Selena Gomez

[account70032]

Don't really know much about her other than who she hangs out with.

Saw the documentary and found it very eye roll inducing. Like when she starts crying because she's apparently worried that she didn't do her sing good and the exec would be disappointed that he signed a dumb Disney kid. Then half a dozen people and the exec reassure that she did do her sing good. Didn't seem genuine.

Presumably her team had sign off on it all (unlike the epic totally Scott Lee).

That crying scene you’re talking about really didn’t seem genuine. Was she even actually upset cause it sounded like she was putting on a sad voice trying to force tears while knowing the camera was filming her. I don’t think that documentary was that good it seemed too staged in certain parts and not natural like she tried to make out like it was. Before anyone even tries to say you’re hating on her you’re a Hailey fan lol I’m not hating on anyone or an obsessed fan of either of them but I just think there’s things Selena does that are weird and wrong which she should be called out for cause anytime anyone tries call her out for something or tell her she’s wrong she plays victim and her fans don’t want to accept the woman isn’t an angel.

@OmgObsessed Selena has to be one of the most attention seeking celebrities there is. Using her fans the way she does is wrong I agree. I’m not sure if it’s cause she’s desperate for attention or very insecure and jealous of other people or maybe it’s just a mixture of all those things but it does across like it makes her feel better about herself when she can get her fans to hate on another woman’s appearance and give her all the compliments instead. Hailey is obviously Justin’s wife so by people hating on Hailey it’s like a way for Selena to get at Justin like look all these people hate your wife and think I’m better so it’s your loss. It’s like it gives her a confidence boost which is sad cause she should be moved on focusing on her own life. I’m not saying Selena is the worst person in the world cause there’s been times I’ve thought she’s come across fine or I’ve felt sorry for her but then when I look at things from a different angle I realise she isn’t always as genuine and innocent as her PR team want us to believe.

 

[Sickofit2022]

At least Demi Lovato is honest about snorting more coke than Aerosmith in the 90’s.

Sorta weird to have this curated image, be real babe.

 

[missjagger]

Plain and attention seeking

 

[redstraw16]

stupid it’s got to this point, bored of hearing about it.

 

[Yupyupyup]

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stupid it’s got to this point, bored of hearing about it.

Genuinely surprised Hailey waited this long before reaching out for help. Glad Selena finally name dropped though instead of beating around the bush

 

[Folkevermore]

Regardless of who’s in the wrong or whatever, I still can’t believe people send death threats these days? People on the internet are so pathetic

 

[dodo789]

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stupid it’s got to this point, bored of hearing about it.

This is such a weird post…she’s chronically online, I don’t believe she didn’t know what was going on. To me, it reads like Hailey should be thankful to Selena because she’s putting this message out. IDK, she could have just say, they had a conversation about this or something but now Selena can play the hero (again) when she was liking tiktok comments and doing other people to feed the drama for weeks now

 

[Yupyupyup]

Haileys response.

 

[Bowbow82]

There’s no winners in this scenario. No matter what either of them do it’s scrutinised.

Personally, I don’t care much for Hayley, I think she’s weird. There’s too many stalker type things I’ve seen on TikTok but I do feel sorry for her because I’d hate to have that doubt if my husband would prefer to be with his ex.

Also Selena is everywhere right now, that must be a massive head duck.

Justin is nowhere to be seen though, I wonder if he thrives on the drama?

 

[account70032]

What I don’t like is Selena blaming everything on her fans and everyone else and never taking accountability for the drama and hate she causes and encourages. I find it very fake that she’s acting all concerned and friendly towards Hailey now yet was happily liking and commenting tiktoks that were hating on Hailey and kylie. She’s had WEEKS and only chooses to speak out now? if she hadn’t commented on all those tiktoks it would not of reached this level.

It seems to me she was enjoying the hate Hailey and Justin were receiving like it was a way for her to get at Justin cause it’s clear she still holds resentment and anger towards him as well as not being over him. I’m not big fans of any of these people cause they’re all wrong and weird in their own way and there’s more important things in the world to worry about but I hate how Selena always makes herself the victim somehow and never apologises for sitting back doing nothing letting drama and hate unfold that she played a huge part in supporting and encouraging.

Her fans saw she was bothered by things Hailey and Kylie were saying and doing so therefore the fans jumped to her defence which obviously wasn’t needed that much in the first place as there was no need for drama at all. For years Selena did interviews talking about how hurt she was being replaced in her relationship with Justin , how Justin emotionally abused her apparently and her song lose you to love me talks about how she was replaced with Hailey and how much pain it caused her so obviously her fans hear all of this and are going to have negative feelings towards Justin and Hailey because of how Selena feels cause that’s how influenced huge fans can be they listen and follow to everything the celebrity says and feels. If Selena said she hates the colour blue , her fans would start hating the colour blue so if Selena doesn’t want people feeling a certain way and being influenced by her maybe she should be careful with what she puts out into the world cause she talks about how she only advocates for kindness yet has thanked her fans multiple times for having her back and for making tiktoks hyping her up and putting other women down.

