Slimming World #4

[thepantsqueen]

The sex advert is official not made by rogue consultant like we thought...
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god forbid fat people actually like and enjoy sex, fuck off

Would you stop paying to watch Rafael Nadal play tennis or stop flying Virgin Airlines because the owners spend their money on yachts.

this is the same excuse people defend MLMs, the business model is shit and preys on vulnerable people

 

[rubyred66]

I am not a prude but I think that is a very wrong message to promote. Bad advertising in bad taste.

 

[gotcha77]

Came on tattle to see if anyone is discussing these SW influencers! Does SW pay them to do it and have SW in their Instagram name?

Does anyone follow
ellie_sw21 ? She looks great, I think she’s lost over 8 stone, but she went on holiday and gained 19 pounds!! The food she was posting was horrific - not just the all inclusive but she said she was eating huge bars of Milka every day, going to the local bakery. It was like watching a starving dog suddenly being fed again. It was honestly shocking to watch but she kept boasting and boasting about being ‘off plan’ and ‘back on plan next week’. SW seems to breed such an unhealthy attitude towards food

I’ve just come home from an all-inclusive holiday and gained 4lbs.I had a huge cooked breakfast, lunch, dinner and the odd icecream and gained 4lb so I dread to think what she was doing. 19 lbs !!!!

Nah they don’t get paid but some of them flog/indorse products with discount codes etc

For me what annoys me the most are the ones that aren’t even close to target anymore but still have the following and chat shit about getting back ‘on it’ etc

Like the guy in the photos above. I’ve seen him around. He’s a bit annoying but at least he’s staying within target range and has stabilised.

that icountsynsnotcalories is another example of that. Phenomenal weight loss and then maintenance after that. People should be respecting those that get to target and stay there without under-eating and/or doing 17 hours of exercise a day like a psycho.

..and don’t get me started on the overweight consultants!!!

I don’t think it’s actually the fault of the slimming world ‘plan’. I think it’s gross misinterpretation of the ‘rules’ / overly restricted eating from taking it to the extremes and basically undiagnosed binge / purge mentality.

If ED is present that needs to be handled properly first and separately

Just my opinion.

 

[walterisback]

I knew I had escaped the SW spell this morning when I stood on the scales. I hadn’t lost as much as I hoped but knew I was retaining fluid as my rings are stuck on my fingers. I used to go to group on a Friday am and the old me would have been in a foul mood and thinking of skipping group or preparing to go and feel like crap. But I just got off the scales and carried on with my day (reading Tattle).

 

[KeepitontheDL]

I think alot depends on the leader... I briefly joined SW last year and mine was very clear that yes, foods were free but follow the portion advice (eg. 1/2 plate speed aka veg) and she would emphasise that in an overall week the intention was to be in calorie defecit and she encouraged exercise. Many personal experiences on here are just awful and it seems leaders hadn't a notion, simply copied their previous leader and continued the cycle of shame / outdated advice.

I may have shared this before but I really noticed the difference in approach when my leader was away & the replacement went around the room person by person commenting on their gain/loss, seeking explanations and getting others to give advice etc. I sat with my face burning but thankfully he did not ask me as I was new and came late but nobody should feel that way in what is supposed to be a supportive environment that you are PAYING for!!

In general, the free food and syns is an antiquated notion and SW needs an overhaul - compared to 10 or 20 years ago, there is far more awareness around calories so as a poster mentioned above, alot of people already know that McDonald's is high calorie. Assigning a syn value doesn't help someone realise they can happily eat an occasional McDonald's provided the rest of their diet is balanced. I have to say, I despise Insta accounts promoting CC and their 1600/1800 kcals a day are devoid of fruit or veg and laden with sugar, procssed food etc. It might be a deficit but they are not really promoting a healthy balanced diet.

