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Jenbean1992

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Someone commented saying ''You'll never truly understand a disabled person's experiences but you can help like Hannah is doing with language correction''

As I have said, both of my parents are disabled, so whilst it's true that I can't ever really understand what it's like to be disabled, neither can Hannah.

How come Hannah has the monopoly on what is abelist and what isn't? She's been caring for Shane for a few years.. I've been caring for my parents for over 20. I think I have enough understanding of disability to know that no disabled person gets offended if you compliment an able bodied person unless they are trying extremely hard to prove something..


Anyway, my DMs have been full of abuse and death threats towards myself and my parents. And I have no doubt that was Hannahs intention when she replied to me. She knows that any confrontation will send her fans to attack the person who disagrees with them. She's not stupid.
 
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I am so happy I found this thread. I honestly thought I was the only person flabbergasted at this 'couple'. All of the comments on their videos are overwhelmingly positive (minus a few). All along the lines of: "what a beautiful couple!" "shane is so handsome!" (or funny, or some combination of compliments directed at how great he is). Not many people are questioning the validity of the relationship at all. They constantly use Hannah's body for clickbait and views (and then she gets super angry and self-righteous when someone does calls that out), all while claiming they're promoting awareness about disability? How?!?!? Maybe in the beginning of their channel starting? I honestly haven't watched older videos, but now?? They make it seem like taking care of Shane's needs is all sunshine and rainbows... Nothing about how hard it is to provide that level of care without any help! Not a lot about the struggles he faces, or they both face as an inter-abled coupled! Hannah just sits there with a creepy smile on her face while she laughs at everything he says... and he's not even funny! Am I suppose to believe a decently attractive girl in her mid-twenties went out of her way to date a severely disabled guy (who's getting progressively worse), and has no qualms about the level of care he needs (except to rope in her poor mother to assist on occasion)! The reason for this, we're supposed to believe, is because he has that great of a personality? Not from the videos I've seen! He constantly TRIES to be funny, he's extremely rude, narcissistic, makes little jabs at her, and never says please or thank you for anything! And, she also claims she finds him super sexy and they can be physically intimate? Come on! I'm sorry, but I don't know any woman who would find him attractive in any way. They act like he's just a 'guy in a wheelchair'. He's not... He can't do anything for himself and has a frail, deformed body. I don't even think he'll have a normal life span since he's already so weak now. His legs are bent in when he's laying down so how can she possibly do anything with him involving intercourse?? Not to mention his body being extremely fragile, so she has to be very careful of how she handles him. The latest video about the 2 pregnancy scares.... I highly doubt they are able to conceive the natural way, and why would anyone in their situation want to bring children up in the first place? He can't do anything required for a child... But to highlight how they had TWO pregnancy scares, so they can remind us all they're having sex, and they can get pregnant as easily as any other couple off birth control... This has to be to cater to his ego, and project the narrative he's just like any other normal guy...
 
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SmallWonder

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There is nothing sadder in terms of fandom than a fan buying and sending gifts to a Youtuber that they most likely will never meet or have as a real friend. I read that this type of friendship is called a "parasocial friendship"- a one sided friendship with a media figure. The fans are just as sad as teen girls sobbing hysterically at a concert for a teen heartthrob. It's fine to think an actor/actress is hot and admire their work, but when these fans idolize Youtubers of all people, it comes off as desperate and frenzied cult-like devotion of misplaced affection. What a world we live in, where teachers have to live in their cars, professions of all types have to refinance their homes or cut costs at every corner and these Youtuber people live the high life devoid of any intelligence, morals or purpose.
 
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zerebun

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Hey guys, i've been watching these two for a while as a genuine fan. I just accepted their relationship at first and didn't even think about their sex life until they started constantly going on about it and making soft core porn-esque videos.

The most recent video of her in a bikini made me REALLY uncomfortable and prompted me to read the threads here. Why is he always parading her about? Making her jump in a bikini? I'm all for wearing what you want, but why do they need to film full body bikini intros to their videos when they are meant to be family friendly? Most people only vlog in their bikinis from when they're actually at the beach, in a pool etc

I've been noticing a lot of red flags with Shane's behaviour. Now i see a lot of myself in Hannah and i've been with guys who act like Shane. I also grew up shy with little friends. I developed really early and was sexualised by men and classmates at a very young age. This made me super hesitant about sex and stuff. I ended up dating guys who just aren't attractive despite being conveniently attractive myself because i just didn't trust attractive guys and starting a sexual relationship with one was just something i wouldn't consider.

