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All these posts are giving me hope that this country is not finished. There are people out there who can see the truth and aren't blinded by virtue signalling and hypocrisy.
 
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All these posts are giving me hope that this country is not finished. There are people out there who can see the truth and aren't blinded by virtue signalling and hypocrisy.
Oh Sharkey my friend I can tell you that 97.8888% of the working and lower middle classes, and about 67% of the middle classes, can see the truth very well - about the economy, our politicians, our culture, the world in which we live and all the rest of it.

The only reason why it seems like disingenuous virtue-signalling neomarxist Wokeists have hegemony is because they are the producers of popular mainstream music, TV, news, and are therefore also the dominant voices of social media. This is because the upper middle and upper classes basically effected a takeover of popular culture and the news industry from the 1990s on.

But, it's changing. Just think 5 years ago saying that Dylan Mulvaney is an untalented weird grifting dude would've got you cancelled. But now anyone can say it. Twitter's no longer merely a propaganda platform for the Elite Woke Left and the wonderful JK Rowling made it permissible for sex realism to make a comeback (seriously we women are very grateful to her).

Woke movies bomb, MSM channels are hemorraghing viewership, ordinary people are learning critical thinking.

The Elite Woke Left is on retreat, penned back into a few posh unis and the insane asylum that is Bluesky (honestly I spend time there when I'm a bit down to have a laugh at all the posho wailing, it's like a tonic for the soul).

In the end, Truth Wins.
 
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I listened to this podcast with Raja Miah on your recommendation today and the man is FABULOUS.


Why have I not heard of him before?

Thank you so much for the rec - he's a breath of fresh air (as is your post above) 💪🏻
 
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I listened to this podcast with Raja Miah on your recommendation today and the man is FABULOUS.


Why have I not heard of him before?

Thank you so much for the rec - he's a breath of fresh air (as is your post above) 💪🏻
The reason you’ve not heard of him is because we immigrants are only loved and platformed by the Cultural Woke Elite if we dance to their tune and join them in their politics of resentment and destruction.

It’s tremendous racism. In the eyes of the Progressive Elite, we’re only worth anything if we dance to the tune of our white progressive masters, speak their approved lines, and vote for them in return for benefits (which makes us even more beholden to them of course).

There is nothing the Progressive Elite hates more than immigrants who love Britain and its great culture and history, and come here to integrate, strive, obey the law, make money and pay taxes. They HATE those of us who do that, because they hate immigrants who think for themselves. Just look at how the Progressives talk about Trevor Philips, Stella Braverman, Priti Patel etc etc

It makes me laugh quite a lot when I imagine the conniptions which the Progressive Elite would have if they could hear me and my fellow immigrant friends talking about how immigration is out of control and expressing distress at Britains cultural decline and sectarian policing and justice. In fact, some of us (loads of us, actually) have even been known to…NOT VOTE LABOUR!

Shock! Horror! Excuse me Master, the little foreigners are disobeying orders! Activate the Bigot Insult Generator, Batman!

But it’s ok tho cos the Progressives would never lower themselves to actually talk to working class, fully integrated immigrants. So they’ll never find out what we think and they’ll continue to be butthurt about our inexplicable bigotry. Saaadddd!!!
 
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Have his “Ukrainian Bum boys” , I mean “chess playing young mates” been disappeared yet?
The court case should be due soon?
If nothing else kicks him from the PM position, then I’m guessing the “discovery” from this court case will….
 
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I'm hoping the Mandelson scandal will be the end of Starmer. He knew how dodgy he was - what on earth possessed him to proceed with the Washington appointment?
 
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I'm hoping the Mandelson scandal will be the end of Starmer. He knew how dodgy he was - what on earth possessed him to proceed with the Washington appointment?
You think that our blessed Prime Minister, who built his election pitch to the public on his probity, honesty and competence, should find himself disgraced by elevating to power Peter Mandelson, pedalo-adjacent bezzie mate of a known sex trafficker?

