Sir Keir Starmer #3

[Yel]

There's no craft.

Any excuse to mention the Victorian pumping stations!

Now

In Victorian days money was "wasted" on ornate and unnecessary craftsmanship. Now it's just syphoned off for the wealthy.

Not that I think it was wasted, without art what is the point of life.

Liverpool literally lost it's UNESCO status because of ruining the area with soulless modern buildings. The insanity!

 

[moldwarp]

I was saying the other day when I saw how amazing the Clifton Suspension bridge is from an engineering and architectural point of view, and that if it ever collapsed our government would 1) not have the funds to replace it like for like 2) not really have the knowledge on how to replace it like for like 3) not have the physical man power to replace ot like for like.
Our infrastructure is mostly Victorian and is crumbling with wear and tear but hasn't really been maintained. We don't and can't build buildings like the Natural History Museum from scratch anymore. The materials and labour forces would just not be possible. Railways built by navvies.

Buildings now are prefabricated things with glass frontages. There's no craft.

We don't produce our own stuff anymore and so we are utterly dependent on the ability to buy from other countries. But what happens when our country's purse is finally empty and we can't borrow?

And those in charge right now are hastily trying to paper over the cracks pretending we are industrious when really we are not.

Oh yeah man! Isambard Kingdom Brunel - what a stone cold ledge! Seriously. Brunel, man. Once in a century type of genius.

I disagree with your last line tho: I think the Brits are tremendously industrious. Head down to southern Med if you wanna see real laziness at work But I think the Brits know on some deep level that we’ve not currently got much worth working FOR. Like, humans will achieve the most bonkers superhuman level feats of brilliance as long as they believe that the goal is worth achieving and will make life better. I mean duck me, have you SEEN Salisbury bleeping Cathedral! That thing should not have been even POSSIBLE for the time it was built, duckin ell man its almost beyond human ability. And there’s stuff just like that all over friggin Europe!

So yeah Brits have it in us we just need something that’s worthy of our ingenuity and effort. Leaning into the AI revolution is crucial and we have the technical know how to maximise it we just don’t have the infrastructure to handle it ie lots of data centres.

So yeah, let’s harness British ingenuity and engineering genius and build lots of data centres so we can become global leaders in AI and revive our stagnant economy!

Oh but wait, we can’t because we have a googly eyed flappy lipped tit-for-brains Environment Secretary who once lost a fight with a bacon sandwich and thinks building useless wind turbines in non windy locations is more important than signing off new construction because a mentally ill teenager once told him that buildings make her cry.

 

[kev1974]

It'll be a struggle just to keep it operational for the next 50 years imo.

Look at Hammersmith bridge, it was closed 7 years ago! Open now to pedestrians and cycles but still a major artery for vehicles closed.

It has taken pretty much that long just for the council in Newcastle to organise, secure the funds, and get started on a repaint of the Tyne Bridge, another absolutely iconic UK bridge. Just a flipping repaint! Stuff that in the past would just be taken as a given that needs doing every so often, and be planned for in the finances accordingly, in a larger scale version of the same way that a responsible company plans to replace all the laptops over so many years or repaint the reception lobby. In some cases these mega bridges would have had a permanent staff of their own doing the maintenance continually.

Now these big infrastructure are used as blackmail chips, with the local council saying "well we haven't got the money, we were forced to spend it on <insert carefully chosen worthy social cause> instead" and the central government saying "well we haven't got the money either". And it goes back and forth for years, meanwhile the bridge sits there rusting away.

 

[Peter Out]

Just think of the billions being wasted on HS2, this should be spent instead on "Low Speed Rail" - reversing the insane and spiteful railway closures of the 1960s. But I suppose that wouldn't grab the headlines of getting from Birmingham to London a few minutes faster.

 

[Miss Havisham]

Bizarre how any Labour politician, could think that the public would want Rayner as leader.
They really are up tit creek.

 

[chizontiz]

Could it be that Sir Keir is desperate to shut X down because that’s where all the rumours about the Ukrainian rent boys are swirling??

 

[Skewbedu]

Could it be that Sir Keir is desperate to shut X down because that’s where all the rumours about the Ukrainian rent boys are swirling??

