Cold Blood? He’s a great actor, loved him in Benidorm too.
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How do you know it’s an extreme sacking when you are not privy to the information the BBC had recently? Tim Davie is saying the new information made it clear what decision they had to make.
Arrests and charges are not the only basis in which one can lose their job.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy01wd437x2o
That's a fair question that hadn't crossed my mind but a bbc did have this that says allegations plural.
So if the bbc are now saying they've only just found out the alleged victim was under 16, what did they think sm was being investigated for? It doesn't make sense. Although that's usually the case with the bbc.
He was investigated for serious sexual assault, which can be committed against people of any age! It just happens that his alleged victim was also under 16.
How has Elaine Paige survived so long? She sounds as pissed as a fart on her musical show, me and hubby joke you can almost hear the glasses chinking as she presents. i switch off when she comes on
If he was investigated as part of Winter Key, my understanding is that this was an investigation into childhood sexual abuse...... so it would seem the BBC would have known the alleged victim was under 18....
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Yes, I think it was the under 16 part they are claiming not to have known about.
From previous posts and dates, I was just highlighting that the BBC always seemingly knew it was someone under 18, which was below the age of consent at the time. So their current argument about only recently finding out the alleged victim was under 16, doesn't hold much weight imo.
Would the BBC know that he was investigated part of Winter Key specifically?
I'm probably putting this badly, but it comes across as the bbc were ok with the serious sexual assault bit, just not the underage bit.
I’m behind and caching up so sorry if this has been said, but I haven’t seen anywhere else that the original report to police was made by a third party. I had assumed it was by the alleged victim.
Regardless of SM, if the BBC knew of the investigation surely they would have (and should have) made it their business to know the full details about one of their employees. I reckon they must have known that this related to someone who was underage!
I think this goes into that slippery slope discussion though which is something most people didn’t seem comfortable about when the story first came out
Third party could also explain the original case 2016-2019 not having enough evidence, Also BBC saying new information has come to light & they are in contact with the alleged victim. Maybe he's now feeling able to talk about what happened
That's really the only way it makes sense.
Yes, if the young person didn’t / wouldn’t / couldn’t engage with the original police investigation - for whatever reason - that could seriously diminish the weight of the case.
So maybe someone else came forward to tell the police. Wasn’t enough to go on so the police dropped it. And then recently (following the Huw Edwards docudrama?) the alleged victim came forward.
***This is all speculation and I have no way of knowing if this is true for the avoidance of doubt***
***This is all speculation and I have no way of knowing if this is true for the avoidance of doubt***
I work in the industry and there is a huge culture of older gay guys with a penchant for very young twinks. When I was acting in the 00s it was a lot more brazen (“Kevin will love you” - said to a tiny 17 year old ballet dancer) and in recent years, more covert, but still very much alive and kicking (as we saw with Schofield). People dare not talk about it for fear of being branded homophobic. The younger looking and prettier the better. I’ve seen so much of it that I won’t allow my very pretty son to persue a career in dance, music, acting etc. It can be relentless, and I know of guys who are now married to women who did things with older guys in training or at the start of their careers as they were groomed into feeling obligated to. I am much more concerned about my son with SA than my daughter. We don’t talk enough about male victims as they are perceived as being more “up for it” and to criticise the twink culture is risky ground for being labelled homophobic. This is coming from someone who trained in musical theatre and has many amazing gay mates, it’s just one of the darker sides of gay culture that’s not spoken about enough IMO.
But they didn't drop it - the CPS declined to take it forwards.
I think we've covered that the age of gay consent was lowered to 16 in 2000. So that would mean if the victim were under 18 they would not be considered underage.
What is a twink? Because I thought it was a very young, barely legal, "pretty boy"? That post is interesting because I wondered about a fear of being seen as homophobic on the Huw Edwards thread.
I think we've covered that the age of gay consent was lowered to 16 in 2000. So that would mean if the victim were under 18 they would not be considered underage.
What is a twink? Because I thought it was a very young, barely legal, "pretty boy"? That post is interesting because I wondered about a fear of being seen as homophobic on the Huw Edwards thread.
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