What are you, a BIGOT or something? It's not as if Kier's done something REALLY awful, like eating a piece of cake in his office during lockdown! Of course he should keep his job! He's doing so remarkably well at it, after all!

There's one email buried in the Epstein files where Epstein offers to 'set Mandelson up' with some 'friends', to which Mandelson replies, 'is the boy OK?'

Imagine if it was Dominic Cummings in place of Peter Mandelson. The whole Govt wouldve fallen by now.
 
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How was this man not cancelled years ago?
13 APRIL 2012

AN EVENING Standard investigation today raises new questions about how the Business Secretary, Peter Mandelson, was able to finance his purchase of a £2.5 million villa near Regent's Park.

Using publicly-available records, the Standard examined Lord Mandelson's finances and his proceeds from a decade in the property market. Even on the most generous possible analysis, we have established that there appears to be a substantial gap between the amount of money he was able to raise and the price he paid for his latest house.

Almost 10 years after Lord Mandelson was brought down by buying a house he could not afford, the disclosure will inevitably fuel speculation as to whether he has again financed a property purchase through the generosity of a rich benefactor, along the same lines as the millionaire businessman Geoffrey Robinson, who in 1998 secretly lent him £373,000 to buy a house in Notting Hill.

Lord Mandelson's spokeswoman last night refused to deny the existence of a new loan.

In 1998 the then Mr Mandelson failed to declare the loan although his own department was investigating Mr Robinson over an unrelated matter. This forced him to quit as Trade Secretary in December 1998. Lord Mandelson declares no loan, gift or any other such interest in his current declaration of interest as a peer.

His current property is even smarter than the Notting Hill house that caused his first resignation. The pink-stucco property is on one of London's most expensive streets where neighbours have included former England and Manchester City football manager, Sven Goran-Eriksson, and theatre impresario, Sir Cameron Mackintosh.

Sir Cameron is worth around £450 million. Even Mr Goran-Eriksson was on a salary of £5 million a year at England, and £2 million at City. By contrast Mr Mandelson, then an EU commissioner, was on the comparatively modest salary of around £160,000 a year when he bought the house. He also received a further housing allowance from the EU but this was spent on renting a flat in Brussels.

Land Registry records show he paid £2.4 million for his Regent's Park house - or £2.5 million including stamp duty and legal fees. This was almost 16 times his income, a mortgage which even in pre-credit crunch days no lender would contemplate.

It was reported at the time that Mr Mandelson had financed much of the purchase through selling shares in the advertising agency Clemmow Hornby Inge. However, Companies House records obtained by the Standard show that these shares were not sold until June 2007, nearly a year after Mr Mandelson bought his Regent's Park house.

Sources close to Mr Mandelson also claimed at the time that he had been able to finance the purchase with a large legacy from his mother, Mary, who died earlier the same year. However, the Standard has obtained a copy of Mary Mandelson's will, which shows that the amount her son received, though substantial, was nowhere near £2.5 million.

After inheritance tax, the value of her estate was just under £980,000. She left a total of £76,000 to various beneficiaries including the Labour Party, the pressure group Liberty, her daughter-in-law and the nursing home in which she died. The remainder was split between her two sons, leaving Mr Mandelson with just under £452,000.

Probate was granted on 12 July 2006 and Mr Mandelson purchased his Regents Park house almost immediately afterwards, suggesting that he applied the whole sum to the purchase. That still left him almost £2.1 million short.

Could he have found the rest of the money from the equity built up in a decade's dealings in the London property market? Our investigations suggest not. Including the Notting Hill house, he has bought or sold five London properties in the past 10 years (he has lived in more than five homes but the others were temporary accommodation or rented).

Using Land Registry records, we have traced the price Mr Mandelson paid for each of his homes. He made a profit on all of them and an extraordinary profit on one. In August 1999, after selling the Notting Hill house and repaying Mr Robinson in full, he bought a one-bedroomed flat in Pembridge Villas, Notting Hill, for £249,000. Just 19 months later, in March 2001, he sold it for £545,000, a rise of 118 per cent. The average property in the area rose by only 12 per cent over the same period, although part of the difference may be explained by the fact that Mr Mandelson's flat was extensively refurbished under his ownership.