I do think SW is helpful to those who previously survived on processed food and gained weight. For example, pre-Covid, my cousin NEVER cooked from scratch. Takeaways or oven meals only. She joined SW during Covid and was amazed how easy it was to cook once she started following some simple recipes. Yes, she was conscious of calories and weighed her 'free food' carbs but in general, it helped her. Now I just have to put up with her harping on about "its a lifestyle change"

I guess what I'm trying to say in a long, rambling way is that I can see the positives and negatives of SW and ultimately they need to get with the times and sack most of the leaders!

 

[disillusionedbythegram]

The problem with any diet is that it puts certain foods up on a pedestal by making them something you should avoid because it’s got syns or high points or is a carb etc etc. that’s why so many of the slimming world community who jumped onto intuitive eating a few years ago failed massively because suddenly all foods are allowed! So they’re going to eat creme eggs and bread and pizza. Eating intuitively only works if you genuinely enjoy how a salad makes your body feel and see it as an equal dinner to a pizza. I haven’t followed slimming world officially for years and am only now just starting to see foods for what the are again. Eg I had a takeaway last night because we fancied one and I actually ate way less than I used to because I was full, and this morning I’ve woken up with a proper food hangover and it’s putting me off having one for a while. But old slimming world me would’ve continued with getting another takeaway straight after weigh day next week regardless of how it made me feel physically because it’s the one thing I ‘allowed’ myself to do after weigh in.

 

[Stillsneezy]

This is heartbreaking to hear. Me and my daughter decided between us when she was in her twenties to join and we did as a weekly meet up. I hope I never do any lasting damage. I am horrified of some peoples experiences from a young age.

how do you cope now?

I think being in your 20s and joining is different developmentally from being 15. For me it was during the difficult teen years were I never felt I was good enough and didn't tick any of the boxes mum drew for me.

I know mum meant well, she just didn't know how it would effect me and that it made things worse.

One positive thing that I did get from SW is that I went on and researched nutrition on my own and have a better understanding of what bodies need to thrive I don't think I would have gone down that rabbit hole without SW.

 

[ElmoCookie]

Listening back to all these things makes me realise what a twat I was and the crap I used to spout

 

[BuffaloSoldier]

And the fact that most of the companies profits are from repeat members. Failure is their business model.

Promoting “heathy” eating habits when no doubt she doesn’t follow SW herself and feeding off those in a vulnerable state is what I have the issue with.

 

[Lookoverthere]

Never seen so many people getting surgery as I have lately on the gram. And there all ex slimming worlders

I am ex sw, did it with friends as I was a bridesmaid, lost nearly 3 stone, all came back plus another 3. Really messed with my eating habits with the whole on/off plan it was very much all or nothing, ended up going to Turkey last year for wls and now 6 stone down and never looked back! Best thing I’ve ever done for myself

 

[WhatABore]

Yeah I see what you mean with the burger it doesn’t make sense. Tbh I’m not that into it in that sense. Im not making all these fad foods. I’m just eating what we normally eat minus the goodies and takeaways. I’m doing it more of a cutting out shite like sugar and swapping for sweetener… red milk instead of blue. I haven’t been eating bread which I feel much better for as I think I had a slight intolerance anyway but no willpower to stay off it.

What I do think though is if anyone is stupid enough to think they can eat a kg of rice or a huge bowl of pasta and lose weight then they’re beyond help. It’s basic common sense… just because SW call it free it’s not free.

I’m also cycling a lot too so that’s contributing to my weight loss. I guess I’m not really following SW as other people do… I’m using it as more of a loose tool + an incentive to lose each week because I don’t want to go into the group and be asked ‘what happened?’ Basically I’m using SW as it appeals to my competitive side so I know I’ll lose because I want to meet my goals and be praised.

I haven’t heard any of the above things off the consultant about eat as much as you want of rice, pasta etc,.. what I did listen to in group the other night which I disagreed with was her giving advice to a type 1 diabetic who was devastated that she’d maintained telling her to get her medication reviewed and change this and that food as she’d followed the plan. I just think that’s dangerous territory and something a SlimmingWorld consultant isn’t qualified to be messing with.

