Agree I turn off when she’s in for Jeremy. I often got the vibe she didn’t enjoy being on the breakfast show with Scott. But who would with Ellie there 🫢
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No; it just makes you examine your former life and wonder who might come out and say things about you. I surely can't be the only person who wonders what damage could be wreaked by a former partner or whatever.
I was at a uni house party and wound up getting off with a boy who I was told the next day was 15. I was horrified. It had never occurred to me a child would be at uni party and I also was livid with not being told at the time. I'm female and was 19. I know it's not the same thing as what we're talking about here but remembering it makes me feel quite ill.
A lot of people are coming out in his support or making silent indications they’re not happy about the situation. And these are people who know more about what happened than we do. If it is because the person who made the allegations contacted him years later and Mills told him to duck off and they’re classing that as harassment, it doesn’t appear seem a bit unfair.
The BBC needs to make sure they’re not creating another Carl Beech situation instead of a Huw Edwards. With the Carl Beech situation a lot of people including MPs made a knee jerk reaction that because someone had made an allegation it must be true, repeated allegations against people and put then through the mill snd it turned out not to be true.
The BBC needs to make sure they’re not creating another Carl Beech situation instead of a Huw Edwards. With the Carl Beech situation a lot of people including MPs made a knee jerk reaction that because someone had made an allegation it must be true, repeated allegations against people and put then through the mill snd it turned out not to be true.
I think so too. I think they’ve seen the BBC sacking several presenters over the last few years, felt aggrieved that SM had ‘got away with it’, possibly tried to contact the BBC but got nowhere (hence the BBC ‘apology’ yesterday that they’d known about this issue for some time), and took it to the Mirror along with evidence that wasn’t part of/wasn’t available at the time of the original police investigation.
I wonder if the ‘new’ evidence will be deemed substantial enough for the police to take further action? Wasn’t it said that the CPS view first time around was that there wasn’t sufficient evidence to proceed at the time?
Possibly because that was current and Edwards was 105 rather than this being decades ago with Scott being in his early 20s. Also I think there were several of us who were pointing out that the HE situation was grim but not illegal, and was consensual according to the young man. So HE hadn't done anything illegal as far as we knew then.
The BBC are under constant attack whatever they do so it makes sense that they would fire him so quickly, and now they're being attacked for that.
Honestly no, I don’t think there’s anything a former partner could say about me that could get me sacked or questioned by the police.
I can’t read this though can see the comments claiming she was off for school holidays and had a cold. Hmm Clare stood in last minute and confirmed that on Instagram around the same time Scott went off. Maybe it is a coincidence but Tina has stayed quiet on Instagram too. I agree she used to join in with the banter on the show but at times I felt she was uncomfortable too. I liked the show but at times Scott liked it known it was his show and they were beneath him
He speaks a lot of sense.
Why have they messed up? Lots of employers only do a DBS at the recruitment stage, if at all. It depends what his role was categorised as.
Is there a legal requirement that they didn't fulfil?
Lots of systems are outdated, I'm not saying they are right, but maybe they just ticked the minimum amount of boxes they needed to tick.
It's a wider discussion to be had around what should have been in place vs what is or was...
It wouldn’t even have gone to the CPS. You have to be arrested and charged for charges to go to the CPS. The police didn’t even feel there was enough evidence to arrest him, let alone charge him. It’s absolute rubbish to say that there must have been loads of evidence but the CPS nixed it because it never even got as far as the CPS.
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'80's too, SM is of that era too. Same age as me. Gen X.
Seriously it does happen alas. I am one to think there are a lot of people out there shitting themselves because they cant remember what they did when they were drunk/caned. It actually happened to me a couple of years ago. My ex is booze allergic to one particular type of alcohol. Turns quick. Doesnt remember a thing about his bad behaviour the next day. There's a reason he is now an ex, it happened rarely but I just couldnt deal with his sweet face the next day but being afeared of the foulness he could spout after that tipple. He doesnt remember a thing, you can see it in his eyes, not a thing but he knows that he cant remember. There's a shedload of people from SM's generation who were so very very off their bits on pills and powder in late 80's early 90's rave scene they wont always remember what they did. I know because I was there, not off my bits, watching them.
I'm a 70's kid so the '80's were my teen years. It was quite awful how many men would follow you home from school, or to the shops etc let alone older men taking advantage. No mobiles, no texts, only 4 channels on the telly and one of them had james savile on every week. I had a number of older boyfriends and to this day I am confused why my parents didn't protect me more. My male gay friends had a very challenging time indeed and I know very well from drunk chatters that there will be increasing issues for others in the future about chem sex parties. Bless those not alive to tell more.
And yes, someone mentioned Boy George, wtf is he still on the box? Nasty violent man.
That Ellie one is quite annoying eh? I can't put my finger on why though, it's like she's trying too hard? Idk.
But there are vindictive guys out there, I dated a guy who turned out to have a gambling addiction, he took me for a ride financially and ended up stealing money from me and when I threatened him with the police, he told me he would go to social services and report me for drug taking with my child at home and other really vile false allegations, at the time my son was 3 and I was a lone parent and terrified at the prospect of social services come to my door even though I had done nothing wrong than catch him stealing and realise he was taking me for a ride. He convinced me that he would make them believe I was up to no good. I was also in my probationary period at work and he threatened to contact them. I couldn't take the risk of a false allegation imploding my life. I let it go. I was distraught after and ended up off sick from work. The tears one day would not stop streaming down my face when I was sitting at my desk and they weren't really interested in supporting someone who was not under contract at the time and let me go (I understand I was a bleeping mess). I know this is slightly different to what the OP was saying but I have learned not to trust anyone and have been single since and don't see me ever being able to trust someone. False allegations are a thing and unfortunately mud can and does stick,
I don't at this stage feel one way or another about Scott Mills, until further info comes out I will be reserving judgement.
Yes, obviously people can (and do) lie, and that’s always a risk. I just meant that I have no concerns about my own past behaviour in relationships.
Teenager in the 80s too and back then out in the town drinking, no ID required, looking over 18 but around 16. I think with girls we can look much older and who are older men to question it though I know people are much more wary these days. I knew of two girls my age who were considered slappers back then but they thought it was cool to sleep with much older men who were aware of their ages, one of whom was a father himself. Now I look back and think shame on the men for taking advantage of clearly vulnerable girls who were under 16 at the time. How could a father do this to a young girl when he had a daughter too?
Nor me, but more recently I have realised that a lot of behaviour I put up with from men, when I was younger, were definitely not okay.
I have no concerns either about my personal behaviour but anyone can make a false allegation and the police have a duty to investigate one way or another.
I wasn't thinking about anything that could get me sacked or questioned unless you count the thing in the spoiler... But stuff I've said, messages I've sent... I'm thinking more if I got famous and what someone hungry for money could use.
I don't think there's anything - even if I sent pictures of my body they never had my face in! - but it makes you think.
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