The man who paid Mr Mandelson such a high price was Arthur Bastings, then managing director for northern and central Europe at Turner Broadcasting, the TV arm of the media giant Time Warner. Mr Bastings owns the flat below Mr Mandelson's and it is possible that he was prepared to pay a substantial premium in order to join the two floors together. However, there is no record of any planning application for this. Mr Bastings declined to comment yesterday.

Mr Mandelson's profits on his other transactions were proportionately much smaller. However, the key to estimating how much equity he was able to build up from his dealings depends also on how big a mortgage debt he took each time, and thus how much he had to repay to the lender when he sold each property.

Normally, the amount of a person's mortgage on any property is private. But because of the investigation by the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner into Mr Mandelson's Notting Hill house purchase, we do know that he took out a £150,000 mortgage on it. With this information, it is possible to estimate roughly how much equity he has amassed from each of his five transactions between the Notting Hill house and his purchase of the Regent's Park house in August 2006.

Our calculations show that by August 2006, even assuming Mr Mandelson reinvested the entire profit each time in his next property and took a mortgage only for the remainder, and even assuming he was lucky enough always to get the best possible interest rates and repayment deals, he would have built up equity of between only £700,000 and £840,000.

Adding in his bequest from his mother, that would still have left him between £1.2 million and £1.35 million adrift from the price of his Regent's Park house.

Mr Mandelson did have one other substantial asset, his former constituency home in Hutton Avenue, Hartlepool, which he bought in 1990 for £69,000 and sold in 2005 for £205,000. He sold a country cottage near Ross-on-Wye to buy this house. Even making the - again generous - assumption that the Hartlepool house was fully paid off when he sold it and he was able to bank all the proceeds, that would have left him with between £1 million and £1.15 million to find.

Could this gap have been bridged by a mortage? Land Registry records show that Mr Mandelson has a mortgage, with HSBC, on his Regent's Park home but the amount is not disclosed. The highest mortgage HSBC offered at the time to standard single buyers was four and a half times salary. £1 million is around six and a half times Mr Mandelson's then salary; £1.15 million is seven times.

"As someone with the potential to write high-earning memoirs or get corporate directorships in the future, it is just possible that they could have given him a six-and-a-half or seven times salary mortgage," said one banking expert. "But I still think it very unlikely. I would imagine that as a single man they would have offered him, at most, between four and five times salary."

It was reported in November 2006 that Mr Mandelson had a mortgage of £750,000 on the Regent's Park property, 4.6 times his salary, which would be consistent with this. If this is correct, this would have left him with a last gap to fill of between £250,000 and £400,000.

How could Mr Mandelson could have filled this shortfall? The Standard has examined Mr Mandelson's declarations of interest as an MP between 1992 and 2004 and as a European commissioner between 2004 and last year. As a minister between 1997 and 1998, and again between 1999 and 2001, he was not allowed any paid interests, and declares none. The same applies to his work as a European commissioner between 2004 and 2008.

During his periods as a backbench MP, he lists under "remunerated employment" only modestly-paid work for GQ magazine and speaking engagements. Apart from the ad agency Clemmow Hornby Inge, he registers no other shareholdings or directorships.

The only other source of declared income is his relationship with the French business "fixer," Alain Minc. Between 2002 and 2004 he acted as an "adviser" to Mr Minc's consultancy firm, AM Conseil. Between 2001 and last year Mr Minc was also a board member of Policy Network, a British think-thank and networking organisation of which Mr Mandelson is honorary chair.

Despite employing only three staff - Mr Minc, a secretary and a chauffeur - AM Conseil turned over £5.5 million a year in 2004. According to Mr Minc's biographer, Stephane Marchand, Mr Minc charges up to £150,000 for a consultation to favoured clients and "earns his money selling intelligence and influence." It has never been clear what Mr Mandelson, who does not speak French, did for AM Conseil, or how much he earned.