I don't know how I've missed this story but what is the story?

 

[bollox]

I don't know how I've missed this story but what is the story?

Welcome to last year..

The trial is set for April(?)

 

[TrashleenMoron]

Bizarre how any Labour politician, could think that the public would want Rayner as leader.
They really are up tit creek.

But she's really common with a working class accent!!

That's what the prolls like, right?

 

[Yel]

It's so insulting people are called misogynists and classists for calling big Ange thick. She's thick because she's thick, it's disgusting trying to weaponize any criticism.

Remember when she borrowed Lord Allis luxury high rise flat with jacuzzi in Manhattan over Christmas and claimed it was worth £250 a night, which would barely get a 3 star hotel in that area at that time of the year.

 

[Archduchess of Luxembourg]

It's so insulting people are called misogynists and classists for calling big Ange thick. She's thick because she's thick, it's disgusting trying to weaponize any criticism.

Remember when she borrowed Lord Allis luxury high rise flat with jacuzzi in Manhattan over Christmas and claimed it was worth £250 a night, which would barely get a 3 star hotel in that area at that time of the year.

Or expecting us to believe that her mother fed them shaving foam and dog food. Items found it the relevant aisles in supermarkets with pictures of animals on, or men shaving.

 

[chizontiz]

Welcome to last year..

The trial is set for April(?)

its the kind of thing you come across on the internet and would ordinarily think “yeah, alright” but honestly given the Mandelson revelations, my spidey senses are tingling.

another Ukrainian ‘model’ was arrested around 10 days ago, and Starmer was shaking like a leaf whilst being dragged over the coals by Kemi in last week’s PMQ’s. Something tells me that the timing of it all is related somehow and that Starmer has far bigger problems on his plate than getting booted out of number 10, but I am also trying to keep one foot on the ground and not get too lost in the AI slop of it all.

 

[VeniVidiVicki]

Or expecting us to believe that her mother fed them shaving foam and dog food. Items found it the relevant aisles in supermarkets with pictures of animals on, or men shaving.

She’s a bad as dr dr Jack Monroe with her lurid tales of poverty

 

[moldwarp]

It's so insulting people are called misogynists and classists for calling big Ange thick. She's thick because she's thick, it's disgusting trying to weaponize any criticism.

Remember when she borrowed Lord Allis luxury high rise flat with jacuzzi in Manhattan over Christmas and claimed it was worth £250 a night, which would barely get a 3 star hotel in that area at that time of the year.

AMEN SISTER. Look I grew up in a single parent family, mother a cleaner, mental illness alcohol abuse and social services all involved, plus racist bullying at school (I was called the P-word, which honestly just goes to show how DUMB bullies are because I'm not P. I'm Greek, so technically, they should've called me a wop )

Real working class people know how to behave decently, honestly and with high standards, we dress appropriately for occasions (Big Ange flomping around in stupid chunky heels as a Minister of the State is an insult to the voter), we don't boast about getting drunk in public and flashing our growlers at men to distract them from doing their jobs, we learn how to speak correctly, we are decent, polite and socially aware.

And above all we DON'T use our challenging or adverse early life experiences to excuse DISHONEST, THIEVING, HYPOCRITICAL behavious.

Big Ange is an insult to voters and an even bigger insult to the class she claims to champion.

and YES @VeniVidiVicki there is more than a hint of the Monroe about her. Like Monroe, Big Ange is a tame pet of the Guardian-reading self-satisfied smooth-brained fool class.

 

[moldwarp]

I don't know how I've missed this story but what is the story?

Well now little @Skewbedu , sit yourself down and let me tell you a story.

Please bear in mind it IS only a story, and any resemblance to any lantern jawed politicians is purely coincidental, m'lud!

You see little @Skewbedu , once upon a time, in a kingdom far, far away, there lived a man called Mier Barmer, the hoary handed, large chinned son of a sainted and blessed toolmaker. But Mier was not satisfied with his father's toolmaking ways. His eyes were fixed upon a greater dream, he wished to journey all the way to London Town and to the Palace of Westminster, where he wished to rule all the citizens and settle his grey, technocratic and deeply corrupt fair, just and sensible rule all over the land.