When you date someone considerably less attractive than you. They try and knock your confidence down either subconsciously or on purpose, criticise your weight, personality etc, because that's the only way they can keep you in the relationship. Shane acts like my exes in this way. He also constantly bigs himself up. Tries to make Hannah LUCKY for getting a guy like him.

Sorry for the blogpost but i do think Hannah loves him and wasn't in it for the money at first. It's so weird that she actively seeked out a man as small and dependent as him. I think it's just so she has more physical control than him.
 
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raelle

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They're very impulsive and self centered.
I think Shane is far more sheltered and selfish then the thinks. Shane shouldn't feel like a burden, I think he's so used to having everything done for him he feels fully entitled to Hannah wanting to do absolutely everything. He expects everyone to be a caregiver. IMO if you're putting as much or more energy into caring for someone else as you are for yourself (unless it's your child) then that's not healthy. That's codependency. Her identity revolves around being an activist for interabled couples and being Shane's spouse/caregiver. Shane's life revolves around Hannah because they never talk about anything else, it circles back to Shane and how they're trying to normalize that they live differently. Normalize it by treating it as if it's normal instead of another video about the non-sex you guys have. They're co-dependent.

Of course he thinks it's okay travel across state lines during a global pandemic like literally everyone else who is enough of an asshole to vacation during covid. He's also delusional enough to think "the only part of parenthood he can't do is pick his kid up from the floor," he was adamant he could do "literally everything else," which just infuriated me because has he met a kid? Experienced what it's like to hold a screaming baby who has been crying for 30 minutes for absolutely no decipherable reason? The tantrum of a 2 year old? A 4 year old who runs across a parking lot because kids don't listen and do dumb shit? Has he babysat, if you can't babysit why would you try to argue you can parent a child. If you can't physically engage with a baby/toddler/small child that kid is literally not going to survive. He's selfish enough to not give a shit and have a kid anyway because he expects Hannah to do 100% of the things he wants and needs. You need more than love and motivational words to take care of a child and if you can't be left alone with your own baby for 24 hours you have no business fathering a child. If Hannah was gone for a weekend Shane wouldn't be able to feed, clothe, or bath himself let alone keep a small child alive, one he chose to be responsible for but yet is unable to care for. That's so selfish I can't even comprehend it. Babies don't care if you have a nice little speech or dumb joke.

He sees nothing wrong with the fact that in order for Hannah to have a baby they're hiring someone to temporarily care for Shane to give her a break.

Can you get more self absorbed? What makes them think they won't always need a care giver or her mom to help them? It's okay to need help but if you can't function independently in your adult life and you make more choices that make you more reliant on other people to get what you want you're selfish. A baby is a want, it's not a need.

She's bringing in her mother to help her and saying that's normal. Where are the boundaries, it is okay to have boundaries and not expect everyone you're close to to be a caregiver, who would want their mother in law doing their personal care like bathing or ass wiping. It's normal for family to be together after a baby, it's not normal for you to need a caretaker for your husband and your mom for you and the baby because you chose to have a kid with someone who can't take care of YOU when you're pregnant/postpartum or equally participate in meeting your child's basic needs for survival. Shane has no appreciation or respect for Hannah or what she does, she's Taxi, Chef, Caregiver, Wife, Maid, and Mother.

The kicker is she's worried about THROWING UP. Girl be worried about literally tearing from your vagina to your asshole okay. How dumb can you get that throwing up is the worst case scenario.
 
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takethatbackx

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the whole only fans/porn/sex worker thing is incredibly sad. this new wave feminism has basically pushed women backwards. "sex work is EMPOWERING!!" uhm, no, it's not. women getting equal pay and being treated at work equally is empowering. women actually being heard for their medical issues and not being turned away because "it's just in their head/anxiety" is empowering. getting a degree is empowering.

sex is natural, beautiful and euphoric between 2 people who love each other and a woman's body is gorgeous, sexy and a work of art. men defile it tho, especially with their porn. porn has been proven to damage a man's brain. they need harder stuff to get off to and most turn pedophilic. they view women as just a fleshlight and want to try all this sick paraphilic degrading porn stuff on women. men do not care tho. they have no empathy. they think nothing of those porn actresses and they probably even hate "those whores" including those who they just hook up with irl.

modern dating is horrific. there's no romance, no courting, no sensuality, no respect from men. people just basically sleep with one another with no emotions, feelings, love, passion. it's so incredibly sad and soulless.
 
