I'm talking about the arguments that aren't rumours but confirmed through videos. They're all over YouTube. Of course a married couple would argue but the way Justin treats her sometimes is horribleTo be fair Justin has been through the fame ringer since his mid teens, I think he’s a home bird now and doesn’t like leaving the house/being anywhere paps are/out and about for that reason alone. It’s clear to see the whole fame thing makes him very anxious now, which would make anyone unhappy when they can’t go anywhere without having a camera shoved in their face or hidden in a bush.
Also, I maybb remembering wrong but I’m sure both Hailey and Justin have debunked the “argument” videos, as well as the fact it would be absolutely absurd to think a married couple of 5 years never argue. Also, the general couple don’t have a camera following them whenever they’re out of the house. If a camera followed me and my partner out and about whenever we bicker and no one ever got to see what happens behind closed doors I’m sure everyone would say we shouldn’t be together either
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I always find it so interesting that people perceive constant arguing as normal. My parents argue all the time and the way they talk to each other is so rude and disrespectful that I have no idea why they haven’t had couples counselling or something. Then 10 minutes later they act like nothing happened.
Meanwhile my fiancé and I have been together for nearly 10 years and I can count the amount of arguments we’ve had on one hand.
People just seem to lack the ability to communicate well with their partners.
I know this isn’t a Hailey and Justin thread but have to say this when I said about normal arguing I don’t mean constant cause that’s not healthy and I never said that is ok. I meant more like not always agreeing on things or things not always being perfect cause life throws problems at all of us. That being said I do get the impression their marriage had issues at the beginning cause he had not dealt with his own issues and I don’t get why they rushed into it. I’m speaking as someone who’s parents are happily married a long time and love each other yes majority of the time things have been really good between them but at the same time they’re not perfect there’s moments over the years the stresses of life or just typical moments whatever can make things not always easy between 2 people but like in any relationship if it’s not toxic people can say sorry and make up.
That’s what I meant as in I don’t expect Justin and Hailey to never argue but at the same time like I said in my other post there have been moments when he doesn’t come across well in public how he’s treated her or in some videos the way he’s spoke about her is odd but because we don’t see behind closed it’s hard to know if things are always like that or not.
That’s what I meant as in I don’t expect Justin and Hailey to never argue but at the same time like I said in my other post there have been moments when he doesn’t come across well in public how he’s treated her or in some videos the way he’s spoke about her is odd but because we don’t see behind closed it’s hard to know if things are always like that or not.
I think the differences between disagreements and arguments is how respectfully you handle the others opinions. And of course not being aggressive or yelling at them.
And I can disagree with my partner at times (and we will deal with that privately not on public walks) but that doesn’t translate to the outbursts we see in public and the way he behaves isn’t very respectful to her at all. If he thinks it’s okay to act up in public I dread to think how he treats her behind closed doors.
Honestly Selena dodged a bullet - Justin honestly seems like trash to me.
And I can disagree with my partner at times (and we will deal with that privately not on public walks) but that doesn’t translate to the outbursts we see in public and the way he behaves isn’t very respectful to her at all. If he thinks it’s okay to act up in public I dread to think how he treats her behind closed doors.
Honestly Selena dodged a bullet - Justin honestly seems like trash to me.
It’s good that you haven’t learnt from that and carried it into your own relationship. I grew up around toxic relationships and it filtered into my past relationships when I was younger. Gladly now I’m older and wiser and have been in a healthy relationship for years where it’s safe and there’s no drama it’s so peaceful and ‘normal’
.. I think once a couple lose respect for each other and talk to or treat each other badly then they will never get that respect back and it’ll always happen when there’s a disagreement.Completely agree with you
Could you link these please? The only one I’ve heard of is the one where Hailey has mentioned he was expressing something excitedly but everyone took it as an argument.
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Tattle has a limit on videos. It won't let me post more than 4 so here's some awkward moments instead. I'm sure they have good times together but imagine living with someone who treated you like this. The little things add up. Some videos do look like they've been taken out of context.
He seems immature though eg the video of him hitting her and punching her ass while she's trying to walk. Or commenting humiliating things on her photos eg "are those your knees or your bits" implying she has a small chest
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Interesting! He does seem like he hasn’t mentally matured in the humour department past the age of 14
. I think calling it “abuse” or “arguments” is a stretch though (I know you didn’t but going off the video titles). He does seems like hard work and was probably always hard work I’d imagine. (This next but isn’t aimed at you, just talking generally)
I do find it very odd the amount of people that are praying for the downfall of their relationship though, it does make me think that’s why they’re over exaggerating things like what was shown in those videos and making it seem as though they’re in the worst relationship ever. With the way Justin seems to be now as a person, I don’t think he’d seem happy with anyone to the general public anymore because he seems super over it. Not even Selena.
Selena always posts old selfies of herself and pretends she just took the photo. Fan pages of her and people who are big fans of her even leave comments saying she posted this years ago , I’ve this pic of her saved from when she posted it years ago etc and I just find it odd that Selena acts like it’s a recent photo of herself. Of course she can post what she wants not a big deal but at the same it’s just an odd thing she does a lot is it cause she’s that insecure? some other people have noticed her eyes and nose looks different now and her eyebrows are different now too so it’s easy to tell she doesn’t look like that anymore.
