Seeking Arrangement

[Jmx]

I love this thread too! I think it would be tempting if I was single/ slightly better looking lol.

 

[Pambo]

If you don't mind me asking, @whosthischick, how old are you? I don't mean to sound patronising at all, but I do think it makes a difference between 18, 25 and 30yo etc as to how you can handle things etc (though some girls seem to have lived a life by 22yo that'd have turned me inside out).

Not btw, that age makes you immune to bullshitting players, as God knows I'm testament to - x

 

[Bonnie Bisou]

@leavemealone thank you for explaining your experience....xxx

 

[Bonnie Bisou]

Where are you? Seeking arrangements?

 

[Pambo]

Wow no condoms.....we’re you ok with this?


£500......I’m pretty shocked at this poor amount considering she has to spend a whole evening with you, possibly overnight.

I'm assuming from what @leavemealone said the rate is determined by the market. If the girls all demanded higher the guys would have to pay it, but there's probably a fair bit of undercutting and not all of the girls will be of the same 'quality'. If leavemealone couldn't get higher as a looker then most likely no one else is, and asking for more results in you pricing yourself out and getting nothing, or a reality check at best.

I assume it's much the same with the condoms issue but I'd of thought more girls would be willing to stand firm on that.

@leavemealone, I feel for you. You sound quite bitter about it all now. I picked up on that in the previous threads and that's understandable when you have to read about others in Monaco and Dubai, the apartment and all the shopping extras they got, and comparing it to your own experience. I think girls should have their eyes open and realise your experience is what's to be expected, not the jetset lifestyle.

 

[leavemealone]

That's awful! Was this a nice hotel, like it all looked legit and he was what he said, and looked like he actually had money? Nice watch and clothes etc? I'm just trying to look-out for 'tells'.

And sorry to be personal but did he just suggest going to his room right after lunch? I can see that after dinner but in the afternoon, does that not seem suspect? Not judging, just trying to avoid same mistakes.

It was at a semi-nice hotel, Raffles. It's not Burj Al Arab, but it's still 5 star. He had the clothes and watch, he was in a suit and looked like a proper businessman. And yeah we just went straight up to his room after lunch. It's a pretty big hotel, like the lobby is huge. I didn't care about what people thought of me, so yeah I just followed him up to his room.

 

[whosthischick]

And to answer this question, yeah you basically have to straight up tell them what you're expecting, possibly in chat before you even meet, otherwise it probably won't happen, they won't do it themselves unless they're seasoned and know how it works. My personal example of this would be my very first meet. He called me to a hotel and I went without even knowing how it all works or without even asking/telling him what I wanted to get paid, it was literally just a few days after I'd made my account. After we were done he gave me an envelope containing £500. I didn't ask for it or tell him how much I wanted, I didn't know how to, but after that I used it as my baseline rate. I'm lucky that my very first meet was with an experienced (in that world) man, otherwise I wouldn't have known what to set my rate as or how to go about asking to get paid. I know you don't want to do PPM but it unfortunately has to start off that way (and 90% of the time stays that way) because there are too many men hoping to get away with lying about providing a proper arrangement.

I did eventually get into an arrangement with two men (you can have as many as possible if you have the time for it), one paid £200 and the other £300 every time I saw them, they weren't rich so they couldn't provide items or experiences, but the money was enough for me. Unfortunately the one who paid less ended up giving me a dangerous strain of HPV. While he was preaching to me about not seeing other men, he was seeing other women and that experience ruined my libido and body for the next three years, and that is what made me stop. I spent thousands getting monitored over three years, and I've now been free of it for two. After I stopped seeing him he messaged me to meet up out of the blue one day and I told him what he'd done to me and asked him to at least reimburse half, he went bonkers and called me every name in the book and refused, so I blocked him. He was super cool too and we got along really well. It taught me a really important lesson that it's the ones closest to you that you shouldn't trust. I'm not saying this will happen to everyone who joins SA, but it is a really important cautionary tale, like the hare and tortoise type of story where there's an important lesson to be learned from all of it.

Thanks for your honesty and I have to be honest and say that I didn't think £200 and £300 was what to expect, especially as you said you're a beautiful girl.

Also, I read on a previous thread the sugar daddy guy say condoms weren't all common, I take it that's for real?

