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TheWitchIsBack

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I can’t get over that these children are falling through the cracks of society because their own mother is a fucking idiot who refuses to school them or have them seen by a doctor. What an absolute travesty that we allow home schooling without any license or local authority oversight - teachers need to be qualified to degree level and yet somehow this perpetual victim with about as much intelligence as a common kitchen sponge is somehow responsible for educating three children and will no doubt create another generation who will be state reliant and refuse to do an honest days work.
 
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LMG

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I’d like to know how she’s walking 9-10 miles a day for the last 2 weeks without her chronic illness getting in the way 🤔
 
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TheWitchIsBack

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As harsh as it sounds she’s not doing enough.

She’s failing as a parent by pushing all her own traumas and insecurities onto her own children by refusing to take them into mainstream schooling on the off chance they’d be bullied like she was.

She claims to have multiple chronic health conditions but does nothing to improve them or reduce the risk factors that will exacerbate them - she constantly beats the drum about weight not being an indicator of health and she’s absolutely right but when she has a pain condition that will be exacerbated by her weight she could improve her health and mobility by reducing her weight.

She makes her life infinitely more difficult by choosing to “home school” - again, with these chronic health conditions how is she able to provide consistent school work with a condition that can at times leave her bed bound?

She moans constantly about money and has had significant debt issues in the past but pisses her money up the wall and neither person in the household works so she’ll be on PIP, the husband will be on carers allowance and no doubt she’s pursuing a diagnosis of autism for one or more of the children to generate another income stream for the household.

She would have a much healthier (in every sense of the word) life if her children attended school, her husband gained employment and she looked after herself better and did some of the blog work she obviously enjoys.

They are leeches breeding a new generation of leeches to take over when they reach adulthood as they’ll have a poor education, no social skills and no boundaries from a lifetime of being able to do what they want at home to give their moronic parents an easy life.

They frustrate the life out of me… for someone who’s spent years in therapy she has so little self-awareness and understanding of the wider world and is clearly still very much is of the opinion she’s a victim and the rest of the world need to pander to her. They are a drain on society.
 
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Maggie21

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£1000s to spend on Disney trips but doesn’t have £75 to pay for her car to be recovered….
 
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Mrspowell

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I’m a bit of a sensible sally and as much as I can see the pull of going to Disney and giving your kids 3 weeks of incredible memories I really couldn’t spend that money If we didn’t own a house or have some future stability for our children. If they have got cash from somewhere and it’s not on credit (could they even get credit cards for that amount?!) that would be enough for a house deposit
 
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AliceInWanderLost

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in her Disney Q&A responses, she says that she is planning an adult-only trip to Disney, which her therapist fully supports as a way for her to "fully release her inner child", able to enjoy Disney carefree without having to parent her own kids and deal with their meltdowns and arguments etc - yet the main things she lists as wanting to do in her child-free trip to Disney is...drink in adult-only bars and drink grog at universal. surely a trip focused predominantly on drinking alcohol doesn't fit with healing her "inner child"?! sounds far more like an excuse to justify another expensive trip to Disney under the guise of it being a necessary part of therapy. 🙄
 
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TheWitchIsBack

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Honestly this woman is on another planet... Always thinking she's special and that she couldn't possibly overcome any of her struggles with self reflection and perseverance. Oh no, embracing her inner child is the only feasible way! I think a lot of parents don't always enjoy playing with their kids or find it comes naturally to them, she's not special. Also, most people relax on holiday and are able to enjoy themselves without the trappings of daily life, is that not the whole point?! I guarantee when those kids are older they'll resent her for preparing them so poorly for life.
I don’t enjoy playing with my youngest as it’s all dolls and barbies - it’s a no from me! Know what I do to counteract that? Send her to school so she’s got a friendship circle where she can have regular friends over to play or go to after school clubs that fulfil her. She’s got a wide circle of friends in school, from her clubs and even living in the street so she’s never short of people to play with.

Then I spend time reading with her, baking, going swimming, going nature or beach walks collecting shells and pine cones etc.

Does she miss out cause I don’t want to act like a Barbie? No she doesn’t. Honestly this woman is a fucking pathetic big baby, get over yourself Hayley… stop being a fucking victim all your life and parent your children properly instead. If you’re that upset about your shite traumatic childhood why aren’t you striving for the best possibly outcome for your own children with an age appropriate education and socialisation instead of keeping them years behind academically while your household revolves round you and your myriad of problems.
 
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Lurkiemurkie

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Oh look luckily her flare ups didn't happen when she wanted a night out again and she was able to dance all night long. How fortunate.

I really must get myself one of these illnesses which respect when you want to do fun things for yourself and never affect those.
 
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Lurkiemurkie

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Has no me time - how many times has she been out to the cinema, nails, dancing, concerts recently? Ok so not necessarily in the house but come on!

