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whosthischick
New member
Thanks, Zantezoo. I joined SA last year as I lost my job as a covid redundancy. I want to be honest, I don't sleep around, but if I'm honest, I do sort of find (some) older guys attractive, and I will admit I've had a handful of one night stands. So I heard about SA and it seemed to me, if I liked the guy, and we went to some nice places and I went home with something in my purse, was I really doing anything much more wrong than hooking-up with some loser my own age and ending up in the same place, but minus even my taxi fare home? I'm maybe not explaining this very well, I don't mean I do that every weekend, but I hope others can be honest too and know what I mean and not get on at me.
I'd really love to hear from @leavemealone and from the guys @roundnround and @NotPBW and anyone else who's tried it.
Edit and @L84 x
I'd really love to hear from @leavemealone and from the guys @roundnround and @NotPBW and anyone else who's tried it.
Edit and @L84 x
leavemealone
Member
Honestly? I wouldn't recommend it. If I could go back in time and not do it and just suffer being behind with bills all the time, that's the road I would take. It's not only a HUGE waste of time to find a potential match who actually pays what you want (or pays at all, I've had quite a few promise things and then block me after we met), but it's also a dangerous world where you potentially expose yourself to harm in various ways. You could get r*ped, dr*gged, beaten, and of course the very obvious, contract an STD, and you better hope it's not permanent. A lot of people seem to think it's the same as having regular sex except you get paid, but it's really not, I don't know how to describe it but it does feel different. It didn't make me feel happy, or empowered, it just made me paranoid and sick. I'm not as seasoned as these girls, I only did it for a couple of months in 2016, and checking it out now vs back then, the competition has grown MASSIVELY. If I wasn't lucky back then of meeting men who paid (and paid enough), I imagine I'd have zero luck now. Whatever your reason is for trying to join that world, it's not worth it. Save your health and sanity and find other ways of 'making it' in the world.
leavemealone
Member
And to answer this question, yeah you basically have to straight up tell them what you're expecting, possibly in chat before you even meet, otherwise it probably won't happen, they won't do it themselves unless they're seasoned and know how it works. My personal example of this would be my very first meet. He called me to a hotel and I went without even knowing how it all works or without even asking/telling him what I wanted to get paid, it was literally just a few days after I'd made my account. After we were done he gave me an envelope containing £500. I didn't ask for it or tell him how much I wanted, I didn't know how to, but after that I used it as my baseline rate. I'm lucky that my very first meet was with an experienced (in that world) man, otherwise I wouldn't have known what to set my rate as or how to go about asking to get paid. I know you don't want to do PPM but it unfortunately has to start off that way (and 90% of the time stays that way) because there are too many men hoping to get away with lying about providing a proper arrangement.
I did eventually get into an arrangement with two men (you can have as many as possible if you have the time for it), one paid £200 and the other £300 every time I saw them, they weren't rich so they couldn't provide items or experiences, but the money was enough for me. Unfortunately the one who paid less ended up giving me a dangerous strain of HPV. While he was preaching to me about not seeing other men, he was seeing other women and that experience ruined my libido and body for the next three years, and that is what made me stop. I spent thousands getting monitored over three years, and I've now been free of it for two. After I stopped seeing him he messaged me to meet up out of the blue one day and I told him what he'd done to me and asked him to at least reimburse half, he went bonkers and called me every name in the book and refused, so I blocked him. He was super cool too and we got along really well. It taught me a really important lesson that it's the ones closest to you that you shouldn't trust. I'm not saying this will happen to everyone who joins SA, but it is a really important cautionary tale, like the hare and tortoise type of story where there's an important lesson to be learned from all of it.
tyrellsg
Well-known member
That was like an after dark trip advisor review
Sweetsunrise
Member
I joined SA quite a few years ago, when I was about 19. My reasoning was because I liked the thrill of being with someone older, and having intellectual conversations, getting to know businessmen etc. I have money, so that wasn’t my primary motive, but I wanted the lifestyle more than the rest of it. I would never sleep with someone unless there was a real connection and I actually wanted to.
