Selfloveliv

[Vanilla Sorbet]

That is exactly the case. Normal behaviour for any late teen/early 20s to go out once a week and have a few too many. That does not make you an alcoholic. Granted she’s on meds and any amount of alcohol will affect her differently so perhaps being sober is best for her, but to claim she’s sober because she was an alcoholic is seriously delusional. She’s also never taken drugs so I’m genuinely baffled where that has come from, in fact she was very much anti drugs and judged others for doing them.

She doesn’t have any friends in real life and those she did have she lost for a reason. Can’t always blame things on MH for that...I think she should look within herself and find those reasons and work on herself there. Sometimes people are just not very nice and can’t see past their own ego...and her ego has only gotten worse since getting loads of followers.

Interesting. I think I know a few girls like that!
Do you know that goodlucknic girl too? I LOVE her feed - its very positive. My only issue is her doing weights and lifting whilst pregnant but I am not a midwife or a medical professional in any shape or form and I am assuming she is being careful and consulted with relevant medical professionals.

Her and Liv seem like polar opposites but seem to be very chummy irl. Was that always the case or just a thing that happened as they are both from the same area and have influencer status? Although in fairness Nic is a very small influencer.

 

[Sariassong]

Long time lurker of tattle but thought I would break my silence to articulate some of my opinions for my first post on this dinky lil thread... sorry this is gonna be a long ramble. Apologise as well if I relate this too much to myself and make typos!

I follow Liv and think she seems like a nice but awkward girl. She doesn't come across as malicious and she seems to stay clear of "influencer drama"*. Unfortunately, I think she doesn't really have the drive to have social media as a full time job. She probably spends hours on her feed and engaging with fans but her content is just kinda bland. Her mental health may be a reason for that, too, however - mental health impacts everyone differently and she may struggle to be creative when her moods are low.

On the topic of alcohol issues, I agree that she probably wasn't an alcoholic or drug addict but that doesn't mean she didn't have a problematic relationship with alcohol. As someone with MH issues myself I stay clear of consuming too much alcohol because if I go over a limit then I can really mess myself up mentally. I know a lot of people who are similar to me and some people can easily manage that limit and still drink regularly. Others cannot and anytime they drink they end up in a situation that puts them in danger. Another reason could be that she was too heavily relying on alcoholic and it was easier to cut it out now before it became an addiction/dependence that is harder to manage. Also, medication reacts badly with alcohol and if you're on a lot of meds you're not *really* supposed to drink.

In terms of her ED, I believe she has BED as she claims as a result of never having proper treatment for her bulimia. However, she probably also has (ON TOP OF THE BED) a rather sedentary lifestyle and doesn't keep a balanced diet. I think she wholly bought into the whole self love stuff with "eat cake for breakfast! have mcdonalds every night for dinner! duck it" BS and beginning to accept and love your body and "duck" diet culture (with the support of the bopo movement and her followers) made her gain weight. Instead of reacting badly to it, she accepted it and embraced her body - and honestly, all power to her. I've gained a lot of weight in the past few years because of various reasons (mainly due to an injury and medication) and I really hate it/feel very self conscious, I know it makes me unhealthy and I'd like to change that but seeing bigger girls love their bodies makes me feel less crappy in mine for the time being. But, I think, alongside this "duck diets eat what you want" crap that she is ALSO binging too. A friend of mine had BED and gained 70 lbs in about 5 or 6 months. She would often post pictures on her insta if she was having something indulgent like a takeaway or fancy slice cake but there was a lot more going on behind closed doors. Instead of just having the once slice of cake she would end up binging and eating the whole cake plus whatever else she could get her hands on. Binging is secretive and shameful so of course Liv wouldn't have shared her worst binges and if she did, its because she wouldn't have realised it was binging.

I think even if she is disgusted at herself right now and feeling really shameful that she knows she has an image to uphold and loving her body "flaws n all" fits in with that mentality although I do understand that it seems contradictory if she's seeking help.

The whole mantra of the bopo movement is that people are still of value even if they're disabled/large/ill/unconventional and I think that is great. Showing the raw side of mental illness and that there is no one standard size should be promoted more. However, the community is often used to romanticise unhealthy lifestyles and back people into a corner of blind acceptance of their fate. Recovery and treatment are great and people should be encouraged to seek avenues to help themselves where possible. People should be valued wherever they are in their journeys and not seen as lesser because of it but to keep people at square one or down a path of further destruction because of a false idea of "authenticity" is really harmful. I think the community does this to many young impressionable girls and can often become a further way to hurt, not heal.