 

[leavemealone]

That's interesting. So the guy was bullshitting about an allowance and counting you'd fall for it. I have to echo whothischick and ask if he looked for real or he wasn't counting on your desperation and gullibility to see him through. I mean, please tell me this wasn't a Travelodge or Premier Inn you ended up in?

Yup. And no it was at a 5 star hotel and he was dressed to fit the part, that's why I overlooked the red flags.

Thanks for your honesty and I have to be honest and say that I didn't think £200 and £300 was what to expect, especially as you said you're a beautiful girl.

Also, I read on a previous thread the sugar daddy guy say condoms weren't all common, I take it that's for real?

£300 is like, the most common rate. I accepted £200 because we got along and I hated the men I had slept with up until that point, so I didn't mind that it was significantly lower. And yeah, most don't use condoms. The only ones who did were the ones strictly looking to meet for 2-3 hours and made it clear that's all they wanted.

Did you not find the men attractive or is that me being naive and you get nowhere thinking like that (but so long as they're nice).

Sorry I didn't see this before. Most of the men are not attractive.

 

[whosthischick]

Where are you? Seeking arrangements?

Yes, I'm on SA. Are there better ones?

 

[whosthischick]

I can bet you anything their rate is not more than £400. There's only so many rich men in the world, and they are all very obviously surrounded by thousands of options to choose from. Only the super scummy men end up on SA, and more often than not are not only cheap but don't even want to do it the way it's supposed to be done, aka they want it for free. You'd have to be really lucky to find someone halfway decent, and it's why all these girls aren't in arrangements and are plain old escorts.

That's depressing

 

[Pambo]

My go-to hotel is Landmark and if that's unavailable then the May Fair which is better placed.

I'd a look at your love-nests and found this clip of the Landmark. Check out the couple at the 2min mark and then followed to the elevator. That looks to me like a little tryst going on right there with an escort Hope his wife doesn't see that as I don't think he was expecting to get recorded and posted on YouTube! It does look a nice hotel, though, I have to admit.

Q: Do you just get a regular room in these places, give any additional frills at all, like shopping or holidays?

 

[NotPBW]

I can bet you anything their rate is not more than £400. There's only so many rich men in the world, and they are all very obviously surrounded by thousands of options to choose from. Only the super scummy men end up on SA, and more often than not are not only cheap but don't even want to do it the way it's supposed to be done, aka they want it for free. You'd have to be really lucky to find someone halfway decent, and it's why all these girls aren't in arrangements and are plain old escorts.

I'll echo the above, because as I've said before, the sort of arrangement that she-we-cannot-mention enjoyed is exceptionally rare. From what I've heard, finding a regular guy, providing a not-insulting PPM, is hard enough, never mind one who provides a PPM with extras like the lifestyle aspect and other trimmings. What most girls get offered is the opportunity to get pounded in a Travelodge for a few hours for a couple hundred quid.

Not that I'm a saint, as I'm a PPM man as well (unless some girl just really does it for me), but in my defence I try to keep it civilised (for what that's worth).

 

[Bonnie Bisou]

@NotPBW
Do you use protection or go bareback?

 

[Moonbaby09]

As London's being talked about, if we're meeting there I'll ask the girl if there's somewhere she's always wanted to try but hasn't, and same for choice of restaurant. However, I'll always try to book a table in the hotel restaurant if one's available.

I'll offer to send a car to collect her but most girls make their own way and those that accept will generally only want to be collected from the nearest tube station to the hotel, I assume because they'd prefer to keep their address/area as private as possible.

Depending on how dinner went, sometimes we just go straight to our room. At other times, if that feels 'rushed' then I suggest a drink in the hotel bar. I'll order a bottle of champagne, which will be too much for us to finish so after a glass or so, I'll suggest we have the bottle sent up to our room and finish it there. Sex always follows.

Of course sometimes my gentleman-piece is wasted and I'm with someone who's no stranger to this and doesn't need any nerves allayed, but as I've said before, I enjoy the whole experience, it's my Saturday night, and I don't necessarily just want to spend it all night in the room going at it(!)