A spokeswoman for Lord Mandelson yesterday refused to answer when asked if Lord Mandelson had received any gifts or loans, other than his mortgage, to help him buy his Regent's Park house. In a five-word statement, she said that the Standard had "made inaccurate assumptions" but, when pressed, refused to elaborate.
 
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How was this man not cancelled years ago?
13 APRIL 2012

AN EVENING Standard investigation today raises new questions about how the Business Secretary, Peter Mandelson, was able to finance his purchase of a £2.5 million villa near Regent's Park.

Using publicly-available records, the Standard examined Lord Mandelson's finances and his proceeds from a decade in the property market. Even on the most generous possible analysis, we have established that there appears to be a substantial gap between the amount of money he was able to raise and the price he paid for his latest house.

Almost 10 years after Lord Mandelson was brought down by buying a house he could not afford, the disclosure will inevitably fuel speculation as to whether he has again financed a property purchase through the generosity of a rich benefactor, along the same lines as the millionaire businessman Geoffrey Robinson, who in 1998 secretly lent him £373,000 to buy a house in Notting Hill.

Lord Mandelson's spokeswoman last night refused to deny the existence of a new loan.

In 1998 the then Mr Mandelson failed to declare the loan although his own department was investigating Mr Robinson over an unrelated matter. This forced him to quit as Trade Secretary in December 1998. Lord Mandelson declares no loan, gift or any other such interest in his current declaration of interest as a peer.

His current property is even smarter than the Notting Hill house that caused his first resignation. The pink-stucco property is on one of London's most expensive streets where neighbours have included former England and Manchester City football manager, Sven Goran-Eriksson, and theatre impresario, Sir Cameron Mackintosh.

Sir Cameron is worth around £450 million. Even Mr Goran-Eriksson was on a salary of £5 million a year at England, and £2 million at City. By contrast Mr Mandelson, then an EU commissioner, was on the comparatively modest salary of around £160,000 a year when he bought the house. He also received a further housing allowance from the EU but this was spent on renting a flat in Brussels.

Land Registry records show he paid £2.4 million for his Regent's Park house - or £2.5 million including stamp duty and legal fees. This was almost 16 times his income, a mortgage which even in pre-credit crunch days no lender would contemplate.

It was reported at the time that Mr Mandelson had financed much of the purchase through selling shares in the advertising agency Clemmow Hornby Inge. However, Companies House records obtained by the Standard show that these shares were not sold until June 2007, nearly a year after Mr Mandelson bought his Regent's Park house.

Sources close to Mr Mandelson also claimed at the time that he had been able to finance the purchase with a large legacy from his mother, Mary, who died earlier the same year. However, the Standard has obtained a copy of Mary Mandelson's will, which shows that the amount her son received, though substantial, was nowhere near £2.5 million.

After inheritance tax, the value of her estate was just under £980,000. She left a total of £76,000 to various beneficiaries including the Labour Party, the pressure group Liberty, her daughter-in-law and the nursing home in which she died. The remainder was split between her two sons, leaving Mr Mandelson with just under £452,000.

Probate was granted on 12 July 2006 and Mr Mandelson purchased his Regents Park house almost immediately afterwards, suggesting that he applied the whole sum to the purchase. That still left him almost £2.1 million short.

Could he have found the rest of the money from the equity built up in a decade's dealings in the London property market? Our investigations suggest not. Including the Notting Hill house, he has bought or sold five London properties in the past 10 years (he has lived in more than five homes but the others were temporary accommodation or rented).

Using Land Registry records, we have traced the price Mr Mandelson paid for each of his homes. He made a profit on all of them and an extraordinary profit on one. In August 1999, after selling the Notting Hill house and repaying Mr Robinson in full, he bought a one-bedroomed flat in Pembridge Villas, Notting Hill, for £249,000. Just 19 months later, in March 2001, he sold it for £545,000, a rise of 118 per cent. The average property in the area rose by only 12 per cent over the same period, although part of the difference may be explained by the fact that Mr Mandelson's flat was extensively refurbished under his ownership.