I do wish her all the best and I hope if she reads this she doesn't think this is me being nasty for the sake of being nasty, I do enjoy her content for the most but her being out on the public eye means she will have people commenting and speculating about her.

* with the exception of the selfloveclubb/milliekeepsgoing stuff (that I really want to know the tea from).

I also desperately need to know the tea from that fallout!!!!
Thanks for posting this though, I love to hear a different point of view rather than a load of people all joining in the slagging off!

 

[Gossipgirlxoxo25]

Interesting. I think I know a few girls like that!
Do you know that goodlucknic girl too? I LOVE her feed - its very positive. My only issue is her doing weights and lifting whilst pregnant but I am not a midwife or a medical professional in any shape or form and I am assuming she is being careful and consulted with relevant medical professionals.

Her and Liv seem like polar opposites but seem to be very chummy irl. Was that always the case or just a thing that happened as they are both from the same area and have influencer status? Although in fairness Nic is a very small influencer.

I’ve met her a few times but wouldn’t say I know her personally but she seems as lovely as she comes across on social media
Her and Liv were friends all through secondary school, I think that’s their only real connection and reason they’re still “friends” now...but you’re right they don’t have anything in common really!

 

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Back to the hair situation (sorry about the hair blah blah)

Oh and wouldn't it be nice to have all your energy to just worry about vlogmas and social media. Ffs I cant even afford the bloody have heating or hot water till Monday due to an unexpected outgoing (ended up needing medications and cost over £40 for all the items as I don't have regular meds so have no pre payment)

Oh to only have vlogmas to worry about

 

[MyLittlePony25]

Back to the hair situation (sorry about the hair blah blah)

Oh and wouldn't it be nice to have all your energy to just worry about vlogmas and social media. Ffs I cant even afford the bloody have heating or hot water till Monday due to an unexpected outgoing (ended up needing medications and cost over £40 for all the items as I don't have regular meds so have no pre payment)

Oh to only have vlogmas to worry about

I know how you feel. Had to use a food bank last week, bills aren’t being payed so I refuse to put my heating on and I’m just layering up. Hope you are ok xx

 

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I know how you feel. Had to use a food bank last week, bills aren’t being payed so I refuse to put my heating on and I’m just layering up. Hope you are ok xx

Thank you

Im okay, just layering up and doing what I can. Hope you're okay too.

Let's all take a moment on this Saturday morning to think about whats important.....in livs case....YouTube and Instagram content

 

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Why does she insist on doing this....

 

[Misssj80]

Why does she insist on doing this....

and says she is living her best life when last week she said she had an eating disorder, not sure the two go together??

 

[ChampagneBox]

Why does she insist on doing this....

Maybe they’re not being rude, just telling you a few home truths about the reality of life for every other person in this country who has to deal with metal demons but also have a job, family, home?? Grow up and stop projecting your tit onto everyone else

 

[StillMe]

Showing her true colours recently. She comes across as demanding and self centred. She's not happy or confident, she just cant take criticism of any kind. Feel sorry for that bloke of hers.

 

[Squirrelfriend]

What was the dancing in a bin bag all about ? I half expect her to be in a clown suit some
days just for the attention and laughs .

 

[MyLittlePony25]

She can’t make up her mind whether she is living her best life or living with an eating disorder. She has built her life around having a mental illness and now I guess she knows that all the while she speaks about eating disorders she will keep her followers but when she talks about living her best life they lose interest. Unfortunately people love misery, it’s more interesting!

 

[StillMe]

Not really sure what the self gratification, honey boo boo bull tit is all about. Congratulations, you stopped working, you make videos about how eating nothing but junk is ok, vile sex stories and rather unpleasant underwear pictures. If I remember correctly, leaving retail wasnt by choice, but down to redundancy. Shes actually quite aggressive when she is told how unhealthy she is. Not sure she knows what a vegetable is.