Don’t get me wrong she’s allowed get work done that’s her choice but I really think she’s very insecure and is desperately using social media more and more for validation. Constantly posting selfies constantly needing an ego boost in a way is sad. Yeah everyone who uses social media posts photos of themselves I get that but I think she comes across addicted to instagram like she’s unhappy within herself and uses the app to make her feel better which I think can be an unhealthy thing to do. As much as there’s thing I don’t like about her she’s not going to ever feel better mentally if she is using social media for validation. I’ve said it a lot but I think it would be better for her mind and reputation if she wasn’t on it that much cause I find myself when I’m not on it that much it helps.
Don’t get me wrong she’s allowed get work done that’s her choice but I really think she’s very insecure and is desperately using social media more and more for validation. Constantly posting selfies constantly needing an ego boost in a way is sad. Yeah everyone who uses social media posts photos of themselves I get that but I think she comes across addicted to instagram like she’s unhappy within herself and uses the app to make her feel better which I think can be an unhealthy thing to do. As much as there’s thing I don’t like about her she’s not going to ever feel better mentally if she is using social media for validation. I’ve said it a lot but I think it would be better for her mind and reputation if she wasn’t on it that much cause I find myself when I’m not on it that much it helps.
“All” is a massive stretch. Her cringe desperation for a boyfriend isn’t anything to do with her disability
Her desperation for a boyfriend , her desperation to get married, playing the victim constantly, has to let everyone know all the time that she’s so nice and so happy single but clearly isn’t cause that’s all she talks about , can’t sing and gets annoyed when people realise this , being an attention seeker , still in love with her ex not over him ( in my opinion) and has found any way possible to remind him of her, get her name still connected to him through drama, get hate sent to his wife probably cause she’s bitter towards him still so might feel good to her when anything to with his life gets hate ( yes Justin and Hailey are not perfect or innocent either, I’m sure things they’ve done have hurt Selena but right now I’m just speaking about Selena) and uses lupus and mental health as a way to get away with weird behaviour and anything she does wrong.View attachment 2493579
“All” is a massive stretch. Her cringe desperation for a boyfriend isn’t anything to do with her disability
Not saying she isn’t allowed have her struggles cause life is tough but she’s very immature for a 31 year old woman it’s cringe. Yes she’s achieved success with rare beauty and fair play to her for using her fame and wealth in a smart way cause I’d like to think anyone in her shoes would do the same thing especially if you know you’re not that talented when it comes to anything else. I’m not saying she’s the worst person in the world I’m sure she has her good qualities and moments too but unfortunately that’s all over shadowed by the weird things she says and does. She can be sly and something very off about her but unfortunately not everyone realises this so she gets away with doing what she wants.
She gets away with it because the most vocal fans at the minute are the generations brought up by the new wave internet that get offended by absolutely anything, spread toxic positivity, and can’t understand not everything has a dark sinister ulterior motive. Fair enough if someone is saying something genuinely discriminating, but they don’t understand the difference and will rally to attack and destroy anyone who doesn’t like their fave. You should be able to have a innocent chinwag and gossip without worrying you’re going to be called ableist, racist, misogynistic, etc. when you’ve said nothing of the sort!
You’re right that’s why she gets away with it. Her fans who are obsessed with her who will go crazy if you point the truth out about her they honestly need some help mentally cause to be that defensive over someone who doesn’t actually care about them is weird cause if we’re being honest she’s going to say she loves her fans cause without them she wouldn’t be rich with a famous career. Yeah if people were making fun of an illness or her weight then yeah I’d be like that’s messed up nobody should be spoke of like that but when people are just calling out the weird sly things she says and does then good for them for seeing through her bs and calling her out for it instead of praising her for it. Honestly the world we live in today has is crazy cause even just giving your one opinion you’ll be called all these names. Exactly people should be allowed gossip and point out the truth about somebody without being made feel like they’re wrong for that doing that.
Selena is embarrassing there was absolutely no need for her to comment on this TikTok at at all she could easily of ignored it. Also yes there might be some interviews celebrities do when they’re asked a personal question that catches them off guard but a lot of the time questions are approved by the celebrity and their team beforehand so in these interviews Selena does she has approved of the topic of Justin being brought up.
Look at the amount of time she’s spoke about her relationship with him since things ended in 2018 she is clearly not over him at all and she wants to still talk about her relationship with him I don’t know if it’s cause she’s bitter about things ending or if she’s mad at him so wants to keep associating his name with hers so that he’s still reminded of her or if she’s so unhappy in her life that she doesn’t have a boyfriend and isn’t married so keeps talking about her relationship with Justin cause she can’t get over the fact he didn’t marry her but either way I don’t understand why she is that desperate to keep the conversation about her relationship with him still going when she should want her name associated to any work she does she should want to be known for that and talk about that but instead most people think of Justin and Hailey when they hear Selenas name.