In order to do this, Mier had to marry, because the citizens of Westminster prefer a leader who's happily married, to a lady (an actual lady, mind, not one of those brick shithouse ladies with willies). And so he did, he married a beautiful lady called Kicktoria, who liked all the same hobbies and pastimes as Mier did, such as getting fancy clothes for free, going to concerts for free, and wearing designer specs, also for free.

But you see, Mier had a dark and dirty secret. A secret that he believed he could never reveal, because if he did, the citizens of Westminster might not let him be their ruler anymore. And do you know what that secret was? Well, Mier LOVES immigrants, right? Especially immigrants who'll monopolise local councils and form voting blocs to keep him in power. But you see the thing is, sometimes Mier loves immigrants SO MUCH, he actually lets them come round to his house and rail him senseless unblock his u-bend with their plungers. For which he pays them. Cash in hand, of course, because whilst Mier and his mates just LOVE taxation, they only love it when other people are paying it.

And so what happened next? Well, there were three beautiful rent boys Ukrainian princelings, called, oh, I dunno, Bilbo, Frodo and Gozo. And they pumped their plungers into Mier's U-bend, and they cleaned him right out! But Mier, with his mind on serious affairs of state, forgot to pay them! And so what did those three princelings do? Well, they huffed, and they puffed, and they BURNED his house down! (Well, just the porch. And his old car.)

And Lady Kicktoria was sore in wrath and kicked him out of the house and he had to go and stay in a flat owned by his fairy godmother, Lord Ali. But Mier is very clever, so he put out lots of photos of his children so that when he did public broadcasts from the flat (as this was during a time when all the land was sorely afflicted with a plague, and all citizens were shut up in their homes), it looked like he was still in his house!

But not everyone was fooled and rumours abounded aplenty.

To be continued.....

 

[Skewbedu]

Little Skewbedu much enjoyed that bedtime story. Many thanks

Only one point to pick you up on. Surely it was Lord Bali?

 

[moldwarp]

Little Skewbedu much enjoyed that bedtime story. Many thanks

Only one point to pick you up on. Surely it was Lord Bali?

Well whoever it was, it definitely absolutely wasn't Lord Alli, because he's been named quite prominently in the Epstein files, and since he's donated almost a £million quid to Labour and also given countless clothes, specs, Taylor Swift ticks and free use of a flat, well, it could almost look as if Labour's backed by corrupt money, and that wouldn't do at all, would it?

Of course not, because as we all know, Labour is purer than pure and the only corrupt politicians around are the Tories, who are a mildly right of centre British political party a brood of monstrous vipers who hate the poor and most especially hate women and brown people. And we can prove that the Tories are racist misogynists because they've never, ever, EVER elected a female leader or elevated men and women of colour to senior ranks within their party, never at all, whereas Labour's track record here is....oh. Hang on. I'm getting a bit stuck here. Let me go and lie down for a bit and think about how evil the Tories are, and how glad I am that the adults are back in charge.

 

[VeniVidiVicki]

I see Starmer’s director of comms has now resigned. I’m not convinced this strategy is going to work for Starmer.

 

[Justhereforthedrama]

I see Starmer’s director of comms has now resigned. I’m not convinced this strategy is going to work for Starmer.

My guess is they know bad \ embarassing stuff is going to come out in this release of the mandelson files. So they are jumping before being fired.

 

[IngressUK]

its the kind of thing you come across on the internet and would ordinarily think “yeah, alright” but honestly given the Mandelson revelations, my spidey senses are tingling.

another Ukrainian ‘model’ was arrested around 10 days ago, and Starmer was shaking like a leaf whilst being dragged over the coals by Kemi in last week’s PMQ’s. Something tells me that the timing of it all is related somehow and that Starmer has far bigger problems on his plate than getting booted out of number 10, but I am also trying to keep one foot on the ground and not get too lost in the AI slop of it all.

The simple fact is don't go into politics if you have skeletons hiding in the closet.

Those skeletons will more than likely find their way out one day, due to the very public nature of politics - and how it operates.

I too would of once dismissed such an accusation as 'conspiracy'.

However, after what has gone on recently, plus the strange co-incidence of all three who attacked Starmer's property having accounts on Grindr - now makes me think there IS something going on here.