The man who paid Mr Mandelson such a high price was Arthur Bastings, then managing director for northern and central Europe at Turner Broadcasting, the TV arm of the media giant Time Warner. Mr Bastings owns the flat below Mr Mandelson's and it is possible that he was prepared to pay a substantial premium in order to join the two floors together. However, there is no record of any planning application for this. Mr Bastings declined to comment yesterday.

Mr Mandelson's profits on his other transactions were proportionately much smaller. However, the key to estimating how much equity he was able to build up from his dealings depends also on how big a mortgage debt he took each time, and thus how much he had to repay to the lender when he sold each property.

Normally, the amount of a person's mortgage on any property is private. But because of the investigation by the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner into Mr Mandelson's Notting Hill house purchase, we do know that he took out a £150,000 mortgage on it. With this information, it is possible to estimate roughly how much equity he has amassed from each of his five transactions between the Notting Hill house and his purchase of the Regent's Park house in August 2006.

Our calculations show that by August 2006, even assuming Mr Mandelson reinvested the entire profit each time in his next property and took a mortgage only for the remainder, and even assuming he was lucky enough always to get the best possible interest rates and repayment deals, he would have built up equity of between only £700,000 and £840,000.

Adding in his bequest from his mother, that would still have left him between £1.2 million and £1.35 million adrift from the price of his Regent's Park house.

Mr Mandelson did have one other substantial asset, his former constituency home in Hutton Avenue, Hartlepool, which he bought in 1990 for £69,000 and sold in 2005 for £205,000. He sold a country cottage near Ross-on-Wye to buy this house. Even making the - again generous - assumption that the Hartlepool house was fully paid off when he sold it and he was able to bank all the proceeds, that would have left him with between £1 million and £1.15 million to find.

Could this gap have been bridged by a mortage? Land Registry records show that Mr Mandelson has a mortgage, with HSBC, on his Regent's Park home but the amount is not disclosed. The highest mortgage HSBC offered at the time to standard single buyers was four and a half times salary. £1 million is around six and a half times Mr Mandelson's then salary; £1.15 million is seven times.

"As someone with the potential to write high-earning memoirs or get corporate directorships in the future, it is just possible that they could have given him a six-and-a-half or seven times salary mortgage," said one banking expert. "But I still think it very unlikely. I would imagine that as a single man they would have offered him, at most, between four and five times salary."

It was reported in November 2006 that Mr Mandelson had a mortgage of £750,000 on the Regent's Park property, 4.6 times his salary, which would be consistent with this. If this is correct, this would have left him with a last gap to fill of between £250,000 and £400,000.

How could Mr Mandelson could have filled this shortfall? The Standard has examined Mr Mandelson's declarations of interest as an MP between 1992 and 2004 and as a European commissioner between 2004 and last year. As a minister between 1997 and 1998, and again between 1999 and 2001, he was not allowed any paid interests, and declares none. The same applies to his work as a European commissioner between 2004 and 2008.

During his periods as a backbench MP, he lists under "remunerated employment" only modestly-paid work for GQ magazine and speaking engagements. Apart from the ad agency Clemmow Hornby Inge, he registers no other shareholdings or directorships.

The only other source of declared income is his relationship with the French business "fixer," Alain Minc. Between 2002 and 2004 he acted as an "adviser" to Mr Minc's consultancy firm, AM Conseil. Between 2001 and last year Mr Minc was also a board member of Policy Network, a British think-thank and networking organisation of which Mr Mandelson is honorary chair.

Despite employing only three staff - Mr Minc, a secretary and a chauffeur - AM Conseil turned over £5.5 million a year in 2004. According to Mr Minc's biographer, Stephane Marchand, Mr Minc charges up to £150,000 for a consultation to favoured clients and "earns his money selling intelligence and influence." It has never been clear what Mr Mandelson, who does not speak French, did for AM Conseil, or how much he earned.