I think she gets away with causing drama and problems cause she blames it completely on others and for once I wish she would take accountability cause she uses social media she’s quite active on it so there’s no way she’s not seen the amount of hate towards Hailey.

 

[GrilledCheese]

Put yourself in Selena's position for a second. If you see people who you were once friends with blatantly mocking you online, and people in the comments are saying it's about you, how hurt would you feel?? It would be hard to ignore. She will also have had hundreds of people tagging her in those kind of posts to let her know.

IMO Hailey and the Jenners were being complete witches and this time it backfired. Why should Selena have to run to her defense?

Forget that she's famous for a second. Would you stand up for the girl who is currently married to your ex, and constantly talks tit about you

 

[Bowbow82]

Put yourself in Selena's position for a second. If you see people who you were once friends with blatantly mocking you online, and people in the comments are saying it's about you, how hurt would you feel?? It would be hard to ignore. She will also have had hundreds of people tagging her in those kind of posts to let her know.

IMO Hailey and the Jenners were being complete witches and this time it backfired. Why should Selena have to run to her defense?

Forget that she's famous for a second. Would you stand up for the girl who is currently married to your ex, and constantly talks tit about you

Selena or her PR team have played a blinder here as she comes across as the bigger person in this circus. If I was Selena, I wouldn’t have posted it as I don’t give a duck about my ex’s gf or her feelings. If my ex’s gf was as obsessed with me as Hailey is about Selena and was constantly throwing sly digs and shade, I’d leave it and not comment. Hailey has dug her own hole over the years and I’d bet money on it that Hailey’s PR and team realised that the sales from Rhode would tank too considering how many followers she lost the last few weeks, famous people unfollowed her too.

Selena comes across well, maybe that’s brilliant PR but Hailey isn’t on her level. If you said the name Selena, you’d know who she is, you can’t say the same about Hayley. She’s only known now because she’s Justin’s wife which is sad for her.

 

[account70032]

Anyone who would body shame Selena or anyone is wrong 100% and there has been unkind things people who are friends with Hailey have said about selena which is so messed up and not needed. I understand wanting to defend yourself and feeling hurt and like I said before the eyebrow post from Kylie and Hailey aswell as some other posts could easily be see as them being witchy towards selena and shame on them if that’s the case cause selena didn’t deserve that.

of course she has the right to feel hurt or defend herself and her friends but she’s not always innocent in all this every single time yet her fans try to make her out like she is and sometimes she needs to take accountability for things is the point I was making.

after 5 years of not being with an ex I would be moved on and not write songs about the ex about him replacing me with a girl , not give interviews for years talking about the ex replacing me and not commenting on TikToks that are hating on my ex’s wife encouraging the hate. I would like to think I would be moved on with my life instead of giving any time and energy to irrelevant people who are no longer part of my life.

Selena has a successful makeup brand , her career is going well and thankfully her health seems to ok at the moment to so she should be so focused on all of that instead of being on social media getting involved in drama I’d just ignore all of it’s stupid and pointless not worth my time cause I’d be so moved on. Hailey is probably worried about her skincare brand losing business so is hoping Selena posting all that will make Hailey look good again but if I were Selena I never would of gave my time to any of the drama. Selena needs to think about her mental health and her reputation. She’s built a career for herself she’s achieving things that other celebrities are jealous they haven’t achieved the same success. If I were Selena I would be distancing myself so much from Justin and Hailey not talking about them , not following Hailey. Selena should want people to think of her career when they hear her name not her ex and Hailey.

 

[Yupyupyup]

Personally I think everyone is just chronically online. There’s no proof and none of anything is “coincidence’s”. Everything that’s been stated as “fact” online and even in this thread at times is purely speculation and people running with things they’re seeing on tiktok which is extremely scary and naive. No one has the ability to critically think anymore.
They’re all a bunch of basic witch girls who has nothing spectacularly unique about them. The internet just wanted a new women to hate on for the month and Hailey was the one with the unfortunate timing, and with the help of Selena perpetuating and fuelling the drama fire.

 

[Bowbow82]

Anyone who would body shame Selena or anyone is wrong 100% and there has been unkind things people who are friends with Hailey have said about selena which is so messed up and not needed. I understand wanting to defend yourself and feeling hurt and like I said before the eyebrow post from Kylie and Hailey aswell as some other posts could easily be see as them being witchy towards selena and shame on them if that’s the case cause selena didn’t deserve that.

of course she has the right to feel hurt or defend herself and her friends but she’s not always innocent in all this every single time yet her fans try to make her out like she is and sometimes she needs to take accountability for things is the point I was making.

after 5 years of not being with an ex I would be moved on and not write songs about the ex about him replacing me with a girl , not give interviews for years talking about the ex replacing me and not commenting on TikToks that are hating on my ex’s wife encouraging the hate. I would like to think I would be moved on with my life instead of giving any time and energy to irrelevant people who are no longer part of my life.