Also there are 2 parents so nothing to stop one of them taking the children out while the other one cleans or whatever. Try being a single parent with actually diagnosed ND children
 
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Crazies

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Good Lord how many conditions can one family have?! Has she mentioned the coordination issue before? Every week there is something new for Dr. Hayley to diagnose 🤣 I don’t get major cleanliness vibes from her, so no doubt that drink dispenser will get absolutely grim in no time, kids will probably spill it in the fridge too. Gross.
 
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AliceInWanderLost

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I can't believe she would risk taking her trans kid to Florida given the circumstances. "But we paid a lot for it and we won't go back after"

Poor kid
yeah, exactly this! announcing that her and her husband discussed thr holiday and whether they felt it would be a good idea/safe to take their trans daughter to such a trabsphobic state....but hayley LOVES Disney and doesn't want to miss out, plus they've paid already - all this trans rights and trans awareness bullshit she spews is quite clearly just for content, or there is no way she wouldn't be cancelling her holiday, solely out of principle! but nope, they're still going ot Florida - justified by "but we won't be going back again!" ah, that's totally okay then! blatant hypocrisy and dismissing the LGBTQ rights she is usually so vocal and outspoken about is all totally acceptable for the sake of wearing glittery mickey ears and taking selfies with teens dressed as cartoon animals, embracing her inner child to heal her trauma. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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AliceInWanderLost

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Her latest rant omg! Yes it would take weeks to sort out the house, but how can you say you don’t have the time?? Stop scrolling Instagram looking at other people’s perfect houses, which makes you feel down, and spend that time sorting out your own house!
so keeping on top of the house is problematic because her kids are there 24/7, and she struggles to meet their additional needs - although she's saying they are neurodivergent as though it's a fact when I'm pretty sure they are still waiting for an assessment - combined with the fact that the kids have no sleep routine and don't go. to bed til 3 or 4am - how does she not realise that all these issues could be solved - or certainly improved - by sending her kids to school?! they wouldn't be in the house 24/7, she wouldn't feel overwhelmed being responsible for their education - or lack of, as it currently stands - she'd have time to organise the house while the kids were at school, plus they would have far more of a routine and structure in their lives, which would likely improve their sleep routine, and may even help with their behaviour, as the violence etc may be due to boredom as a result of them being dumped in front of their screens all day and left to entertain themselves while Hayley lounges around in bed, with nothing to learn or stimulate their brains or encourage them to concentrate etc. plus they would actually be getting a decent education, which would only be a benefit to them! problem solved! 👌🏻🙄
 
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AliceInWanderLost

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Playing on her self Autism diagnosis to get the fee waived 😧
That really fucked me off, because she doesn't HAVE a autism diagnosis! she suspects she has ASD/ADHD, which is not the same at all, and the way she throws around "being neurodivergant" to get her own way and manipulate people into waiving fees is gross. she is fully exploiting a diagnosis she doesn't even have! and as for not having the money to pay the fee - bullshit. the fact she has paid for two 4 week Disney holidays over the past year shows she COULD afford all the things she complains she can't, it's simply that she chooses to prioritise Disney over bills and car repairs etc. it's entirely HER choice, and all the these occasions where she mentions her or one of the kid's ASD - when none of the family have a diagnosis - either to complain about a lack of inclusivity to try and get refunds or freebies, or to manipulate people to allow her to not have to pay for stuff is truly shameful. 😡
 
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AliceInWanderLost

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She’s a nasty one isn’t she? That rant at a family member she’s not seen for ten years was viscous. I cannot stand her. Hayley thinks any opinion other than ones that match her own lived experience aren’t valid, which is just about the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
the AUDACITY that a family member dare to share an opinion with Hayley that doesn't reflect her own! how DARE they from opinions based on mere THOUGHTS! 🙄

honestly, she isn't doing Piper any favours, bringing her up in a bubble totally isolated from the world and other kids and differing opinions. because as much as nobody deserves to be bullied or to have to deal with transphobic comments etc, the state of the world means that these opinions Hayley shields Piper from, by not even allowing family members to express opinions different to her own in a respectful manner isn't helping her, or any of the kids who she seems to expect to grow up as activists, yet she is raising them in a sheltered existence where they aren't aware that many people have beliefs that totally contrast with their mother's!

and I'm not in any way suggesting that Piper should be placed in situations where she is bullied or exposed to hate, but there is no reason people can't share their own opinions, in a respectful manner, which differ from Hayley's own! it doesn't mean that other people's opinions aren't valid, simply because they don't reflect the opinions of Hayley McLean! it's incredibly problematic that she is raising her kids ot believe that THEIR opinions are correct, and that everyone else is wrong, and anyone with the AUDACITY to have an opposing opinion should immediately be shut down, dismissed or ranted about, because if that's how the kids are taught to react to differing opinions, it's likely to cause them a lot of problems as they grow older - especially if the comments about one of the kids showing violent and aggressive behaviour is true. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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Lurkiemurkie

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Id absolutely love to know what policy she has signed up for with the RAC that gives £155 cashback! Seriously!

Also if you are struggling with the cost of your holiday coming up then stop buying new clothes.
 
