The article says between 13 and 16 and if it went on for 3 years he will have been underage for all that period, otherwise why would the prolonged period matter?
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oh you mean the bit that GrunkaLunka quoted, I read that different as not being his definite age but going by the known facts which are Teenager Under 16. Which could be 13 or could be 15. The prolonged period matters because the age of consent was 18.
So if he was 13 or 15 he'd still be under age for the whole period
Which is very possible and common when trauma is involved....
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I was abused when I was very young and didn't properly remember/understand it until I was in my 30s.
I think that's one of the first articles to have worded it like that. Other's have just said under 16 or said he could have been aged between 13 and 16 which I assumed was simply because under 13 is a different category within the same section and would be worded as a child under 13.
It could simply be a coincidence that both ages and time period are three years but it has made me wonder.
They were also still in touch for several years after that period of time (but prior to the initial allegation being made).
I've found the way it has all been reported to be a bit all over the place. Almost like reporters are playing catch up and putting the pieces together as they go. Similar reports in the past, about other people, have seemed better planned, in that they've got all of the information before they go to print.
I really feel for the poor man at the heart of this. He's probably feeling like his identity could be revealed at any point. He might be married with a family and worried about the impact on them.
I've tried to keep in mind that Mills might not be guilty of anything, particularly given the pressures of any investigations during that period of time but it's quite difficult to maintain that in the face of the allegations that were made and the fact a file was sent to the CPS.
So, if say it was 15 to 18, it's conceivable Mills told the BBC it had been an 18 year old. As discussed earlier in the thread, they'd have had more sympathy with that given in the inequality of the age of consent at the time.
Just thinking out loud. There are so few facts available the media are just making trifle out of Weetabix,I think.
Okay OllyThe rumour couldn’t be further from the truth
Emile and Mikey started the band with someone else and the story is either he asked to be in the band and they agreed or they heard him sing in the shower and decided it was a great fit. They were originally a five piece but two members left. If you watch the early interviews they were all asked questions and gelled well together then as time went on they would be ignored or Olly would be the one who answered as if he was the lead and they were just session musicians.
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What were they doing in the shower with him?!
So his dreadful Eurovision performance was a sweet nod to that time then ?Okay Olly
Emile and Mikey started the band with someone else and the story is either he asked to be in the band and they agreed or they heard him sing in the shower and decided it was a great fit. They were originally a five piece but two members left. If you watch the early interviews they were all asked questions and gelled well together then as time went on they would be ignored or Olly would be the one who answered as if he was the lead and they were just session musicians.
Why are posters going on about a band that has nothing to do with the subject of the thread??
Olly Alexander and RTD ffs??
Olly Alexander and RTD ffs??
Really doesn’t matter if the person ended up as 18, if Scott has/had done something illegal the bbc can/should have got rid of him. It’s started as under 16 so regardless if when the last offence took place the victim was 18, the bbc have a higher moral duty (imo). It might not be perceived as fair but unfortunately in some professions you aren’t judged in that way. If you’re a bbc presenter and you have a sexual offence with someone who is under 16 you’ve got a screw loose, regardless of the stories of people on this thread saying they lied about their age. You unfortunately have to tread so careful in some professions
I wasn’t saying that to suggest it absolved Mills. Quite the opposite. If someone who is accussed of CSA is contacted by their alleged victim, a responsible and innocent person would hand any communications to the police, block them and ignore.Mills should have known far better that to keep up the relationship.
I mean that I suspect he told the BBC the individual was 18 and didn't mention this had started 3 years previous. (This is all supposition obviously)
There's no new information within that paragraph, she's just reworded the statement provided by the Met. Katie Hind talks a load of rubbish. Every 'exclusive scoop' I've read from her is a load of rehashed old information, inaccuracies and generic sounding quotes from anonymous friends.
Tabloids should hopefully soon be a thing of the past. There needs to be a service that shows anything new. Then no need to read articles that are adding nothing new or spew out 1000 words with 50 pictures that can be distilled into 5 words.
It won't be any great loss as tabloids like the guardian and daily mail have next to no journalism for 99% of their output. As shown perfectly with their articles on tattle which could be summed up as "influencers claim x about tattle, no evidence exists".
The Guardian isn't a tabloid
It's been printed as a tabloid since 2018. Id say their content these days is also tabloid rather than broadsheet.The Guardian isn't a tabloid
Their articles on tattle have been so shallow and lacking in any evidence or research; they're definitely the output of a tabloid.
It's not far off nowadays; it bears little resemblance to the high-quality news source it was a couple of decades ago.The Guardian isn't a tabloid
My personal view is that any organization prepared to pay for, and publish, the opinions of Owen Jones is a risible rag, but I do concede that there may be some people out there who are keen to read his thoughts on important matters.
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Marina was a Sun Journalist.
It is nowThe Guardian isn't a tabloid
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