I get that Selena has super fans who are obsessed and do way too much at times but Selena is responsible for a lot of that she starts drama , releases songs saying she was replaced after 2 months , says she was emotionally abused by Justin and has liked tiktoks about Hailey ‘bullying’ her. She has encouraged her fans many times. In no way am I saying Hailey and Justin are perfect and innocent they’ve all done things that are odd but Selena is on another level she needs to stop and get over him already.
Look at the amount of time she’s spoke about her relationship with him since things ended in 2018 she is clearly not over him at all and she wants to still talk about her relationship with him I don’t know if it’s cause she’s bitter about things ending or if she’s mad at him so wants to keep associating his name with hers so that he’s still reminded of her or if she’s so unhappy in her life that she doesn’t have a boyfriend and isn’t married so keeps talking about her relationship with Justin cause she can’t get over the fact he didn’t marry her but either way I don’t understand why she is that desperate to keep the conversation about her relationship with him still going when she should want her name associated to any work she does she should want to be known for that and talk about that but instead most people think of Justin and Hailey when they hear Selenas name.
I get that Selena has super fans who are obsessed and do way too much at times but Selena is responsible for a lot of that she starts drama , releases songs saying she was replaced after 2 months , says she was emotionally abused by Justin and has liked tiktoks about Hailey ‘bullying’ her. She has encouraged her fans many times. In no way am I saying Hailey and Justin are perfect and innocent they’ve all done things that are odd but Selena is on another level she needs to stop and get over him already.
I don’t mind her releasing music that mentioned/references their past since pain is art and all that, it’s the liking of the comments and making the sly digs and then claiming she’s all for love that pisses me off. You can’t have your cake and eat it, either openly be a petty witch and rock that or remain a whimsical (I love everyone) goody two shoes. Bouncing between the two of those and crying when you get called out is annoying and boring.
Yeah I should of phrased that better , I don’t mind her or anyone releasing music cause sometimes the songs are art and can be very good too but what I meant was if she’s going to release a song talking about her past relationship in a negative way saying she was replaced then of course her super fans are going to jump on that and be mad at Justin and hailey. So when Selena releases a song like that or anything she knows her super fans are going to react a certain way. I find it sly when she acts all innocent.
I completely agree with everything you said she really does bounce between the two of those and when she gets called out she plays the victim.
She released that song shortly after the break-up when she was still hurt, why bring this up now, years after she released that song?
I don’t think you’re taking what I said the right way. Firstly there’s no law that says you can’t bring up someone’s song they released after a certain amount of time. Also in many of my previous posts I’ve spoke about empathy I’ve had for her when she was hurt during that time and I’ve acknowledged why songs like that are written I understand the art and being able to express how you feel that’s not what I have any problem with but if you’re going to release a song talking about being replaced by your famous ex then you have to expect people who are fans of you will hear that song and dislike your ex cause they’re not going to hear those lyrics and go I’m so happy for her for being replaced , they’re going to immediately feel sorry for her of course cause being replaced is hurtful.
Those same super fans are going to express some sort of dislike towards Justin and the person that replaced Selena which is Hailey. Selena was aware that would happen by releasing that song same way when Taylor swift released a song about her ex in all too well people figured out who that was and expressed dislike towards him. I’m not saying these men don’t deserve that or that they’re innocent but I’m just saying anything these celebrities say or do will have that kind of reaction.
I’ve said many times I get why selena was hurt at that time of course she’s human I wouldn’t wish for anyone to feel replaced and hurt but it’s been years now and she still refers to that relationship, wants to talk about it by liking things and commenting and approving of questions about it in interviews. Yeah that’s her choice but in my opinion she does herself not favours because she should want to be associated with the work she’s doing now the good things she’s achieved and not pay any attention to anything that brings up her ex. She said after she released the song lose you to love me that was her closure she was never going to speak about that part of her life again but she still is. I’m not saying someone’s past can be erased or that it’s easy to just forget but I just think she can be sly and for her sake needs to let it go.
If you’re a big Selena fan that’s fine but no point being on this thread if you don’t like seeing different opinions. You could easily skip over my posts.
Also Selena posted this 3 months ago so clearly she’s fine with her song still being discussed and brought up when she’s bringing it up
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Relax lol just because I questioned you doesn't mean I can't be on a thread if I choose to be here?
I agree and disagree with your point, if that interview particularly she was simply referring to a 'past relationship'. I do it, you do it, most people at some point refer to their 'ex' when having a conversation, doesn't mean we are still not over them. That being said, she does add fuel to the fire by engaging with tiktoks and comments about it.
I don't really care for it either way if I'm honest
I will like petty posts sometimes too 
It's her super fans who need help imo
I agree and disagree with your point, if that interview particularly she was simply referring to a 'past relationship'. I do it, you do it, most people at some point refer to their 'ex' when having a conversation, doesn't mean we are still not over them. That being said, she does add fuel to the fire by engaging with tiktoks and comments about it.
I don't really care for it either way if I'm honest
I will like petty posts sometimes too It's her super fans who need help imo