There are a LOT of losers on there who are full of fake promises and never follow up on what they say. They act rich, like they’re going to give you a massive allowance, they ask for nudes, sex etc. You really have to weed these guys out.
I only did it very very briefly because I got into a serious relationship soon after, which I’m still in. But I did meet one man in person. He was very lovely, he said he wanted a connection and someone he could talk to, not someone who was with him just for money. He wouldn’t push me to do anything sexual, but if it happened, it happened. We met up frequently for lunch, dinner, random dates, and each time he would pay for the date and give me money afterwards, about £100 each time in cash.
I broke it off when he told me he was married and had been doing this for many many years with other women before me, behind his wife’s back. He also had a daughter older than me, so that was weird for me. Then I met my boyfriend after, so I put a stop to it all.
I recommend the site, but be prepared to really work to find a diamond in the rough.
Edit: not sure if this helps, but I’ve found the younger you are, the more men are interested. Sounds gross, but my friend was on the site and she’s quite a few years older than me and had no luck at all. But it also depends on much more than that.
There are a LOT of losers on there who are full of fake promises and never follow up on what they say. They act rich, like they’re going to give you a massive allowance, they ask for nudes, sex etc. You really have to weed these guys out.
I only did it very very briefly because I got into a serious relationship soon after, which I’m still in. But I did meet one man in person. He was very lovely, he said he wanted a connection and someone he could talk to, not someone who was with him just for money. He wouldn’t push me to do anything sexual, but if it happened, it happened. We met up frequently for lunch, dinner, random dates, and each time he would pay for the date and give me money afterwards, about £100 each time in cash.
I broke it off when he told me he was married and had been doing this for many many years with other women before me, behind his wife’s back. He also had a daughter older than me, so that was weird for me. Then I met my boyfriend after, so I put a stop to it all.
I recommend the site, but be prepared to really work to find a diamond in the rough.
Edit: not sure if this helps, but I’ve found the younger you are, the more men are interested. Sounds gross, but my friend was on the site and she’s quite a few years older than me and had no luck at all. But it also depends on much more than that.
leavemealone
Member
Yup. Like in my case, I met this one man for lunch in a hotel and then we went up to his room. He claimed to be some big time gems dealer with his own mines and talked about how amazing his last arrangement was and how wonderfully it all worked out (red flag, do NOT believe men who say they had an arrangement where they provided things, 9/10 times it's a straight up lie). I thought the same would happen to me, like we'd get in this arrangement and he'd get me a personal trainer and nose job (what he suggested, I was 19 and naïve I didn't ask him for anything), so I was like ok this is a sweet deal and slept with him. A couple of days later I had some pain in my ear and decided to text him to send me some money to get it checked out, he blocked me. I was confused because I thought we'd gotten into an arrangement and he was supposed to 'take care' of me, plus we'd already slept together, but nope, they'll just butter you up with stories of how successful their last arrangement was, and I bet anything that if I hadn't asked for money he would've continued pretending the personal trainer and nose job were gonna happen while getting to sleep with me for free.
leavemealone
Member
I can bet you anything their rate is not more than £400. There's only so many rich men in the world, and they are all very obviously surrounded by thousands of options to choose from. Only the super scummy men end up on SA, and more often than not are not only cheap but don't even want to do it the way it's supposed to be done, aka they want it for free. You'd have to be really lucky to find someone halfway decent, and it's why all these girls aren't in arrangements and are plain old escorts.
As London's being talked about, if we're meeting there I'll ask the girl if there's somewhere she's always wanted to try but hasn't, and same for choice of restaurant. However, I'll always try to book a table in the hotel restaurant if one's available.
I'll offer to send a car to collect her but most girls make their own way and those that accept will generally only want to be collected from the nearest tube station to the hotel, I assume because they'd prefer to keep their address/area as private as possible.
Depending on how dinner went, sometimes we just go straight to our room. At other times, if that feels 'rushed' then I suggest a drink in the hotel bar. I'll order a bottle of champagne, which will be too much for us to finish so after a glass or so, I'll suggest we have the bottle sent up to our room and finish it there. Sex always follows.