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One thing I don't get is why people send shit to them, like who in their right mind is shopping and is like Yep, I'm going to get his and send it to Shane and Hannah.....sadddd people like get some friends. And to send them birthday and Christmas and wedding presents !!! If you have disposable income give it to a real charily. Pathetic
 
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SmallWonder

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This very twitter interaction sums up how temperamental and hot headed Hannah is. Somebody could have complimented her sweater and she'd spin it into child trafficking and how some people can't put a sweater on themselves, there's no winning with her. I also hate her passive aggressive use of emojis in that interaction. I realize it must have been very disillusioning and shocking to have this interaction, but now you are freed of liking a couple that doesn't deserve your thoughts or kindness.
 
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raelle

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I realize that some people see Only Fans as empowering, but there are so many other ways for women to earn extra income without exploiting their beauty and bodies.
not to go way off topic here but

yeah if giving men your photos was empowering it wouldn’t have the capacity to be used as leverage where in the future you could lose your job or those same pictures could be used as black mail. If it was so empowering men would be doing it too and there’s a reason why they aren’t and don’t need to.

Men purchasing access to you even if they’re “just” looking and jerking off isn’t empowering; they’re offering you financial compensation to objectify you, as if the presence of money is supposed to offset that behavior, that they think you have a purchase price, and that they think they have a right to buy what you wouldn’t give freely to begin with. That’s not empowering and I’m so sick of hearing that it is by people who are desperate to be woke and never commit wrong think.

By selling this lie that it’s empowering the only people who benefit are the men who created this market to begin with. We’ve normalized this bullshit where it’s now appropriate for men to even joke that they like to see you naked and they’d pay to do it, as if that shouldn’t be automatically dismissed as creepy disrespectful and predatory behavior. The greatest thing to happen to human trafficking and the porn industry is the lie that putting a price tag on your body is girlboss shit, that disagreeing is body shaming...that’s laughable.

No girl plans to be spank bank material when she hits 18, no parent raises their daughter to use her body to make money off of men (that would be child abuse) no parent proudly announces that’s their daughters future career. It’s not sex shaming women to say this, in reality the shame should lie with men who think we should be for sale on any level to begin with. Women do this out of a desperation for money and a lack of other options. That’s not empowering. That’s the subjugation of women being sold to you under the guise of this is what you want. Of fucking course the men who would buy you want you think it’s a great idea.
 
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SmallWonder

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Their latest video is Hannah reading poems that Shane wrote to her during the early stages of dating. I don't trust men who write flowery poems or do anything over the top grand gestures of affection early on, it strikes me as desperate and a form of narcissistic love bombing.
 
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KanyeSouth99

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I’m sure there are lots of people who watch their videos but are hearing impaired and can’t really understand what’s going on. Everyone should complain to them about not captioning ALL of their videos since they say they are all inclusive. They are obviously concerned with quantity, putting out as many videos as possibly instead of the quality of their content and making sure people of all disabilities can enjoy them. I’m not hearing impaired, but I’m an asshole haha at least make them work for their money

Keep an eye out for this person’s comment. Let’s see how long it lasts or if Hannah responds to it
 

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Neonmoon

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So I have wanted to comment this for a while, I am in an "inter-abled" relationship and I have a form of MD different to Shane but essentially muscle wasting but mine is slow progressing, I am married and we are about to try for IVF PGD to eliminate the chances of our children having the same condition.
At the moment I am using a wheelchair everyday, sometimes I need help with personal care - my husband does very little for me and I rely on carers etc there is no way I would allow my husband to look after the way Hannah does for Shane, nor my family for that matter.

My husband knows WHEN I get to the stage where I cannot do anything for myself (Shane's level of care) I would want him to seek happiness elsewhere.

