Scott Mills

[ButtonDownTheHutches]

Making out there is a massive age gap when it isn't, means attention won't be given to it when it happens. I don't know how else to say it

Attention won't be given to what when what happens?

Are you drawing a correlation between the impact of sexual assault and the 'massiveness' (or otherwise) of the age gap between victim & perpetrator?

 

[GingerJones50]

I meant that talking about a 15/24 incident as a 15/50 incident would undermine any new victims that came forward that actually had a 15/50 incident

It doesn’t seem there are any other victims. The article that was written at the time said police thought they had identified other potential victims (possibly from information given by the person who made the first allegation), but it seems nothing was turned up in that investigation and there is only one person making allegations.

 

[Bread]

You've literally proved my point.

What was he point?

So the boy has grown up now. He was a boy once. That was when the offence(s) occurred (allegedly). If he had been a 40 year old man, as he is now, he wouldn't have been under 16 - a boy - when the offences took place.

Does that make sense?

Re offence(s): would it be offences if it were one individual on more than one occasion, or individual offences against several people?

The Daily Record says this:
Further complications emerged in May 2025 when a former presenter contacted the BBC regarding alleged “inappropriate communications” involving Mills.

I haven't read anything about that elsewhere. Unless they are talking about Brees still, who used to work there and made the report about Mills last year (I think!).

 

[Nelly's mum]

Do you know what you're replying to? The whole discussion is because i didn't think it was right to keep refering to the victim as a boy, when the victim and SM are both 40+

You are not explaining what you mean very clearly so it is difficult to understand what your point is - we know SM was, I think, 23/24 and the boy was under 16 at the time and that allegations span 3yrs

 

[WhyYouCry?]

You are not explaining what you mean very clearly so it is difficult to understand what your point is - we know SM was, I think, 23/24 and the boy was under 16 at the time and that allegations span 3yrs

I think that poster is trying to say that it was less serious because SM was ‘only’ around 22/23 when he allegedly sexually assaulted a boy under 16 then it would be if he’d sexually assaulted him aged 50. Except it doesn’t make any sense because no one had referred to the age gap, just the fact that the victim was a ‘boy’, which he was.

 

[WhyYouCry?]

Do you know what you're replying to? The whole discussion is because i didn't think it was right to keep refering to the victim as a boy, when the victim and SM are both 40+

But if we referred to the victim as a man, surely that would take away from the fact that he was a child when the alleged sexual assaults occurred?

 

[pixxyy]

The part they put " means attention won't be given to it when it happens. " when talking about the age gap being bigger 15/50 compared to 15/24

To me i'd assume the opposite would happen and there'd be more attention/comments if the gap was bigger


We can only talk about this alleged crime against a Child though, instead of a more recent victim who might not exist

 

[SaLou]

The victim was a boy but I agree it's odd to call the person he is now a boy. I think everyone is aware he wasn’t a man when the alleged crimes were committed.

 

[Nelly's mum]

I think that poster is trying to say that it was less serious because SM was ‘only’ around 22/23 when he allegedly sexually assaulted a boy under 16 then it would be if he’d sexually assaulted him aged 50. Except it doesn’t make any sense because no one had referred to the age gap, just the fact that the victim was a ‘boy’, which he was.

Yes, presumably, but I would disagree with that - why would it be less serious for an under 16 to be SAd by someone who is 24 than someone who is 50? Why would that be?
Depending on the dynamics it could be more serious, who's to say - they are both equally serious imo.

 

[Happy Alpaca]

Could it be that there is an NDA in place, would that even be possible?

It was all very dodgy Phil S funding Matt Ms solicitors, and wasn't there an NDA in place there?

Sorry the details are a bit foggy in my memory.....

 

[N0s3yr0s3y]

SM must’ve been horrified but then relieved in 2016/19.

It’s curious where the allleged incidents took place, Hampshire and IOW are mentioned. Scott is from Southampton. IOW doesn’t have a massive gay scene. I wonder how they met, perhaps a Heart FM Event.