This is the thing as well though, some people join SW at 20/30+ stone after spending their whole life eating all sorts and somethings never having dieted.
Those people have no idea of nutrition or calories. My sister was one of these. She had no idea of the calories of things.
So going to slimming world, with no understanding of what it takes scientifically to lose weight and being told you can eat as much pasta and chips and whatever as you like, she thought that was correct.
Because why wouldn't you?
She was making plates of homemade chips as snacks because it was free.
But she still lost weight because she'd spent her lifetime with takeaways ect.
But then it eventually slows and this is when they get confused, because its not working anymore.
A lot of consultants don't encourage exercise either, in fact my own told me to stop because water retention was making me appear to gain weight.

Even myself when I first started, I understood calories ect but I thought well, i don't understand how it works, but I can eat as much as I want of free food, and people lose weight so there must be something there in it. There must be some secret rule that makes these foods okay!

They don't really teach you anything. And for the ones who had no idea before, will still have no idea after if SW is all they've known. So I wouldn't say its basic common sense. You have to be taught these things to know them in the first place
It may seem common sense to you, because you already learnt all that

 

[rubyred66]

It shows that they are not reading the forms, they are just grasping the sign ups. Was this the paper form in class?.because other plans online won't let you go ahead

I went to the slimming world group with my daughter and she still has the text message on her phone from the consultant saying she should rejoin before her due date and after the birth weigh in, the awards that she will gain will kick start motivation to be a target member again. I can’t tell you how annoyed I was for multiple reasons. What about the normal people just trying to lose weight by healthy eating habits and body magic? It’s like she was actively being encouraged to cheat. It’s that mentality that is off putting about slimming world but that is consultant behaviour led, not by the plan.

I would like to think Slimming Word office would not encourage that?

 

[rubyred66]

Today the consultant has rang the member leading the community group we are doing, she first made threats, then she called up again, back tracked and asked for the details not to be shared with anyone and being too nice about it. She not long ago text my friend and said the area manager will be in touch. It is petty!

 

[mee43]

I went to SW for a couple of years (before the pandemic) and lost a lot of weight in those two years. I've since put on weight - with the lockdowns and the stress of the last few years. After everything opened up, I went back, but I felt differently about it all (almost like the whole thing was pointless). I have ended up going away from the whole SW thing ever since. When I look back on it, I can't believe how into it I was, the ridiculous little recipe 'hacks' - I hate quark so much, as well as, the Fry Light spray, the super low-fat (and sour) cheese etc. What I hated most was how I got told by the group consultant to stop eating food from my culture because it was all 'full of syns' (even if I cooked everything with Fry Light), and that the best way to lose the weight, was to follow, cook and make SW food from their cookbooks. I'm not sure why it annoyed me...it still does if I really think about it now.
Even when I see photos of myself back then, it shocks me. Yes I was a lot slimmer, but my skin wasn't as glowy and my hair wasn't shiny (it became quite rough, and still hasn't gone back to its original softness/lustre, which upsets me). I didn't like how competitive or attention-seeking some of the members in the group I attended were, or how it was expected of you to open up after having a gain. I eat my feelings when I'm extremely stressed or in a depressive moment; it was so hard to explain it whenever I did gain. I would just cry whenever it happened and that always felt quite embarrassing, as I don't like to cry in public (let alone at a weight loss group where you are openly asked to explain yourself).
I don't think SW is a long-term viable plan; especially when it comes to maintaining weight loss in the long run. I think I'm just going to go back to the tried and tested method of eating balanced meals and regular exercise, while hoping for the best