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AliceInWanderLost

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That is a ridiculous amount of sugar, quite disgusting really! Diabetes is surely knocking at her door, if not, why the hell not?!!
as much as she refuses to allow any medical professional to ever mention her weight and is adamant it is entirely unrelated to her health issues, even taking those numbers out of the equation, even altering the food she eats on a regular basis could have a huge impact on all her health complaints - even if her weight is, as she claims, entirely unrelated to her intake. that entire Walmart order was all sugar and carbe and more sugar - with five bananas between them. surely she must realise that fuelling her body on sugar and foods that lack nutrition and vitamins etc would impact her levels of energy, her chronic pain etc - i don't get how she epdns her time at home barely managing to drag herself out of bed, or managing to pop out for a few hours and then having ot spend the next few days in bed, yet a
when she is at Disney she is able to walk around for days with no resting, but her body getting all the energy it needs from cookies and donuts and candy isn't going to help her physical health or help her feel better mentally, when her body is constantly going thru sugar crashes. she focuses a lot on her weight as a way to justify the stigma she supposedly faces from medical professionals, so now refuses to be weighed - but surely her actual diet and the foods she eats has been raised, given her long list of health issues, which she must be ignoring, when still complaining about health issues that would likely improve if she took the advice of GPS and medical professionals etc.

it's the same with the kids - sure, they may have behavioural issues, although I think much of it would be helped if their lives had more structure and rotuien and they weren't allowed to trash the house, stay up til 3am and spent days watching movies because Hayely has "cancelled" school - but the food they eat will also play a role in their behaviour and mood and expecting children to grow up healthy when she is fuelling them almost entirely on sugary snacks and then wondering why they struggle or behave badly or won't sleep or whatever - the conclusions seems very logical if you simply join the dots. I'm not saying the kids should never be allowed sweets or cookies, but there is a difference between giving them treats as snacks and actually feeding them pure sugar for every meal! 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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AliceInWanderLost

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my guess would be she thinks diagnosis =
Oh, she'll totally be in it for both the same of content, and for the money she thinks she'll get out of a diagnosis for both her and all the kids, hoping to benefit financially. good luck with that Hayley, as DWP are predominantly rejecting PIP applications - plus it is a long process with huge, lengthy forms to complete, which she will struggle with if she doesn't have the energy to make a simple phone call from her bed, especially if she has three or four to get through! plus I doubt she would have the patience to wait up to a year for the outcome and decision to be made, because there is such a backlog, but based on her rage about waiting times for ADHD assessments, it will simply be used as content as a opportunity to rant about waiting lists and delays, and even more content will be made when she receives outcomes that tell her that none of them are going to be awarded PIP payments, with rants about discrimination and unfairness and hidden disabilities. 🙄🙄

the irony of the situation is that whether any of the kids have ADHD or ASD, their unmanageable behaviours, in terms of anger, poor fine motor skills and their wild sleeping patterns would likely be improved by attending school - routine, structure and, depending on the school and services available, potential intervention if the kids are truly struggling in certain areas - even encouraging Tyne to use a pen would likely help with his fine motor skills, instead of allowing him to play video games all day! and as for the rage and violent behaviour, i wonder if she has considered that it is the way her child is expressing frustration, living a life with very little social interaction with other kids except his siblings, very limited education thus no real opportunities to learn or challenge him etc, presumably being very bored, constantly staring at a screen instead of being encouraged to concentrate or read or learn. there is that whole things about kids misbehaving in class simply because the work is too easy for them and they are bored etc - her kids likely are far more intelligent than she gives them credit for and express themselves through anger, because they feel they can't change their situation. i genuinely think that allowing them to go to school, give their lives a degree of routine and structure and allow them to interact with other kids and actually give them a chance to use their brains, concentrate and benefit the kids themselves and resolve so many of the behaviours Hayley has labelled as problematic. school is an environment where all three kids would likely thrive yet Hayley is far too selfish to stop the total lack of home ed, simply on the basis that SHE didn't like school, thus has decided to prevent her kids from experiencing it for themselves on the assumption that they won't like it either. 🙄🙄
 
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gummy-bear

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She is the most woe is me, self pitying Munchausens case I’ve ever come across. I am also a scouser (with a stronger accent than her), lived in London and Manchester for years and never had a problem with anyone treating me differently because of the way I speak. She’s just the type that will latch onto anything and spiral it into a massive deal centred around her.
 
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The sense of entitlement with Tyne's driving experience is unreal! The audacity of them letting adults go ahead of her son! They had to wait in the rain for his turn! It wasn't suitable for Autistic kids! The drive was really short!
None of this was her fault! Did she not think to read up on what the experience involved? Or to check the weather forecast & take umbrellas/waterproof coats? And did they really need to drag the 2 younger kids along?!
 
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instasham13

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I've said this on the Brummy Mummy thread but honestly adults who are obsessed with Disney freak me out so much. I have no tolerance for it. 🤣🤣🤣


Also myself and partner earn about 70k between us and we can't afford Disney. 🙃
 
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