous awful job. They are not allowed to mention you being off sick when they fill out a reference so it won't go against you. Could you look into supply as a short term solution. Again tho is what I did and I have never looked back. Lots of work, never out of a job and much happier as I can pick and choose where I go and what School O work at. Sending you lots of hugs, no job is worth this feeling and putting up with what you have previously listed is not ok xx
 
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Hi all, this thread is quite dead but with world book day coming up I’m wondering what everyone else is dressing up as. I’m thinking of going with ‘Room on the broom’ and wearing a black dress and hat or going a little more casual and wearing a Spider-Man T-shirt with jeans. That day we’ve also got our writing workshop, swimming and then I’m out in a course in the afternoon so don’t want anything too over the top.
What’s everyone else dressing up as?
 
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Go with the casual - might as well make the most of being comfy! Dressing up isn't much my thing, but I'm going with The Tiger Who Came to Tea - either tiger print jeans or black leggings, orange jumper and I've got some tiger ears and paw slippers from Amazon. Might paint a little nose and whiskers...or not!
 
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