A spokeswoman for Lord Mandelson yesterday refused to answer when asked if Lord Mandelson had received any gifts or loans, other than his mortgage, to help him buy his Regent's Park house. In a five-word statement, she said that the Standard had "made inaccurate assumptions" but, when pressed, refused to elaborate.
He hasn't been cancelled because he has always sung from the script of Woke Progressive Urban Cultural Elite, indeed some modern historians would argue that he and Blair invented that cultural playbook as it applied to the UK.

As you should know, BIGOT, dishonesty, fraud, money-grubbing, misogyny, classism and cover-ups are all FINE and DANDY as long as you're part of the Progressive Elite and say all of the right Progressive Elite things.

Eat a bit of Colin the Caterpillar whilst being a Tory, on the other hand, and your a is toast, and quite right too, because the Tories are a mildly right of centre British political party an evil group of vile monsters who love nothing more than killing poor people, and you ought to wear a T-shirt reassuring people that you've never kissed one, if you know what's good for you.

Isn't it wonderful? Oh brave new world, that has such people in it!
 
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Starmerbot looking done for, however he has a knack of clinging on like a sticky tit in a public toilet pan.
 
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Don't forget that we now supposedly have the 'Grown ups in Government'.

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(That was the BS myth The Guardian liked to peddle after the 2024 Election result.)
 
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Don't forget that we now supposedly have the 'Grown ups in Government'.

🤣🤣🤣

(That was the BS myth The Guardian liked to peddle after the 2024 Election result.)
Hahhhhaaaa oh yeah I remember that. Didn't Otto English or James O'Brien, one of those horrible old Elite Progressive idiots, tweet something like "it's nice isn't it? The quiet"

U-turn after U-turn, recognising a terrorist state, two tier justice, economic stagnation, pedalo adjacent Mandelson, Weepy Rachel, Big Ange 'five finger discount' Rayner, yeah it's been a very quiet and grown up 18 months
 
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Starmerbot looking done for, however he has a knack of clinging on like a sticky tit in a public toilet pan.
I would rather he stayed. He definitely deserves to go, however absolutely nobody else in the cabinet or upper layers of the party has the merit or skills to be in the positions they're in, let alone be installed as the next PM. They are every single one, fraudsters, chancers, or simply inept and all already promoted well above their stations.
 
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I would rather he stayed. He definitely deserves to go, however absolutely nobody else in the cabinet or upper layers of the party has the merit or skills to be in the positions they're in, let alone be installed as the next PM. They are every single one, fraudsters, chancers, or simply inept and all already promoted well above their stations.
It's like trying to decide which is the best way to die. Simply none.
 
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I would rather he stayed. He definitely deserves to go, however absolutely nobody else in the cabinet or upper layers of the party has the merit or skills to be in the positions they're in, let alone be installed as the next PM. They are every single one, fraudsters, chancers, or simply inept and all already promoted well above their stations.
I'm with you, he probably needs to stay because if an idiot left winger like Eyelashes "grooming gang coverup" Burnham or Big Ange "I'm just in it for the money me" Rayner become PM, the almight tantrum which the bond markets will have will make the Truss Tantrum look like a pleasant stroll in a flowery meadow.

The only other acceptable person would be Wes Streeting, who seems pretty clued up, certainly brave enough to face reality rather than hiding behind a copy of Das Kapital and a big red flag.
 
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(That was the BS myth The Guardian liked to peddle after the 2024 Election result.)
I cringed at all the people who parroted this BS from rags like the Guardian. I did think it would take longer before even the most adamant Guardian fans to realise they'd been made a fool of.

Most have now woken up but will probably still fall for whatever line the Guardian spins next time.
 
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Yel

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I would rather he stayed. He definitely deserves to go, however absolutely nobody else in the cabinet or upper layers of the party has the merit or skills to be in the positions they're in, let alone be installed as the next PM. They are every single one, fraudsters, chancers, or simply inept and all already promoted well above their stations.
Agree I'd rather he stayed. Would be even more of a mess with the power grab of lacklustre people to fill the role.

He should stay to try and redeem himself and they can work on getting someone semi competent to hand over to. But Keir has never done the smart thing.
 
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