Sophie Payne

[PepsiCherry]

I've showed my best mate her story over the years as she's a Consultant Obstetrician. She was actually shocked they got pregnant as Sophie is morbidly obese like she is very very big. But my mate knew Sophie would have a lot of complications at her size.

How horrific to go against the odds and get pregnant to then have to have an emergency cat 1 section and then to not even get to hold her baby..

The picture of Sophie facetiming the baby has hurt me so much. All my love to them. Horrific and at this time of year too.

 

[DizDog32]

Life is just so unfair sometimes. Going through infertility and loss is hard enough to deal with, but then being faced with such uncertainty now. My heart really goes out to them, and hope they can all be together as a family soon. I know her size and the implications of that will be mentioned on here but for me all that matters now is she must be a very scared mum who just wants to be with her so longed for baby

 

[PepsiCherry]

Life is just so unfair sometimes. Going through infertility and loss is hard enough to deal with, but then being faced with such uncertainty now. My heart really goes out to them, and hope they can all be together as a family soon. I know her size and the implications of that will be mentioned on here but for me all that matters now is she must be a very scared mum who just wants to be with her so longed for baby

So horrible to go through and at Christmas time. Horrible

 

[PandaPop20]

We don’t know that the complications were due to her weight, I think it’s unfair to presume. I have a high BMI and my pregnancies and births were no more complicated than my friends who had lower BMI’s. It’s so sad what they are going through, I wish them all the best.

 

[Ilando]

We don’t know that the complications were due to her weight, I think it’s unfair to presume. I have a high BMI and my pregnancies and births were no more complicated than my friends who had lower BMI’s. It’s so sad what they are going through, I wish them all the best.

Exactly this- she is a new mother who is facing the greatest challenge of her life. She deserves nothing but compassion

 

[Gee_whip]

Really feel for her and hope and prayer her little baby is ok. My heart sank reading her post. My son needed oxygen at birth (quite common with a c section birth and especially after a long labour if there’s a chance of infection) but he recovered quickly and we were out of the hospital within a week. I disagree with her getting to the size she is without doing something about it, but I think it’s safe to say the reality of parenting is hitting and it’s not all picture perfect Insta life and I feel for her and her husband. Sending her and baby boy love, I wouldn’t wish that on anybody xx

 

[Adcs813]

Category 1, it means it’s been done because there is a risk that mother and/or baby could die! That’s what I was told after mine anyways.

Cat 1 is where they aim to deliver baby within 15 mins..usually putting the mother under general anaesthetic as there is no time for a spinal block.

A cat 1 is usually ordered when baby's heart rate has dropped significantly and is showing signs of seriously struggling.

 

[Puddypants]

I do really feel for Sophie and Adam having such a poorly newborn.I think the name they have chosen is awful though.I think weird names should be used for middle names,so the parents can call the child by the weird name but when said child is an adult they can go by a more usual name

 

[flutternutter]

I do really feel for Sophie and Adam having such a poorly newborn.I think the name they have chosen is awful though.I think weird names should be used for middle names,so the parents can call the child by the weird name but when said child is an adult they can go by a more usual name

Its awful isnt it

 

[Peachylite]

While it is absolutely devastating for them to be going through this awfulness when they should be enjoying the newborn bubble, it very hard to deny the fact that her weight is probably a major factor in why her pregnancy ended with an emergency c-section, and now before anyone jumps down my throat, I’m not saying that her weight is the reason for her babies current condition, but the fact she was induced before even reaching full term is highly likely going to be due to her weight, that induction is probably a factor in why it ended up in a c-section, as her body was under intense stress and her weight would have affected all of that.
I just think that when someone of significant size and a significant Instagram presence should use that platform when they get pregnant to how everyone that as much as it’s a blessing pregnancy comes with issues, whether that be purely down to their weight. Instead of this false narrative that everything is all perfect and all the smoke and daggers around why they are having early inductions etc, it would be such a good way of showing what can/does happen in high risk and high bmi pregnancies.
If I had the profile these do, and was as open as they are I would use my platform to show it all, and raise awareness

 

[Adcs813]

I wonder if he may have brain damage. I had an induction which led to an emcs (not a cat 1) Although my baby needed resuscitation thankfully be didn't need NICU or anything. He had inhaled meconium and just needed resuscitation for ten mins. We were extremely lucky

But I know for some babies that need help breathing they can suffer a HIE or brain damage which can lead to cerebral palsy etc.

I know most cat 1 c sections usually end up in some kind of complication for baby

I hadn't realised she had been induced before full term.
how many weeks was she?

 

[Peachylite]

From her Instagram posts previously she was 38 weeks
Edited to add: she had a planned date as her last post in 12th November was last scan before eviction day.. which you would only know if it was planned, also only pregnancies with either high risk, consultant lead or with complications would have scans that late in pregnancy

 

[Gee_whip]

Sending them love and prayers but current situation aside, I would be absolutely mortified telling doctors, nurses, health workers and primary school teachers that my babies name is Bowie lol. In Birmingham lol.. maybe in LA it would work but even at that lol. I know right now that isn’t the most important thing but can u imagine the sniggers behind their backs.. They really try too hard to be hipster x

 

[PepsiCherry]

Bowie is my fave solo artist ( presume theirs too) and no way would it be a forename.. its a name for a celeb lol. Awful.

Bowie Payne.. Bowie is pain lol

 

[Gossngiggles]

I hadn’t heard of this woman but saw her mentioned elsewhere about the baby being poorly. Having a cat1 c section can be really traumatic as is having a poorly baby, I’ve been through both and I really feel for her and hope her baby is ok.
It has taken me years to get over the births of my children and I would have been absolutely devastated if people implied it was my fault somehow, I already felt awful enough.