 

[MyLittlePony25]

Definitely not and now she has just found McDonald’s delivers to her area, the closest thing to a vegetable she is going to eat is fries

 

[JellyWobbles]

She keeps cropping up in my explore feed and I do a huge eye roll everytime. I can’t comment on her personally as I don’t follow her but I have been on her page a few times; I really don’t like the BoPo movement as it seems to be right now.. large women telling people it’s okay to be large whilst eye bleeping themselves on camera constantly. I’m plus size myself, and these influencers I find toxic it is one thing to feel comfortable in your own skin - nobody should be shamed for their body large thin disabled whatever - but it seems to be mainly hostile large women telling others it’s okay to be this way, that it doesn’t have an impact on health (yeah right), yet they’re so body positive as soon as someone has lost weight from making healthier choices they’ll completely rip them down. It’s so so so toxic.
I also think these type of influencers are very very self indulgent. & You don’t need to keep posting pictures of yourself telling everyone you love yourself, you can do that just fine by not posting. Hope my rant made sense lol

 

[flamingo]

She keeps cropping up in my explore feed and I do a huge eye roll everytime. I can’t comment on her personally as I don’t follow her but I have been on her page a few times; I really don’t like the BoPo movement as it seems to be right now.. large women telling people it’s okay to be large whilst eye bleeping themselves on camera constantly. I’m plus size myself, and these influencers I find toxic it is one thing to feel comfortable in your own skin - nobody should be shamed for their body large thin disabled whatever - but it seems to be mainly hostile large women telling others it’s okay to be this way, that it doesn’t have an impact on health (yeah right), yet they’re so body positive as soon as someone has lost weight from making healthier choices they’ll completely rip them down. It’s so so so toxic.
I also think these type of influencers are very very self indulgent. & You don’t need to keep posting pictures of yourself telling everyone you love yourself, you can do that just fine by not posting. Hope my rant made sense lol

Totally agree. What she is doing is not 'normalising' anything; she's making a spectacle out of herself. There's plenty of brilliant, inspiring plus-size bloggers out there who don't prance around in their underwear posting the same rehashed caption about how much they love themselves. Thou doth protest too much Liv. I genuinely hope she gets the help she needs.

 

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Honey boo boo

I'd still be working in retail, and that tit....

Nice to see she is respectful of others. Retail workers have worked their arses off this year and here is this hole slating them as tit.

I'd rather work in retail than making an unsteady income of jiggling my belly, attention seeking and talking to a camera

 

[Sariassong]

Honey boo boo

I'd still be working in retail, and that tit....

Nice to see she is respectful of others. Retail workers have worked their arses off this year and here is this hole slating them as tit.

I'd rather work in retail than making an unsteady income of jiggling my belly, attention seeking and talking to a camera

I remember when she worked in retail, I really felt for her colleagues because its a thankless job and the only thing that makes it bearable sometimes is the people you work with, the teamwork and comraderie. She was very very part time as I remember and found that difficult.
Now, I'm not having a go at people with social anxiety, but retail work would quite obviously be excruciating if you suffer from it so why do it and make your colleagues pull up the slack??
And then if you do leave because you're not suited to it then good for you but don't then gloat all over social media that you've somehow taken a step up in life by jiggling your belly around.
Sorry if this isn't very coherent but it riles me!!

 

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I remember when she worked in retail, I really felt for her colleagues because its a thankless job and the only thing that makes it bearable sometimes is the people you work with, the teamwork and comraderie. She was very very part time as I remember and found that difficult.
Now, I'm not having a go at people with social anxiety, but retail work would quite obviously be excruciating if you suffer from it so why do it and make your colleagues pull up the slack??
And then if you do leave because you're not suited to it then good for you but don't then gloat all over social media that you've somehow taken a step up in life by jiggling your belly around.
Sorry if this isn't very coherent but it riles me!!

I completely understand.

I honestly think she is one of those who is developing into an instacunt. All the bragging about giving up work, slating her tit retail job. Im sure she wasn't slating retail workers when she was in poundland and b&m getting unnecessary things for her youtube

 

[Vanilla Sorbet]

I remember when she worked in retail, I really felt for her colleagues because its a thankless job and the only thing that makes it bearable sometimes is the people you work with, the teamwork and comraderie. She was very very part time as I remember and found that difficult.
Now, I'm not having a go at people with social anxiety, but retail work would quite obviously be excruciating if you suffer from it so why do it and make your colleagues pull up the slack??
And then if you do leave because you're not suited to it then good for you but don't then gloat all over social media that you've somehow taken a step up in life by jiggling your belly around.
Sorry if this isn't very coherent but it riles me!!

Yup. Totally agree - I worked in retail and gave it my 100% and I was good at it, legit, but I was in a constant state of burnout. After leaving to work in an office (still with a heavy focus on customer service) my mental health improved massively.

I feel a lot of empathy towards retail workers. That tit is HARD. I never complain even if service has been bad because I know how toxic the environment is. Urgh, retail can be tit but in a year where retail workers have put themselves on the line day in day out they definitely deserve more respect than to brush off their work with a humblebrag.