I live in Hants, Hampshire & IOW is just the name of the constabulary. I’ve never until now considered why this is a thing & IOW don’t have their own?

 

[TwooTwooTwitTwitTwoo]

Could it be that there is an NDA in place, would that even be possible?

It was all very dodgy Phil S funding Matt Ms solicitors, and wasn't there an NDA in place there?

Sorry the details are a bit foggy in my memory.....

I'm sure I read somewhere that non-disclosure agreements don't cover criminal offences.

 

[WhyYouCry?]

Yes, presumably, but I would disagree with that - why would it be less serious for an under 16 to be SAd by someone who is 24 than someone who is 50? Why would that be?
Depending on the dynamics it could be more serious, who's to say - they are both equally serious imo.

Yes I disagree too.

 

[HotesTilaire]

I'm sure I read somewhere that non-disclosure agreements don't cover criminal offences.

They don’t but it didn’t stop people using them in that way for decades.

It just means if you break the NDA to disclose it was covering up a crime, you can’t be sued for a breach.

 

[Happy Alpaca]

I'm sure I read somewhere that non-disclosure agreements don't cover criminal offences.

That's what I heard too,
I mentioned Phil S, as I'm not clear enough on what the NDA he had over Matt was, or was it just a rumour that there was one in place.....

I'm just wondering, could there be something similar in place here, and that's what was found out.

Just speculation re the second bit, and genuine interest re the NDAs in general. They've always confused me somewhat, when used to silence people.....

 

[kokomonroe]

Whoever said the industry is rife with this is absolutely correct. I used to hang around with a group that included prominent gay men in the theatre industry and there were always loads of very young guys just hanging around, who’d get taken on foreign holidays and stuff and every now and then one of them withdrew suddenly see his career explode. This was all men over 18 but still sleazy.

And with Spacey the issue wasn’t him dating inappropriately young guys, he was known to be physically violent and abusive. He seriously sexually harassed several of my friends and I absolutely believe the rumours that he outright grape young men.

Spacey I heard allegedly got thrown off epstein island due to his violent behaviour. I mentioned it in the secret celeb chat a few years ago. And got slated. I am glad that people are aware of just how sick and sadistic spacey was and most probably still is

 

[HotesTilaire]

That's what I heard too,
I mentioned Phil S, as I'm not clear enough on what the NDA he had over Matt was, or was it just a rumour that there was one in place.....

I'm just wondering, could there be something similar in place here, and that's what was found out.

Just speculation re the second bit, and genuine interest re the NDAs in general. They've always confused me somewhat, when used to silence people.....

I think Pip’s argument would be it’s not to cover a crime, because he didn’t do anything illegal - it was “unwise”.

Back in the day you could get £20k for selling a story if you’d shagged a celeb. There will be a lot of NDA’s given out just to stop people selling a story or telling everyone about kinks and stuff.

 

[DoreenMachine]

Some people on this thread seem frustrated by the lack of facts and info that has been released and are now splitting hairs regarding definitions and terminology when really there's no need to.

It's quite clear that an individual under the age of 16 would be referred to as a boy when speaking about a historic assault, as he's being discussed in the past tense. If we're talking about the victim currently then obviously man would be used to describe him.

It's really not that difficult to comprehend

 

[shellie]

He seems to think he is some groundbreaking artiste, but he just screams musical theatre school pick me, he comes across as so desperate.

He did a programme for the BBC about 'growing up gay' interviewing some people who for various reasons really struggled coming out etc, and the whole thing was just cringe af. It ended up being mostly him whining about his own experiences, he seems very self obsessed.

His solo career hasn't exactly been a success, it's clear most of the talent in Years and Years came from the other band mates, I imagine they got tired of his schtick.

I used to be a fan of Years & Years and still listen to their first album but the two after that....he might have a decent voice but it's clear he needed the others as the last album which was all him flopped big time.

 

[Merpedy]

Surprising how many people I have seen subtly or not so subtly try and reason around alleged sexual offences against an under 16 yo

From lying about your age to the age gap not being that big... are we alright?