 

[Sezmayers1]

Bowie is the name of tess Hollidays son! I hate out there names most of the time , but quite like Bowie ( I would think that's were it's from not because they like David Bowie).

 

[HiddenValley]

This is the 4th person of a very high bmi (over 40) that I've seen have significant problems with labour and delivery. All ended up with C sections and all needed general anaesthetic because they couldn't place an epidural/spinal block. One tried for a full hour to position it and then had to give up. They all ended up with wound infections or other issues with recovery because there are different stitches needed when you've a higher bmi. It's also more difficult to trace the baby too and more dangerous to use general anaesthetia. I know Grace Victory had covid but she's another person who had very significant complications. I'm not pointing blame but I do think there is a real need for genuine communication about the risks of pregnancy with very high bmi. We always tend to think that once the pregnancy results in a living child then it's all OK, but the reality is it can be very traumatic for the mothers and babies and the fathers too. I really do feel for them and wish none of this happened to them and really hope little Bowie is doing well.

 

[flutternutter]

This is the 4th person of a very high bmi (over 40) that I've seen have significant problems with labour and delivery. All ended up with C sections and all needed general anaesthetic because they couldn't place an epidural/spinal block. One tried for a full hour to position it and then had to give up. They all ended up with wound infections or other issues with recovery because there are different stitches needed when you've a higher bmi. It's also more difficult to trace the baby too and more dangerous to use general anaesthetia. I know Grace Victory had covid but she's another person who had very significant complications. I'm not pointing blame but I do think there is a real need for genuine communication about the risks of pregnancy with very high bmi. We always tend to think that once the pregnancy results in a living child then it's all OK, but the reality is it can be very traumatic for the mothers and babies and the fathers too. I really do feel for them and wish none of this happened to them and really hope little Bowie is doing well.

The problem with BMI is its not accurate, adding in the absolute stone age knowledge of womens reproductive organs the information you get from health "professionals" is a nonsense . So people at the far end of the scale like sophie get a watered down "we tell everyone this" message because they just seem to say over 30 is an issue.

When my bmi was 31 i was told my "obesity" caused my miscarriage. I was the fittest i had been in over 10 years. I ran at least 3x per week and my bmi had dropped from 45 to 31 (and still decreasing) when i found out i was pregnant. No consideration for my physical health or how well i ate/exercised. Youre obese. Its your fault.

Theres people way over that bmi popping them out no problem every day!
They need to do away with the bmi and find another way to measure it and put in more milestones for possible complications.

Putting a blanket "over 30" when you have people like sophie who must be around bmi 50? Its insane! Imagine the other way lumping people with a bmi of 10 against people bmi 30?

 

[Abcd123]

I wonder if he may have brain damage. I had an induction which led to an emcs (not a cat 1) Although my baby needed resuscitation thankfully be didn't need NICU or anything. He had inhaled meconium and just needed resuscitation for ten mins. We were extremely lucky

But I know for some babies that need help breathing they can suffer a HIE or brain damage which can lead to cerebral palsy etc.

I know most cat 1 c sections usually end up in some kind of complication for baby

I hadn't realised she had been induced before full term.
how many weeks was she?

I thought the same. 'Starved of oxygen' sounds like he could have brain damage.. at least tmmy understand is that that is what beibg starved of oxygen leads too... I hope I'm wrong.

My first swallowed meconium and I had emergency c section (not cat 1). He was on nicu but not at first was a few hrs later but came out of incubator the next day. We were in for a week..

The fact baby has gone to another hospital doesn't sound good either. Horrific. Thinking if them x

The problem with BMI is its not accurate, adding in the absolute stone age knowledge of womens reproductive organs the information you get from health "professionals" is a nonsense . So people at the far end of the scale like sophie get a watered down "we tell everyone this" message because they just seem to say over 30 is an issue.

When my bmi was 31 i was told my "obesity" caused my miscarriage. I was the fittest i had been in over 10 years. I ran at least 3x per week and my bmi had dropped from 45 to 31 (and still decreasing) when i found out i was pregnant. No consideration for my physical health or how well i ate/exercised. Youre obese. Its your fault.

Theres people way over that bmi popping them out no problem every day!
They need to do away with the bmi and find another way to measure it and put in more milestones for possible complications.

Putting a blanket "over 30" when you have people like sophie who must be around bmi 50? Its insane! Imagine the other way lumping people with a bmi of 10 against people bmi 30?

My bmi is 56. I had a planned section about 10 weeks ago. I needed staples to ensure the wound healed. They gave me a spinal AND an epidural as they thought ot would take a long time. I didn't. Consultant was stunned at how straight forward it was. I do feel VERY lucky though and know it could have gone another way.

But... just to add....just because she's had a cat 1 c section doesn't mean it's because if her weight. Plenty of non obese mums need a cat 1 too...

 

[flutternutter]

I thought the same. 'Starved of oxygen' sounds like he could have brain damage.. at least tmmy understand is that that is what beibg starved of oxygen leads too... I hope I'm wrong.

My first swallowed meconium and I had emergency c section (not cat 1). He was on nicu but not at first was a few hrs later but came out of incubator the next day. We were in for a week..

The fact baby has gone to another hospital doesn't sound good either. Horrific. Thinking if them x


My bmi is 56. I had a planned section about 10 weeks ago. I needed staples to ensure the wound healed. They gave me a spinal AND an epidural as they thought ot would take a long time. I didn't. Consultant was stunned at how straight forward it was. I do feel VERY lucky though and know it could have gone another way.

But... just to add....just because she's had a cat 1 c section doesn't mean it's because if her weight. Plenty of non obese mums need a cat 1 too...

Oh yes 100% i do not blame her weight for needing the c section.
Im glad it all went fine for you. They are risks not certainties thankfully.