Of course sometimes my gentleman-piece is wasted and I'm with someone who's no stranger to this and doesn't need any nerves allayed, but as I've said before, I enjoy the whole experience, it's my Saturday night, and I don't necessarily just want to spend it all night in the room going at it(!)
For hotel, the most requested choice was the Shard for a while as everyone likes to get that shot standing at the window looking out on the city. However, I don't like the Shard particularly and think it overpriced for what it is, and after getting a stood-up a few times, now tend to use what I call the 'second tier 5 stars' which still have a wow-factor (in my opinion) but are more reasonably priced than the top tier Ritz, Savoy, Dorchester etc. My go-to hotel is Landmark and if that's unavailable then the May Fair which is better placed. I'm not overly entralled with the May Fair's rooms, which are as sparse as Travelodge in my opinion, but the public areas are nice and lively at the weekend and the girls like that, especially if you can book one of their 'VIP' tables. Landmark is better theatre and grander looking, rooms are better, but I have more 'mature' tastes, so could be getting that wrong. The point is, the rooms are much cheaper to the top tier, which I'm not averse to paying as I like those hotels myself, but as your chances of getting a no-show are quite high, it's pointless spending the money on a first get together.
in the summer, the Sunbourne Yacht Hotel is a 4-star down in Docklands which is a good venue. It's been featured on a few reality shows I believe, and again has an Instagrammable feature with its central staircase. It's nice, certainly a lot cheaper than the central hotels, but once you get out of the public areas, the corridors etc are a bit grim I think. The rooms are nice, however, and I always try to book a room facing the water. The restaurant is nice but popular so you can be stuffed if you book on short notice as you may not get a table, and the big draw back to the Sunbourne is that there's nothing really around it. You can get the cable car over to the O2 which has a couple of restaurants as backup if a table isn't available on the yacht. Being in a quiet area is exactly what some girls want and not really an issue if you're only spending one night. You only realise how out of everything you are if you spend more than a day there.
That's largely it in London. Raffles Hotel I see mentioned, I admit I'm not familiar with, but I'm not a Londoner.
CheshireTea
Chatty Member
So you’re expecting the girl to go through with all of this and risk not getting paid at the end? I would no way accept payment at the end. I understand your point completely re them potentially doing a runner but there has to be some compromise surely; most women would want payment upfront from a man they’d never met before surely?
Sweetsunrise
Member
I wasn’t too worried about his wife finding out, he had kept it hidden from her for so long, and I didn’t give him my real name either so I doubt she’d get my details. But a lot of men on there are married so chances are you’d find one that is. The guy I met was actually very nice (aside from being married).
He insisted he would not pay me for the first meeting though, it was just an introduction. and then after that, he would take me on dates and give me £100 after. We met in a public place, at a coffee shop for the first meeting, and just talked, he was very easygoing. I thought I had nothing to lose, and the shop was nearby, so I just went along. Besides, if I didn’t like him, I could just leave, and it was broad daylight in a busy shop on the weekend. We got some inquisitive looks, but I had prepared some lines in my head (“this is my tutor/teacher/lecturer/neighbour”). If was funny when he tried to slip me the cash secretly though
They either say they will pay you at the end of the month, but want to meet right away and have sex. It’s obvious they won’t pay you and they just want to get laid, so don’t fall into that trap. Or they ask for nudes to “check you’re real”. Some men might even go as far to blackmail you, threaten to tell your family, find you on social media and leak your pictures. It’s a very dangerous world so just be prepared.
With regards to asking for money, I would talk for a bit and then say something like “what sort of arrangement are you looking for?” (They usually bring up money then), or “what arrangement have you had in the past?”. Or they asked me that question, and I’d mention an allowance or something
Overnight is what I ask for. If a girl wants £££ for a couple hours, well that's the hooker experience and rates, and that's not what I'm after. It's not worth the journey to me, simply for that.
The girl will usually leave at check out with me after breakfast, and of course being a man, after another morning 'round' or two in bed as well.
I know how that sounds, and Bonnie Bisou will be thinking I really take my pound of flesh, but I want to be honest, and I'm not pretending to be an angel.