I can completely relate to so much you’ve said. And I actually don’t think it’s acceptable for a group leader to tell you not to eat food from your culture. The whole point of SW is supposed to be about eating the foods you love, but finding ways to make them more SW friendly (using the dreaded Fry Light, Quark, sweeteners and so on)
Personally I think that no one who loves good, heathy food is going to get on with SW. I don’t agree with the concept of being able to eat loads of artificially sweetened, awful yoghurts, yet half an avocado and a little olive oil will use up most/all of your “syns”.
And I definitely agree that such a very low fat diet isn’t good for skin and hair.
I struggle with emotional eating too. For what it’s worth I’ve knocked dieting completely on the head this past couple of weeks and I’ve somehow lost 4lbs!
Without realising it, I’ve been walking a lot more and eating in a healthier way - maybe because I’m not thinking that I’m going on a diet tomorrow so I’ll eat loads today
I wish you well - I think your plan of eating healthier and moving more is a good one

 

[thepantsqueen]

I did really well on slimming world and I gained the three stone back and I do think I had bad influence from sw insta and I'm starting to wish I never encountered it.

 

[ramennoodle]

I will, thank you. We do need an app we can all use they are talking MyFitnessPal or Nutracheck I think it is called. I don’t know a lot about food apps or apps in general so if any one here can provide some suggestions?

If you are calorie counting then 100% Nutracheck. It is super cheap and miles better than My Fitness Pal.

MFP - anyone can add anything to the database so info is unreliable, plus it is heavily US weighted.

Nutracheck is brilliant. Easy to search, great 'eating out' database, easy to add your own recipes, barcode scanner...... just be wary of the calculator setting your targets - 1200 to 1400 is the lowest default and it generally isn't enough for a long term, sustainable weightloss plan.

Use the James Smith or similar calculator and set your own target on Nutracheck.

 

[WhatABore]

Hello, new to this thread. Just wondering, of the people on this thread, what is your opinion on SW? I've been a member on and off for years and I'm heavier now than I've ever been. Haven't been to SW since February. In your opinion, does it work? Is it a big money scam? Would you swear by it? Why did you leave?
I also think it's interesting that a few leaders left it and never mentioned it again, would love to know their thoughts on it now looking back.
I'm contemplating rejoining for the umpteenth time but should I just try something else?

It's a waste of money tbh.
All they care about is your money. It works because if you do it properly, you end up in a calorie deficit.
That's it.
There's no magic behind it.

It isn't good for relationships with food.
Labelling foods bad and good. Synning foods that are good for you, like avacados.

As mentioned previously on here, you can have a slimming world version of a big mac for minimal syns/no syns. Yet it's more calories than an actual big mac which is 20 syns or whatever.

They don't encourage exercise really either.

Calorie counting would save you a lot of money. And easy to do on the apps. Tdee calculator will give you the amount you need daily

 

[Tamara]

Ooh where did they leak the training stuff?

That’s such a good idea, when I get back from my holiday I’m going to weigh every week and put £6 aside instead of going to SW. I’m going to try and just eat healthily and see how I get on, don’t really want to calorie count everything so going to just eat sensibly with lots of veg and protein and see how I get on!

I have leaked pictures on my phone not all of it. It has taken me ages to find it was away back in April 20, 2021.
A personal trainer got hold of the leaked stuff and it went viral. As a lot of folk stopped going to slimming world because of the lockdowns.
It’s like 14 pictures of stuff.
If you want it put up here I can.
I also found out from an ex Slimming World consultant that they syn foods that aren’t their food to make you buy Slimming World foods (eg. soups, salads, ready meals bars etc. when their stuff is higher in calories, fat etc. It’s a way of getting rid of their competitors to make more money. I knew this as a lot of stuff that has syns shouldn’t have syns.

ooooh is the leaked stuff still out there?

The personal trainer who leaked a slimming world consultants training program pictures has disappeared. But I took screen shots of them I have still got it on my phone it was April 20 2021

 

[Wowwwwwwwww]

Is he wearing a vest? That bow tie is amazing!!

Why does it actually look like him

 

[Lifeislemons]

I see snaresy has deleted his long post about leaving insta…