For hotel, the most requested choice was the Shard for a while as everyone likes to get that shot standing at the window looking out on the city. However, I don't like the Shard particularly and think it overpriced for what it is, and after getting a stood-up a few times, now tend to use what I call the 'second tier 5 stars' which still have a wow-factor (in my opinion) but are more reasonably priced than the top tier Ritz, Savoy, Dorchester etc. My go-to hotel is Landmark and if that's unavailable then the May Fair which is better placed. I'm not overly entralled with the May Fair's rooms, which are as sparse as Travelodge in my opinion, but the public areas are nice and lively at the weekend and the girls like that, especially if you can book one of their 'VIP' tables. Landmark is better theatre and grander looking, rooms are better, but I have more 'mature' tastes, so could be getting that wrong. The point is, the rooms are much cheaper to the top tier, which I'm not averse to paying as I like those hotels myself, but as your chances of getting a no-show are quite high, it's pointless spending the money on a first get together.

in the summer, the Sunbourne Yacht Hotel is a 4-star down in Docklands which is a good venue. It's been featured on a few reality shows I believe, and again has an Instagrammable feature with its central staircase. It's nice, certainly a lot cheaper than the central hotels, but once you get out of the public areas, the corridors etc are a bit grim I think. The rooms are nice, however, and I always try to book a room facing the water. The restaurant is nice but popular so you can be stuffed if you book on short notice as you may not get a table, and the big draw back to the Sunbourne is that there's nothing really around it. You can get the cable car over to the O2 which has a couple of restaurants as backup if a table isn't available on the yacht. Being in a quiet area is exactly what some girls want and not really an issue if you're only spending one night. You only realise how out of everything you are if you spend more than a day there.

That's largely it in London. Raffles Hotel I see mentioned, I admit I'm not familiar with, but I'm not a Londoner.

Hahaha I always get these vibes in the Mayfair bar when I’m there guys always looking

 

[whosthischick]

That's another question I have, are these dates expected to be overnights usually?

@NotPBW when do you give the girl the money? Do you see each other again or is it just one night usually and that's it?

 

[L84]

Absolutely no judgment from me! Your points are valid and I agree. However, it’s just not that easy to get a good arrangement IMO which is why I say it’s a waste of time

 

[Bonnie Bisou]

@whosthatchick

From my previous post

 

[Pambo]

@NotPBW how much do you give the girls/spend on a typical date?

 

[whosthischick]

What would you like to know?

What do you do for a typical date? Is sex always involved?

Yup. Like in my case, I met this one man for lunch in a hotel and then we went up to his room. He pretended to be some big time gems dealer with his own mines and talked about how amazing his last arrangement was and how wonderfully it all worked out (red flag, do NOT believe men who say they had an arrangement where they provided things, 9/10 times it's a straight up lie). I thought the same would happen to me, like we'd get in this arrangement and he'd get me a personal trainer and nose job (what he suggested, I was 19 and naïve I didn't ask him for anything), so I was like ok this is a sweet deal and slept with him. A couple of days later I had some pain in my ear and decided to text him to send me some money to get it checked out, he blocked me. I was confused because I thought we'd gotten into an arrangement and he was supposed to 'take care' of me, plus we'd already slept together, but nope, they'll just butter you up with stories of how successful their last arrangement was, and I bet anything that if I hadn't asked for money he would've continued pretending the personal trainer and nose job were gonna happen while getting to sleep with me for free.

That's awful! Was this a nice hotel, like it all looked legit and he was what he said, and looked like he actually had money? Nice watch and clothes etc? I'm just trying to look-out for 'tells'.

And sorry to be personal but did he just suggest going to his room right after lunch? I can see that after dinner but in the afternoon, does that not seem suspect? Not judging, just trying to avoid same mistakes.

 

[NotPBW]

Thanks, Zantezoo. I joined SA last year as I lost my job as a covid redundancy. I want to be honest, I don't sleep around, but if I'm honest, I do sort of find (some) older guys attractive, and I will admit I've had a handful of one night stands. So I heard about SA and it seemed to me, if I liked the guy, and we went to some nice places and I went home with something in my purse, was I really doing anything much more wrong than hooking-up with some loser my own age and ending up in the same place, but minus even my taxi fare home? I'm maybe not explaining this very well, I don't mean I do that every weekend, but I hope others can be honest too and know what I mean and not get on at me.

I'd really love to hear from @leavemealone and from the guys @roundnround and @NotPBW and anyone else who's tried it.

Edit and @L84 x

What would you like to know?