Selena has a successful makeup brand , her career is going well and thankfully her health seems to ok at the moment to so she should be so focused on all of that instead of being on social media getting involved in drama I’d just ignore all of it’s stupid and pointless not worth my time cause I’d be so moved on. Hailey is probably worried about her skincare brand losing business so is hoping Selena posting all that will make Hailey look good again but if I were Selena I never would of gave my time to any of the drama. Selena needs to think about her mental health and her reputation. She’s built a career for herself she’s achieving things that other celebrities are jealous they haven’t achieved the same success. If I were Selena I would be distancing myself so much from Justin and Hailey not talking about them , not following Hailey. Selena should want people to think of her career when they hear her name not her ex and Hailey.

I agree with some of your points but one thing isn’t being talked about enough is how Justin has escaped all of the scrutiny, he could also shut a lot of this down and stick up for his WIFE. Maybe I’m reaching and have spent my sick day in bed on tik tok but Selena had a song ‘ghost of you’ and then Justin years later brought a similar one out when he was already married to Hailey. If I was Hailey, I’d be like wtf. It’s like coded messages.

I get that it’s a PR dream that their songs are meant to be like ping pong (if you get me) but he doesn’t help by releasing music that would make the fans start to speculate. There’s also lots of footage on YouTube of how he treats Hailey, some of it may be angled that way but he’s problematic. What I’d love to know if I could have the answer to any question is why did he get married to Hailey so fast after breaking up with Selena?

 

[account70032]

I agree with some of your points but one thing isn’t being talked about enough is how Justin has escaped all of the scrutiny, he could also shut a lot of this down and stick up for his WIFE. Maybe I’m reaching and have spent my sick day in bed on tik tok but Selena had a song ‘ghost of you’ and then Justin years later brought a similar one out when he was already married to Hailey. If I was Hailey, I’d be like wtf. It’s like coded messages.

I get that it’s a PR dream that their songs are meant to be like ping pong (if you get me) but he doesn’t help by releasing music that would make the fans start to speculate. There’s also lots of footage on YouTube of how he treats Hailey, some of it may be angled that way but he’s problematic. What I’d love to know if I could have the answer to any question is why did he get married to Hailey so fast after breaking up with Selena?

How on earth justin escaped so much scrutiny confuses me too. All the hate goes towards his wife and maybe in his mind he prefers her to get the hate so that he gets away with things or doesn’t have to speak out. Yeah for years some of the names of songs or lyrics do sound like coded messages and if they are their way of speaking to eachother its weird because selena will never move on if she does that and also he’s married so he should know certain things he says are going to look a certain way and come across disrespectful. That whole situation between the three of them is weird.

So many other celebrities have been in relationships with someone for years and it ends and they move on and they don’t associate with their ex anymore or do/say anything that would involve their ex or make people talk about the ex but with these three the drama is always back and forth. They can’t put out songs and interviews talking about their ex etc and then not expect fans to feel a certain way or talk about it. Exactly I get with artists nowadays they write these kind of songs as it’s like the PR dream and these songs with drama can be popular but it’s not healthy and it fuels drama so then when celebrities complain about drama they need to take accountability for what they’re putting out there.

Obviously no relationship/marriage is perfect so I’ve no idea what their relationship is like behind closed doors but I also think he’s problematic , immature and hard work. She signed up for that marrying him cause she knew being his wife would give her more of a career but I can imagine he’s not easy to live with.

If Selena or Justin could actually publicly say why him and Selena ended things in 2018 and why he got married so fast right after to Hailey maybe then the world would have answers and the whole situation could end. Writing songs hinting about things and doing interviews implying things but not actually saying what happened of course fans are going to speculate and they probably always will. Yeah people can say that’s their private business they don’t have to share the reasons but they’ve no problem sharing everything else. I doubt we’ll ever get an answer for that question. Also Selena following Hailey is not good for her mind cause now she’ll be seeing all these posts of Justin and Hailey loved up which might spiral her again so I don’t get why she isn’t looking out for her mental health.

 

[Bowbow82]

How on earth justin escaped so much scrutiny confuses me too. All the hate goes towards his wife and maybe in his mind he prefers her to get the hate so that he gets away with things or doesn’t have to speak out. Yeah for years some of the names of songs or lyrics do sound like coded messages and if they are their way of speaking to eachother its weird because selena will never move on if she does that and also he’s married so he should know certain things he says are going to look a certain way and come across disrespectful. That whole situation between the three of them is weird.