So in keeping with honesty, yes, whosthischick, it is usually just one meeting. However, that said, I have a type, and if she checks all my boxes, then I'm going to want to see her again. By type, I don't just mean blonde or brunette or whatever, but a twinkle in her eye and funny. Whilst I appreciate a beautiful woman the same as any other man, the 'ice maiden' performance isn't one that I like to be around for any extended period. I like what I call the 'Goldie Hawn's, the pretty but mischievous types, who are just fun to be around.
Re money, as per leavemealone's experience, I give in a envelope at the end of the date. At the end as I've heard stories of girls getting the money and doing a runner i.e. goes to powder her nose at the bar/restaurant and never returns, or does a runner from the hotel room while you're in the bathroom. The money is cash and £20 notes. £20s for a couple of reasons: 1) It's easier for her to use without questions as to where she's suddenly getting £50 bills from 2) £500 in £20 notes looks way more than in £50 notes, and it's better 'psychologically' for want of a better term, and again, to be honest, it's just better 'theatre'.
Bonnie Bisou
Well-known member
Men that use the likes of Adultwork and Viva street flag up girls that go bareback and won’t use them, it’s frowned upon. Even oral is mostly with a condom. It’s really madness that these young girls are putting themselves at risk like this.
So say you meet for dinner and drinks at 9pm, stay over and leave first thing 9am you’ve gave 12hrs of your time. It’s breaks down to £41 a hour. Think I’d rather provide a well priced hourly service. I understand these men are lonely and like having the company for an evening but I’m there for the cash and £41 an hour just ain’t worth it.
So say you meet for dinner and drinks at 9pm, stay over and leave first thing 9am you’ve gave 12hrs of your time. It’s breaks down to £41 a hour. Think I’d rather provide a well priced hourly service. I understand these men are lonely and like having the company for an evening but I’m there for the cash and £41 an hour just ain’t worth it.
Bonnie Bisou
Well-known member
Wow
no condoms.....we’re you ok with this?£500......I’m pretty shocked at this poor amount considering she has to spend a whole evening with you, possibly overnight.
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I always ask how much she wants. Not so bluntly, I have a way of politely putting it, of course.
A new girl will generally be coy and ask how much I usually offer. In which case, for London I state £500, which 99% of the time is accepted. The most I've paid is £800 but that wasn't typical and to be frank, while the girl was certainly pretty, she wasn't the stunner in her profile pics. Thus I've learned to ignore the profiles with soft-focus, heavy filters, as I just don't know what she really looks like. Likewise those with stars & birds spinning around their head, or dog ears & tongue, that I'm sure many girls think endearing but give no idea of what they look like, are a hard pass too.
In the interests of full disclosure, if the girl asks for less than £500 then I don't argue and offer to bump it up for her.
Overall, I don't generally haggle as I feel if you're going to play SD, then that's the first give away that you're not, and fretting over the difference between £100 or £200 doesn't exactly instil confidence. If she asks for too much (in my opinion) then I just bow out politely at that point, otherwise I agree to whatever she asks for. That isn't all generosity and largess on my part, however, but insurance: I've found if you immediately agree to her 'price' then she's far more likely to show up, rather than leave me stood-up.
But taking £500 as typical for London, then with my travel, hotel, dinner and sundries, a one night date generally costs me in the region of £1k.
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Lovegin
VIP Member
I’m wondering how this is deemed as being acceptable whilst there’s no difference between doing this and picking a man / woman up in a car in soho etc or being part of a potty party in Dubai? Most people look down on sex workers especially prostitutes or as it seems to be only lower class prostitutes that people have a problem with
Maybe it’s the difference in money paid,
Maybe it’s the difference in money paid,
whosthischick
New member
I'm not a teenager anymore haha! Over my 21st birthday but still young enough to qualify as a sugar baby... I hope!
I've only created a profile so far. No pics of me yet. I login and look but haven't taken the plunge properly yet but there are guys I've favourited. Was kind of hoping anyone who has done this could be honest, like safety and anything else I should be aware but I maybe haven't thought of. @leavemealone spoke of being a potnoodle build and that's me so that struck a chord. Funny stories are welcome too, I'm not looking to get scared out of my skin!
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