From a point of view with someone with the same category of disability - Honestly? I agree with pretty much all of you in the sense that the relationship is weird I cannot even bring myself to watch them anymore.
 
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GGdropout

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Wow I wish he was still this open about the struggles of disability now. Now it's like.. what? disability? Sorry don't know her. I use this chair for fun? ^_^
 
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Clara88

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Here’s another self righteous response posted on IG:
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Hannah is appallingly self-righteous about people commenting on her body, given that she allows her husband to regularly and blatantly clickbait her cleavage and butt for views. There is something very wrong with her; she seems incapable of self-awareness.

Seems like deep down she may be uncomfortable with using her body as clickbait but she is unable to introspect so she just explodes on random people who trigger that insecurity.
 
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They're very insecure about their relationship. Low self-esteem depends on external validation and high self-esteem is fueled by internal strength. Everything they do is for attention. Everything they say is an attempt to validate their relationship. If their relationship were so strong, they would not feel the need to:
1. Have video after video explaining why their relationship works, is strong, is real...etc.
2. Purposefully dress Hannah in revealing outfits (Who needs to wear a sports bra while doing YMCA??)
3. Undress Shane...and show him naked on the toilet...
4. Make sexually suggestive titles/videos/Instagram posts/ "jokes"
5. They also make videos that criticize other YT-ers. They try to present themselves as non-judgmental, but making videos criticizing everything that "other people" do isn't being non-judgmental.

They also constantly make videos suggesting, "...but not really suggesting..." that people buy things for them, create fundraisers, and/or buy their extra content so they can $$$ get more $$$.

The OF "jokes" are really disgusting. They've been trying to build their channel toward this...They're hoping people will support them and essentially give them permission to create an OF because that's where they would get most of their money.

Shane went from working on LAMN and really making a positive difference in people's lives. It's such a horrific shame that they're inching closer and closer to contributing to the dark, exploitative part of online rather than creating better, positive content.

I can't stand them. I wish they would hurry up and divorce and be done with this BS.
 
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Clara88

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Someone on their latest video commented "I was a caregiver for 18 years and there is burnout."

Let's guess which triggered half of S&G wrote the following response: "Hey Sheri! Thanks for sharing your perspective! I hope you'll also take our perspective and the perspectives of hundreds of other interabled couples into account."

Let's go ahead and rephrase Hannah's response for honesty's sake: "Hey Sheri! I don't get burnt out because I'm a repressed weirdo with no social skills or emotional intelligence and this relationship is my entire life! Eventually I'll burn out because I don't tend to my own needs at all. I'm just out of college and have only done this for a couple years full-time but I DEFINITELY know better than someone who's done it for 18 years! In fact, I know everything except who I really am or could be outside of my codependent relationship. Yours in passive aggressiveness and road rage, Hannah"

Also someone asked if Hannah ever goes out and does things on her own... she defensively was like "in college I was gone for 8+ hours most days." Yeah Hannah, but you haven't been in college for over a year now (which mandated that you leave the home) and you appear to not leave the house anymore, even before Covid. A pilates class once a week hardly counts for much.

I wonder if Hannah realizes that being super defensive about criticisms people have just make the criticisms seem more valid.
 
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Clara88

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I'm here because I just feel so disappointed right now. I've been a long time viewer and fan of theirs. I had noticed that they seem to shut down everyone that doesn't agree completely with them and so I commented on Hannahs Instagram today and she responded..
Since then I'm being attacked left right and centre by their fans.
I've read up here and honestly... I now just don't think they're good people at all. They hate anyone who disagrees with their point of view.. Its disheartening as I've been such a supporter of theirs.
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Why is she LYING about not exercising???? She has said that she took pilates class/does pilates in the past. In that basement video she talked about going downstairs to do a stretching class. When she told Shane it was a stretching class he was like "oh, that's it?" as if she usually does more. Anyway, stretching is exercise!!

She is so goddamned weird. So she fishes for compliments about her body by showing it off any chance she gets but gets seriously triggered whenever anyone mentions exercise. I remember her flipping out when someone said that she was too curvy to wear a bikini once. She is so exhausting; Meredith is a saint for being her only friend and putting up with her. Hannah is so obnoxious with no self-awareness.