So many other celebrities have been in relationships with someone for years and it ends and they move on and they don’t associate with their ex anymore or do/say anything that would involve their ex or make people talk about the ex but with these three the drama is always back and forth. They can’t put out songs and interviews talking about their ex etc and then not expect fans to feel a certain way or talk about it. Exactly I get with artists nowadays they write these kind of songs as it’s like the PR dream and these songs with drama can be popular but it’s not healthy and it fuels drama so then when celebrities complain about drama they need to take accountability for what they’re putting out there.

Obviously no relationship/marriage is perfect so I’ve no idea what their relationship is like behind closed doors but I also think he’s problematic , immature and hard work. She signed up for that marrying him cause she knew being his wife would give her more of a career but I can imagine he’s not easy to live with.

If Selena or Justin could actually publicly say why him and Selena ended things in 2018 and why he got married so fast right after to Hailey maybe then the world would have answers and the whole situation could end. Writing songs hinting about things and doing interviews implying things but not actually saying what happened of course fans are going to speculate and they probably always will. Yeah people can say that’s their private business they don’t have to share the reasons but they’ve no problem sharing everything else. I doubt we’ll ever get an answer for that question. Also Selena following Hailey is not good for her mind cause now she’ll be seeing all these posts of Justin and Hailey loved up which might spiral her again so I don’t get why she isn’t looking out for her mental health.

What a great post , you make some really good points.

Now I’m thinking what will happen in the future? Do you think Hailey and her friends will stop with the sly digs now they’ve both come out trying to appear they’re being cordial?

Also, I read before she’s possibly dating Zayn? Is Justin going to have a meltdown or is he over her?

 

[GrilledCheese]

I also want to know why is Hailey still with Justin after the way he treats her. Every relationship has its ups and downs but if your husband was putting you down on livestreams to thousands of people, you'd start to feel a bit tit. And that comment about how he'd have left her if she wasn't hot was so rude. The videos of him shouting at her, punching her etc

As for Selena, she can do better than Zayn. He's cheated on every woman he's dated since he became famous. He's beyond toxic

 

[account70032]

What a great post , you make some really good points.

Now I’m thinking what will happen in the future? Do you think Hailey and her friends will stop with the sly digs now they’ve both come out trying to appear they’re being cordial?

Also, I read before she’s possibly dating Zayn? Is Justin going to have a meltdown or is he over her?

In your posts you made great points too! I think threads like these are good cause we can see different sides to things and see why this situation is so weird and never ending drama between them all when there doesn’t need to be.

Hailey should start being mindful of what she posts. She should just use social media to post things about her skincare or any work she’s trying to promote and photos/videos of people in her life. If I were her I would not post any tiktoks that could come across as being witchy or things on stories that could be misconstrued. She’s 26 she’s not 16 and she’s in the public eye so she should learn to use social media for the right reasons like for business or sharing photos. She should not speak about or refer Selena to anyone cause there’s absolutely no reason for her and her friends to speak about her husbands ex which I’m sure they have after seeing things her friends have posted over the years aswell as Hailey going on that podcast talking about Selena. Hailey is married to him she should be focused on their marriage. I doubt their marriage is as perfect as they make it out to be online cause he seems toxic but that’s for them to deal with. If her friends or people who know her want to say hateful things or throw shade towards Selena then they’re not the kind of people she should want to associate with.

As for Selena I’m sure Justin moving on getting married so fast was painful for her. I know it’s easier said than done to just move on and forget things but so many people go through the same thing and are able to move on. She is 30 she should also know better at her age that certain things she posts, songs she puts out and things she says in interviews are going to lead to speculation , people talking about her and Justin and some people like Hailey will get hated on . If she doesn’t want people associating her with her ex anymore then she needs to be careful with her behaviour and words.

If anyone says anything hateful about her weight I get that would hurt her and she has the right to stick up for herself but sometimes assumptions can be made by her fans or her about something that wasn’t hate towards her at all and sometimes even if something was hate and bitchyness towards her it’s really not worth giving attention and energy to cause if we all spent our time giving attention to every bit of hate it would be never ending. She has a career she’s doing well in so she should not let anything take away from that. No amount of drama is worth getting involved in when she should not want to be associated with the biebers at all. Ignoring them might be hard but it’s the best thing to do. Justin seems like the type of person deep down that doesn’t want Selena to forget about him and get over him so she should not want to give him or Hailey any attention anymore no matter what she needs to rise above drama and move on with her life. Following her ex’s wife I don’t think is the best move for her mentally.

As for Zayn Malik hopefully they are just working on a song together and nothing more. He’s had a lot of issues and yeah people can change but I don’t know if that would be healthy for her to be involved with him.