SmallWonder is totally right that Hannah acts like this because her identity is completely enmeshed with Shane. She even had to bring up how Shane's "healthy" within this dialogue even though it wasn't about him. Btw if you know for a fact that Coronavirus will kill you if you get it and you're only in your late 20s then you're not healthy. Sorry Hannah, and I recommend to therapy to stop being so delusional and co-dependent.
 
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I don’t think they are frauds. I think there’s definitely something wrong with them but a fake relationship that requires that much work seems far fetched. If she was a gold digger a sugar daddy would be easier. He had his book before but I’m sure majority of the money came from them as a pair on YouTube. I think she saw his first video thought what a strong person and funny ( I think he was like able in the interview with rainn Wilson) and it snowballed from there. I think a lot of it has to do with her past. I think that because that was my case. I was with a quadriplegic and deep down the reason why was because I was abused and sexually assaulted from an ex. He couldn’t hurt me so I thought he was a perfect choice. Sorry for tmi but the point being your subconscious is very strong and the brains ability to protect ourselves works in odd ways. Now I think she’s in too deep. Can u imagine if she tried to leave him what the fans would do? That one girl got death threats from our thread for a mere disagreement. It be a A witch trial for her. Maybe I project to much onto her and often give her a pass. But I honestly think it’s not fake and something darker is going on in the background. I think when someone laughs like she does at everything and seems unhealthy happy it’s probably pretty opposite. The camera turns off and she’s depressed AF. I think Shane’s wish was a pretty able bodied blonde but he may come to regret that as she self destructs. My only hope is because Liz is around them both she will see the signs and speak up. They both lose in the situation. Now that could be tomorrow or 2 kids later. I hope it’s sooner before kids. They will be the innocent victims. Also I remember that shot he got to extend his life was after they were together. Not to be horribly morbid but do u think maybe she also thought he wasn’t going to live very long?
 
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I would throw it back on her. Send her screenshots and let her know how out of control her fans get. She’s all about ableism stance let’s see how good she is on online bullying. If that was my channel I wouldn’t stand for that shit for one second. She should remove ppl like that. I’m very sorry you are going through this. There is nothing wrong with having a difference of opinion and voicing it. Like Jenny said screenshots and report ppl. It’s completely unacceptable to send death threats serious or not.
Hobeatly if anyone knows anything about the subject matter it would be you! You have a life time of experience with having both disabled parents. She’s got what a few years of it? Not to mention what if you made that comment and you were disabled yourself! She would of looked even more stupid. She’s very quick to react without having all the info. Don’t let the noise get to you. Those ppl are the definition of ignorance is bliss.
 
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raelle

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Hannah has people constantly throwing her a party for being up to her eyeballs in adult diapers and having to supervise Shane 24/7. The moments when Shane is bossing her around are hard to watch. She literally has do everything his body cannot, it's more than just caregiving. I skimmed that video and he bossed her around about fixing the exact position of his head how many times and complained when he was floating and when he was lopsided and told her to swim to the other end of the pool and wouldn't take no for an answer. He literally expects her to be at his beck and call for whatever he wants from her. Carry me, adjust me, banter, amuse. I can't even imagine how exhausting it would be to have to manage every single aspect of someones care but also have to do literally everything else they demand 24/7 while being responsible for maintaining a house, having a dog, and being the financial provider. He didn't even have the muscle strength to not bite his own tongue. It's like she probably wouldn't even know what to do if she didn't have her time and energy focused on being told what to do by Shane all the time. She'd have to hire a babysitter if she wanted time to herself or if she wanted to go sit 10 feet apart somewhere to visit a friend. It's just staggering. Her entire day is consumed by being available and responding to Shane's every want. What does he have to offer her in return? Praise?

Still can't get over their dynamic. The way they repeat each others words back, the constant prompting each other like it's an interview... they speak to each other in the cheery encouraging everything is rainbows way preschool teachers and parents speak to their children who are still acquiring language.

Also should Shane even be in a pool if accidentally aspirating water could kill him? She has to hold and supervise him like an infant so he doesn't drown. A bikini isn't really practical when you're doing that even if you weren't filming. When I've had to supervise little kids in the pool the last thing I want is to wear a bikini when I'm carrying somebody because god knows bikinis aren't made to be functional and who wants a wardrobe malfunction. And she's over there juggling Shane and a camera.
 
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